Obama Admin being sued....
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I hope this doesn't just go away. Unless he and his administration is held accountable this shit will never end.
Godfather.
We're still here. And we still think, as you do... that War is not the answer and that we need to quit meddling in Middle Eastern Affairs.
Hail, Hail!!!
So... you didn't have a problem with Gaddamffy machine gunning the protestors from helicopters and us... doing nothing, right?
Because as I recall... the very same lawmakers were saying that WE need to do somthing to stop him.
So... what's the deal? Let the machine gunning continue or do something to stop it? Can't do both, you know.
Hail, Hail!!!
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
they want to have a revolution they should fucking REBEL and win it themselves. if they are not strong enough to do it themselves then guess what, it is not the time to be starting a revolution if you can't legitimately win it. don't start shit and beg for the rest of the world to have your back.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/26/kucinich-vs-the-olive/
I'm not sticking up for Ghadaffi but I know many of the reports are not accurate. No matter how awful he is and how many awful things he's done the some of the reports are just absurd and blatantly wrong trying to vilify him further to support more warring and more killing.
The United States needs to be much more passive in foreign affairs. I'm tired of paying taxes to such an aggressive killing machine.
That is the SAME position I am taking. If Civil War in in Libya's future, who the hell do we think we are? Why do WE have a say in THEIR outcome.
I remember those asshole Republican Representative douches and FOX News calling for 'intervention' from the 'Spectator in Chief' and thinking... 'What Fucking Assholes'. Don't they remember what happened in Iraq... not the fucking long ago? Where I also believed... if Civil War was in Iraq's future... and THEY wanted to oust Saddam Hussein... that's their gig.
If our NATO Allies want to do something and ask for our help... fine. We'll kick in the air cover, but that's it.
America sucks at nation building. We have the track record to prove it.
Hail, Hail!!!
I am as anti-war as anyone, but I hate when we ignore people for the simple fact that they are not us. Where do we draw the lines? I'd like to think we are all humans in this and wether it's your next door neighbor, or your neighbor 10,000 miles away, there's someone who will take a stand..
I don't know, just my thought. I really don't like spending my tax dollars on this stuff as much as anyone. And I hate that we pick and choose our battles too.
I don't think there is a right answer for this. I see reasons on both sides of the issue. I guess that's life though.
It would be nice if we all co-existed without government or authority, but people like to take advantage of others sadly. It's in our nature.
Yes... it was France. And look how grateful us free Americans are of France.
And, as you say... it all depends.
What if a revolution in England began and sought the complete dissolution of its useless monarchy and overthrow their government. The Queen's defense of Buckingham calls for guards and air support to open fire on people as the gates are breached.
Who's side would we be on? The side of the England's Established leadership... or the civilians looking to take rule of their country?
We already have an established alliance with England... but, to the extent that we let them slaughter their own people?
Should we even choose a side?
Hail, Hail!!!
"With our thoughts we make the world"
you elected a guy who is sending American Forces into a Muslim, Middle-Eastern nation for the purpose of regime change.
Thanks alot. You are not only as bad as anyone who elected Bush..... you are worse.
Own it.
There's still some other thing that need to happen, in order to catch up to you.
The U.S. goal of ousting Gaddamnffy still needs to:
A. Attack Zimbabwe, instead of focusing on Libya.
B. Completely bomb the shit out of Zimbabwe
C. Occupy Zimbabwe with a military run governing body
D. Turn over the government to some nimrod that hates us, but love the money we are giving him
E. Never leave Zimbabwe.
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After that happens... i'll own it.
Hail, Hail!!!
you might want to check your facts before you attack me...
what regime change are we trying to make???? libya is in a civil war. they tried to overthrow their leader and they are failing miserably on their own. we sent planes, not troops on the ground and i am fucking pissed about getting involved there...
so let me see here.....
obama did not send troops into libya. obama did not start the wars with iraq and afghanistan and nearly pick a fight with iran.... so yeah believe whatever you want but those are the facts...
i voted for obama for several reasons. mainly to change our foreign policy towards the israeli palestinian conflict, which has not happened...and i voted for him to end the wars. we are withdrawing from iraq right now and are drawing up plans to get out of afghanistan now. and obama got bin laden, who was the instigator of the afghanistan war and inspiration for the "war on turrr" , and bin laden by the way had nothing to do with our detour into iraq. that was all bush's choosing...but nonetheless, getting bin laden has made us begin to discuss accellerating our exodus from afghanistan so is that a bad thing?? what more do you want???
i did not vote for obama to be attacking pakistan and libya and i am not excusing him for doing so. if you would look at my posts you would see that i am very critical of obama and his foreign policy especially with his use of drones in those countries. you have not been around long enough to know that, and i am sure you have not searched my posts, so i forgive you for your ignorant assumptions..
obama has done some good things and he has done a lot of things to piss me off severely, but for you to say i am worse than those who voted for bush is absolutely laughable...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Every lib here criticizes Obama every day.
Every con is still licking Bush's balls......and he is the one fucked up EVERYTHING.
Anytime a President makes an act of war, Congress must authorize it within a certain amount of time regardless of what other outside entities clear it. Congress was never addressed with the issue of authorizing the activity in Libya by the White House. Even though the White House writes off our role as one of support, it is still considered an act of war as it is supporting an entity that is engaged in more realized acts of war. The timeframe for United States activity in Libya without Congressional authorization has expired and still the White House continues to issue American "support" while ignoring the Constitutionality of the situation.
By Rep. Ron Paul
http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/16/why-i ... z1PZP2HTyf
There is no issue more serious than war. Wars result in the loss of life and property. Wars are also expensive and an enormous economic burden.
Our Founders understood that waging war is not something that should be taken lightly, which is why Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution gives Congress — not the president — the authority to declare war. This was meant to be an important check on presidential power. The last thing the Founders wanted was an out-of-control executive branch engaging in unnecessary and unpopular wars without so much as a Congressional debate.
Unfortunately, that’s exactly the situation we have today in Libya.
That’s why I’ve joined several other members of Congress in a lawsuit against President Obama for engaging in military action in Libya without seeking the approval of Congress.
Of course, in 2007, then-Senator Obama spoke passionately about the need to go after the Bush administration for violating the War Powers Act — the very same thing he’s doing now. In fact, while speaking at DePaul University in October of 2007, then-Senator Barack Obama said the following:
“After Vietnam, Congress swore it would never again be duped into war, and even wrote a new law — the War Powers Act — to ensure it would not repeat its mistakes. But no law can force a Congress to stand up to the president. No law can make senators read the intelligence that showed the president was overstating the case for war. No law can give Congress a backbone if it refuses to stand up as the co-equal branch the Constitution made it.”
We are now taking Barack Obama’s past advice and standing up to the executive branch.
Of course, the War Powers Act is hardly an improvement on the U.S. Constitution because it does allow the president to go to war without the approval of Congress. But President Obama refuses to follow this law.
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Godfather.
and i am being absolutely serious, so please give me a serious reply.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I think a Romney/Bachman ticket could beat him. It will all depend on the economy and unemployment 3-4 months before the election. American voters have an extremely short memory.
then again, he is so ambitious he might just fall on his sword to pander to the tea party and the hard right...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."