any predictions on tonights rebublican debate?

CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
edited June 2011 in A Moving Train
im predicting the words "obamacare" "romneycare" "tax cuts" "spending" "2nd amendment" "freedom" and "god" to be used within the first 5 minutes.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    CH156378 wrote:
    im predicting the words "obamacare" "romneycare" "tax cuts" "spending" "2nd amendment" "freedom" and "god" to be used within the first 5 minutes.
    don't forget "debt", "free market", "socialist", "entitlement programs", "war on terror", "immenent threat", "family values", "rich create jobs in the private sector", "marriage between a man and a woman", etc etc....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I like the phrase, 'Get government out of (business') way'. We need Wall Streeters to figure out ways to 'Grow the Economy', right?
    I just wish reality T.V. star, Sarah Palin was tossed into the mix... oh, and that Trump guy (which we knew wasn't gonna happen because there isn't a 'Celebrity Apprentice' to advertise).
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    Republican debate drinking game anyone? :lol:
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    mca47 wrote:
    Republican debate drinking game anyone? :lol:

    :lol:
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mca47 wrote:
    Republican debate drinking game anyone? :lol:
    ...
    I don't think there's enough Vodka in Russia that would be able to cover the poor sap that gets stuck with, 'Obamacare'.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Cosmo wrote:
    I like the phrase, 'Get government out of (business') way'. We need Wall Streeters to figure out ways to 'Grow the Economy', right?
    I just wish reality T.V. star, Sarah Palin was tossed into the mix... oh, and that Trump guy (which we knew wasn't gonna happen because there isn't a 'Celebrity Apprentice' to advertise).
    i'm waiting for fred thompson to come riding in on his white horse just in time to save the country...

    remember how well that went last time? :lol::lol:

    seriously, what is it with republicans and celebrities? reagan, arnold, fred thompson, trump, etc..
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  • RVM1978RVM1978 Leesburg, FL Posts: 320
    There will always be the key "words", but what "ideas" are they going to present? It really won't matter anyway. This next election will be all about race. The last election had elements of that, but this time it's going to be black vs. white. There is so much bitterness towards Obama from alot of whites that it is going to effect the election. Luckily, I'm a rationally thinking adult that doesn't watch Fox News and will be voting for Mr. Obama again even though I am a white male. Republicans will play the fear card again. Why? They don't have a good enough candidate to run on the issues. Because of that, some people (white people) will have their influence swayed over to the Republicans. Let's just hope that some are more strong willed than others. Let's also not forget that the Republicans basically stalemated any sort of progress that Obama wanted to put forth in the first place. In that regard I think the Republicans just didn't want the Democrats to get the credit for getting the country out of this mess we're still in.
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Ron Paul Vs The Rest of the Field...but that's a fairly obvious prediction.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    CH156378 wrote:
    im predicting the words "obamacare" "romneycare" "tax cuts" "spending" "2nd amendment" "freedom" and "god" to be used within the first 5 minutes.
    don't forget "debt", "free market", "socialist", "entitlement programs", "war on terror", "immenent threat", "family values", "rich create jobs in the private sector", "marriage between a man and a woman", etc etc....
    Agreed on both posts. Also something similar: "Raising (rich) taxes will hurt job growth"
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    Idris wrote:
    Ron Paul Vs The Rest of the Field...but that's a fairly obvious prediction.


    Ron Paul will be talking about freedom, liberty, auditing the federal reserve, ending three wars, bringing troops home, cutting wasteful spending, reducing size of federal government, keeping government out of marriage, individual and states rights, and following the Constitution.

    Anyone have a problem with that?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    Idris wrote:
    Ron Paul Vs The Rest of the Field...but that's a fairly obvious prediction.


    Ron Paul will be talking about freedom, liberty, auditing the federal reserve, ending three wars, bringing troops home, cutting wasteful spending, reducing size of federal government, keeping government out of marriage, individual and states rights, and following the Constitution.

    Anyone have a problem with that?
    ...
    The only ones I have problems with are these...
    Freedom
    Liberty
    Following The Constitution
    Only because... someone has to give me the name of one politician that says he/she is is AGAINST Freedom, Liberty and Following the Constitution. I don't know anyone who runs for elected office and says they are against Freedom, Liberty and the Constitution.
    ...
    And a side note to the Republican in the debate... you cannot be both FOR Freedom and want to restrict the rights of your own citizens from marrying who they want.
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    great debate so far :lol:

    rick santorum on tea party, "great backstop for america..." :lol::lol:

    motherfucker
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    "tax cuts"!!!!!!!!!!

    everybody drink!!
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Millions of people will ask "What Republican Debate?" tomorrow.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    edited June 2011
    Pawlenty winning: "Obamneycare"

    Bachman's in. This is going to be good! The God's of comedy have blessed us.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Pawlenty winning: "Obamneycare"
    wow that is a 4 syllable word. bonus points for him....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • GrandmaGrandma Posts: 259
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Pawlenty winning: "Obamneycare"

    Bachman's in. This is going to be good! The God's of comedy have blessed us.

    I just hope we're not crying later. Never underestimate the stupidity/short memory of the american public.

    As for Ron Paul: What about: don't regulate business and let the free market fix the environment? And what the heck did he teach his son???
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    nice to see you guys going into it with the open minds you all talk about



    and who ever said it was right....Bachman's campaign will be pure comic gold...I am hoping for another pro/against america type test like she wanted for members of congress before...should be wonderful.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    nice to see you guys going into it with the open minds you all talk about



    and who ever said it was right....Bachman's campaign will be pure comic gold...I am hoping for another pro/against america type test like she wanted for members of congress before...should be wonderful.
    it is kind of hard to have an open mind when you have 30 years of reagan's economic policy so you know what is going to be said on the economy.

    it is also hard to have an open mind when going into it you know that they will not offer solutions, rather they will just bash obama. just like their party mantra has been since early 2008...

    they did not even bash each other...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    nice to see you guys going into it with the open minds you all talk about



    and who ever said it was right....Bachman's campaign will be pure comic gold...I am hoping for another pro/against america type test like she wanted for members of congress before...should be wonderful.
    it is kind of hard to have an open mind when you have 30 years of reagan's economic policy so you know what is going to be said on the economy.

    it is also hard to have an open mind when going into it you know that they will not offer solutions, rather they will just bash obama. just like their party mantra has been since early 2008...

    they did not even bash each other...


    if you think that "reaganomics" have been left alone to run a muck for 30 years you are sadly mistaken.

    You realize that if we DOUBLED income tax we would still be in a ~900 billion dollar deficit?

    but if you simply aren't going to listen to it why even watch it? why not get a new perspective on things...simply taking more in isn't a solution...taking more from those evil rich people isn't a long term solution...Why not prove to the american people that they can be responsible with our money, something that the spending of the current and previous administrations have been unable to do...because then asking for more in the form of tax increases (or in my opinion a tax simplification) won't be seen as putting more money on a bonfire.
    It is unfortunate that people had such hatred for bush that watching any republican/conservative say anything needs to be thrown out in that bathwater too...Because Paul's stance on pulling out of Afghanistan and what he said about the weak dollar policies were spot on.
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    nice to see you guys going into it with the open minds you all talk about



    and who ever said it was right....Bachman's campaign will be pure comic gold...I am hoping for another pro/against america type test like she wanted for members of congress before...should be wonderful.
    it is kind of hard to have an open mind when you have 30 years of reagan's economic policy so you know what is going to be said on the economy.

    it is also hard to have an open mind when going into it you know that they will not offer solutions, rather they will just bash obama. just like their party mantra has been since early 2008...

    they did not even bash each other...

    don't you find that both parties have their key ideas that are always the core of their platform. Obama said the same things that every Democrat said before him but the difference was that more people believe it when he said it.

    I think this election will be very interesting.
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    nice to see you guys going into it with the open minds you all talk about



    and who ever said it was right....Bachman's campaign will be pure comic gold...I am hoping for another pro/against america type test like she wanted for members of congress before...should be wonderful.
    it is kind of hard to have an open mind when you have 30 years of reagan's economic policy so you know what is going to be said on the economy.

    it is also hard to have an open mind when going into it you know that they will not offer solutions, rather they will just bash obama. just like their party mantra has been since early 2008...

    they did not even bash each other...


    As if the last Democratic debates weren't a Bush-bash festival. Keep drinking the Democratic cool-aid. Believe it or not, politicians on both sides are awful... yes, Republicans are wrong sometimes and so are Democrats. I know the latter will come as a shock.

    Regardless, question for you... do you even know what the word Keynesian means? If so, explain it and please comment on how the U.S. economic policy, particularly over the last decade, has NOT been actively Keynesian.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    nice to see you guys going into it with the open minds you all talk about



    and who ever said it was right....Bachman's campaign will be pure comic gold...I am hoping for another pro/against america type test like she wanted for members of congress before...should be wonderful.
    it is kind of hard to have an open mind when you have 30 years of reagan's economic policy so you know what is going to be said on the economy.

    it is also hard to have an open mind when going into it you know that they will not offer solutions, rather they will just bash obama. just like their party mantra has been since early 2008...

    they did not even bash each other...


    if you think that "reaganomics" have been left alone to run a muck for 30 years you are sadly mistaken.

    You realize that if we DOUBLED income tax we would still be in a ~900 billion dollar deficit?

    but if you simply aren't going to listen to it why even watch it? why not get a new perspective on things...simply taking more in isn't a solution...taking more from those evil rich people isn't a long term solution...Why not prove to the american people that they can be responsible with our money, something that the spending of the current and previous administrations have been unable to do...because then asking for more in the form of tax increases (or in my opinion a tax simplification) won't be seen as putting more money on a bonfire.
    It is unfortunate that people had such hatred for bush that watching any republican/conservative say anything needs to be thrown out in that bathwater too...Because Paul's stance on pulling out of Afghanistan and what he said about the weak dollar policies were spot on.
    trickle down economics does not work. it is proven to be a horrible economic policy.

    you HAVE to increase revenue via taxes. if this is such an emergency situation you have to increase revenue in addition to cutting spending. what do people who are in massive debt do? they cut back on spending AND try to generate more revenue by taking a second job. that is the fastest way out of debt, as opposed to keeping the same revenue and saving the money not spent and putting that towards the debt.

    and i agree with ron paul on his foreign policy stance. too bad we are owned by the military industrial complex.

    also something i find funny.... "on my first day in office i will repeal obamacare!!!" yeah, like one man can change something that has to be ammended by the congress :roll: when will people stop buying into shit that is contrary to the procedures of our government???
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    fife wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    nice to see you guys going into it with the open minds you all talk about



    and who ever said it was right....Bachman's campaign will be pure comic gold...I am hoping for another pro/against america type test like she wanted for members of congress before...should be wonderful.
    it is kind of hard to have an open mind when you have 30 years of reagan's economic policy so you know what is going to be said on the economy.

    it is also hard to have an open mind when going into it you know that they will not offer solutions, rather they will just bash obama. just like their party mantra has been since early 2008...

    they did not even bash each other...

    don't you find that both parties have their key ideas that are always the core of their platform. Obama said the same things that every Democrat said before him but the difference was that more people believe it when he said it.

    I think this election will be very interesting.
    it will be an interesting landslide if the gop pushes the ryan budget and changes medicare. 80% of the population in most polls i have seen do not want medicare touched or changed at all. why would the gop put their neck on the guillotine by messing with something that 80% of the population feels is a necessary program?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    inlet13 wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    nice to see you guys going into it with the open minds you all talk about



    and who ever said it was right....Bachman's campaign will be pure comic gold...I am hoping for another pro/against america type test like she wanted for members of congress before...should be wonderful.
    it is kind of hard to have an open mind when you have 30 years of reagan's economic policy so you know what is going to be said on the economy.

    it is also hard to have an open mind when going into it you know that they will not offer solutions, rather they will just bash obama. just like their party mantra has been since early 2008...

    they did not even bash each other...


    As if the last Democratic debates weren't a Bush-bash festival. Keep drinking the Democratic cool-aid. Believe it or not, politicians on both sides are awful... yes, Republicans are wrong sometimes and so are Democrats. I know the latter will come as a shock.

    Regardless, question for you... do you even know what the word Keynesian means? If so, explain it and please comment on how the U.S. economic policy, particularly over the last decade, has NOT been actively Keynesian.
    first of all i am not a democrat. i am too liberal for them, and they are too spineless for me. they have their faults, so no that is not a shock to me. i criticize them frequently on here. frankly i think that they would fuck me less hard than the gop. the gop is the party of the rich, and their policies seem to despise the poor and eradicate the middle class. i am not rich so i will never support them. i feel that they would only further divide the country and damage the country with reversing everything obama has done.

    yes i am familiar with that term, and it sounds all well and good, but why is the private sector not hiring? could it be that they have figured out how to do more with less? as in more with less employees?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    first of all i am not a democrat. i am too liberal for them, and they are too spineless for me. they have their faults, so no that is not a shock to me. i criticize them frequently on here. frankly i think that they would fuck me less hard than the gop. the gop is the party of the rich, and their policies seem to despise the poor and eradicate the middle class. i am not rich so i will never support them. i feel that they would only further divide the country and damage the country with reversing everything obama has done.

    yes i am familiar with that term, and it sounds all well and good, but why is the private sector not hiring? could it be that they have figured out how to do more with less? as in more with less employees?


    Ok. I don't really care whether you're left or right of democrats. I come here rarely and typically see you spouting Democratic talking points, more so than anyone else. I call that sort of behavior a Hannity-Democrat.

    As for the term... I asked a question, which you did not answer. I asked what does the term Keynesian mean (you don't need to answer if you know)... but, I would like you to explain how the U.S. has not been actively Keynesian, particularly over the last decade. I think this exercise would help you understand something.

    To answer your question, I'd say the private sector is not hiring because they have no incentive to hire and their confidence is shook. For incentives, business tries to maximize profits. Profit is revenue less costs. Wages are a cost. If demand is low, because consumer confidence is still low, then one way to maximize profit is to try to minimize costs. Business typically won't hire when they're trying to minimize costs, unless there are incentives to do so. For instance, lowering the corporate tax rate from the highest in the industrialized world (35%) to a more competitive rate would cut costs for business and create incentives for them to hire.

    As for.... have they figured out to do more part, or better yet asked their employees to pick up a bit of slack... sure, in some cases. But, it's not like the computer was just invented or some other form new capital. So, is this different from any other point in time? Have people become suddenly more productive like they did when the computer was invented? I'd say no. Business is acting just like consumers are... scared. They are timid and saving more just like consumers are.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    it is kind of hard to have an open mind when you have 30 years of reagan's economic policy so you know what is going to be said on the economy.

    it is also hard to have an open mind when going into it you know that they will not offer solutions, rather they will just bash obama. just like their party mantra has been since early 2008...

    they did not even bash each other...


    if you think that "reaganomics" have been left alone to run a muck for 30 years you are sadly mistaken.

    You realize that if we DOUBLED income tax we would still be in a ~900 billion dollar deficit?

    but if you simply aren't going to listen to it why even watch it? why not get a new perspective on things...simply taking more in isn't a solution...taking more from those evil rich people isn't a long term solution...Why not prove to the american people that they can be responsible with our money, something that the spending of the current and previous administrations have been unable to do...because then asking for more in the form of tax increases (or in my opinion a tax simplification) won't be seen as putting more money on a bonfire.
    It is unfortunate that people had such hatred for bush that watching any republican/conservative say anything needs to be thrown out in that bathwater too...Because Paul's stance on pulling out of Afghanistan and what he said about the weak dollar policies were spot on.
    trickle down economics does not work. it is proven to be a horrible economic policy.

    you HAVE to increase revenue via taxes. if this is such an emergency situation you have to increase revenue in addition to cutting spending. what do people who are in massive debt do? they cut back on spending AND try to generate more revenue by taking a second job. that is the fastest way out of debt, as opposed to keeping the same revenue and saving the money not spent and putting that towards the debt.

    and i agree with ron paul on his foreign policy stance. too bad we are owned by the military industrial complex.

    also something i find funny.... "on my first day in office i will repeal obamacare!!!" yeah, like one man can change something that has to be ammended by the congress :roll: when will people stop buying into shit that is contrary to the procedures of our government???

    I think we will have to agree to disagree on what horrible economic policy is...I think weak dollar policies are far more damaging than what you call trickle down economics. all people worse off today then they were yesterday because the value of the dollar in their pocket is getting lowered all the time.
    you don't have to increase revenue...it isn't revenue...it is tax money...revenue is something that is earned not simply taken...
    if they want to increase revenue why not increase services and charge fees for them...maybe they should nationalize energy...that would "increase revenue", why not simply just take everything from every one that will surely increase revenue...they could confiscate all the wealth in this country and the next year still run a deficit....what have they done that has earned the confidence of the people to give them more while they continue to engage in the EXACT same behavior that brought us here today...

    but you are right, I do get tired of politicians false promises and creating unrealistic expectations...if they treated us like adults more of us would act like it I think...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    inlet13 wrote:
    first of all i am not a democrat. i am too liberal for them, and they are too spineless for me. they have their faults, so no that is not a shock to me. i criticize them frequently on here. frankly i think that they would fuck me less hard than the gop. the gop is the party of the rich, and their policies seem to despise the poor and eradicate the middle class. i am not rich so i will never support them. i feel that they would only further divide the country and damage the country with reversing everything obama has done.

    yes i am familiar with that term, and it sounds all well and good, but why is the private sector not hiring? could it be that they have figured out how to do more with less? as in more with less employees?


    Ok. I don't really care whether you're left or right of democrats. I come here rarely and typically see you spouting Democratic talking points, more so than anyone else. I call that sort of behavior a Hannity-Democrat.

    As for the term... I asked a question, which you did not answer. I asked what does the term Keynesian mean (you don't need to answer if you know)... but, I would like you to explain how the U.S. has not been actively Keynesian, particularly over the last decade. I think this exercise would help you understand something.

    To answer your question, I'd say the private sector is not hiring because they have no incentive to hire and their confidence is shook. For incentives, business tries to maximize profits. Profit is revenue less costs. Wages are a cost. If demand is low, because consumer confidence is still low, then one way to maximize profit is to try to minimize costs. Business typically won't hire when they're trying to minimize costs, unless there are incentives to do so. For instance, lowering the corporate tax rate from the highest in the industrialized world (35%) to a more competitive rate would cut costs for business and create incentives for them to hire.

    As for.... have they figured out to do more part, or better yet asked their employees to pick up a bit of slack... sure, in some cases. But, it's not like the computer was just invented or some other form new capital. So, is this different from any other point in time? Have people become suddenly more productive like they did when the computer was invented? I'd say no. Business is acting just like consumers are... scared. They are timid and saving more just like consumers are.
    oh really? what specifically are the democratic talking points that i am spouting off more than anybody else??? i am speaking from my own reality and from what i see happening every day in this country. forgive me if i post passionately. and frankly i don't care if you agree with my opinions or my presentation. i call things as i see them. if i am so wrong all of the time why is it that people don't call me on it?

    now that we have that straight, i know what the term means. what is your point in asking me that question? i think that we have attempted to be keynesian but that would mean that the economy would be driven primarily by the private sector, which has been bleeding jobs the last 4 years. we need more government jobs for things like clean energy and infrastructure, which is crumbling by the way..

    the tax cuts argument is worn, tired, and useless. what good will cutting corporate taxes do? many corporations do not pay taxes or have offshore tax shelters, which is cheating... they have moved overseas. does anyone really believe that they will pay to uproot their business in other countries and move back here? i don't believe that for one second.
    this is not a thread on economics, so you should probably start a thread if you want to discuss these things.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    don't you find that both parties have their key ideas that are always the core of their platform. Obama said the same things that every Democrat said before him but the difference was that more people believe it when he said it.

    I think this election will be very interesting.[/quote]
    it will be an interesting landslide if the gop pushes the ryan budget and changes medicare. 80% of the population in most polls i have seen do not want medicare touched or changed at all. why would the gop put their neck on the guillotine by messing with something that 80% of the population feels is a necessary program?[/quote]

    you do ask an interesting question, WHY would they touch medicare if political its suicide esp with seniors who lets face it are a major faction in the GOP I don't know the answer.

    as for the Ryan budget, i don't see that passing at all but maybe it just me.
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