arod and any of the other dopers will never be accepted as great players. i think you will always see people saying "but he doped" when they talk about bonds, or mcgwire, or sosa or any of those guys.
its the non dopers that will always be respected. i'd start naming off people and players who have used and i think its a safe bet, history will look kind on them
i disagree...
Bonds was a top tier talent long before he blew up. He had all the tools in pittsburgh when he was still a skinny kid.
PJ: 2003 Mansfield: July 2 2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29 2005 Montreal: Sept 15 2006 Boston: May 24 & 25 2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28, 2010 Boston: May 17 2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25, 2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7
Yeah, Bonds of course had a great decade, and insane statistical increase in 2000-2001. hmm
I like the ones that sneak up on you though. I never really hear news of Ichiro, and now he's like 37-38 years old. Of course, that's because his team is never too good. Also I think i heard that Mark Grace had the most hits in the 90's. That surprised me (if it was in fact correct)
grace did have the most hits in the 90s... most doubles and sac flies, too. he was my favorite player growing up. he'll be only the second player to ever have the most hits in a decade to not make the HoF... the other is pete rose.
anyways, i'm surprised that anyone would utter a name other than albert pujols in this discussion. i hate that guy, but he's a freak. and i'll love him when he comes to the cubs next year!!
The pool is soo tainted with blue steroid pee it would be impossible to defeinitively determine if anyone is clean, and that being said none of them would get my vote.
if you include roids you have to say Bonds/Clemens
Everyone else that was mentioned could be considered for #2- Halladay, Ichiro, A-Rod, Jeter
Were Helton and Vlad mentioned yet :?:
I wouldn't include Chipper and Bonds(their best years were more from '95-'05 IMO)
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
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Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
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i disagree...
Bonds was a top tier talent long before he blew up. He had all the tools in pittsburgh when he was still a skinny kid.
but of course it's Pujols and it's not close. the rest just playing for 2nd.
2003 Mansfield: July 2
2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
2005 Montreal: Sept 15
2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
2010 Boston: May 17
2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7
EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
Roy Halladay
Chase Utley
Albert Pujols
Hanley Ramirez (1/2 decade so far)
Next in Line:
Matt Kemp
Carlos Gonzalez
Troy Tulowitski
Felix Hernandez
grace did have the most hits in the 90s... most doubles and sac flies, too. he was my favorite player growing up. he'll be only the second player to ever have the most hits in a decade to not make the HoF... the other is pete rose.
anyways, i'm surprised that anyone would utter a name other than albert pujols in this discussion. i hate that guy, but he's a freak. and i'll love him when he comes to the cubs next year!!
if you include roids you have to say Bonds/Clemens
hitter - pujols
best player ever - utley
Everyone else that was mentioned could be considered for #2- Halladay, Ichiro, A-Rod, Jeter
Were Helton and Vlad mentioned yet :?:
I wouldn't include Chipper and Bonds(their best years were more from '95-'05 IMO)
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Pujols, Ichiro, Chipper Jones, Rivera, Vlad Guerrero, Randy Johnson, Jeter, Abreu, Damon