Fire crews watch man die

gimmesometruth27

Dave Eh wrote:

not only that, but trying to save a drowing person that isn't unconscious is pretty much a death sentence for both.

yes most people who are drowning would want to be saved. this guy was deliberately trying to kill himself. i would bet that a struggle would have ensued and we would have had multiple fatalities, including firefighters and emts...

cincybearcat

All rescuers are trained to first evaluate scene safety and their own safety. That is all that was done. They did the right thing.

While it sounds heartless, you would much rather watch one person die then watch a person and their attempted rescuer die.

whygohome

mickeyrat wrote:

Cree Nations wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

Not sure I understand your point in posting your "different breed" comment.


There is specific training and equipment involved in these types of rescues or any for that matter. Due to budget cuts to public safety(the real crime here) , do you think they should have risked their own lives trying to save this suicidal man, not having been trained or equiped to do so??

it depends....to play devils advocate....isnt that what firemen are trained to do?

fixed.


Think theres a reason recruits go through training to begin with? I was in the navy. WE went through shipboard firefighting and because I was aviation side of things , we also were trained in aircraft firefighting.

My brother is Fire Chief of Andersen Air Force Base in Guam. Those guys train all the time. Without the training and equipment for that type of rescue they themselves could have been killed.

This isnt about their desire to help. But one of $$$$$$.

And there's your answer, folks. Discussion over.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Dave Eh wrote:

not only that, but trying to save a drowing person that isn't unconscious is pretty much a death sentence for both.

yes most people who are drowning would want to be saved. this guy was deliberately trying to kill himself. i would bet that a struggle would have ensued and we would have had multiple fatalities, including firefighters and emts...

it's usually a struggle with people who want to be saved as well. there are countless examples of the drowner panicking, ends up going down and taking the rescuer with them.

Cosmo

I've thought about this... It all depends on the situation. I don't know, because I wasn't there.
What was the tide like? Was it a trecherous riptide or a mild ebb?
What was the terrain like? Was it rocky or sanded? Were the people watching from a cliff overhead or from across a smooth asphalt parking lot.
What was the victim like? Was he acting crazy? Was he big or little?
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I don't know what I would have done... Am i really willing to risk my life going into choppy, riptides on a rocky beach to wrestle a big, fat crazy stranger that might drag me to sea with him?
I'm guessing... there's a good chance that I would have been the 76th bystander that day.