So what is the software the ticket brokers have?

lateralus963
lateralus963 Posts: 381
edited April 2008 in The Porch
I am reading a lot people write that ticket brokers have special software that bumps them ahead of us? Is this true? and if so how can we get it? So then we can shut them out, buy a bunch of tickets and sell them to fan club members at face value...
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,924
    I doubt you'd want to invest the cost of that software for your plan of reselling at face value.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,945
    lateralus963 wrote:
    I am reading a lot people write that ticket brokers have special software that bumps them ahead of us? Is this true? and if so how can we get it? So then we can shut them out, buy a bunch of tickets and sell them to fan club members at face value...
    software costs $10,000........
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  • butterfly1
    butterfly1 Posts: 372
    I know...its kind of odd that someone would write a program to get around the random word input thing. Then again maybe not if there is enough profit potential.
  • lateralus963
    lateralus963 Posts: 381
    I am thinking more of an organization of people, we get a whole bunch of people to go in on the software... it cant be that much than and the truth of the matter is, it will save money in the long run.
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    2006: Camden I & II, Continental II (NJ)
    2008: Camden I & II, DC, MSG I & II (NYC), & EV: NYC II
    2009: Spectrum last 2 nights
    2012: EV: Orlando I & II, Ft. Lauderdale I
    2013: Brooklyn I & II
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale & Miami
  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    butterfly1 wrote:
    I know...its kind of odd that someone would write a program to get around the random word input thing. Then again maybe not if there is enough profit potential.

    so this program works reguardless of having to enter that code thing at TM
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,924
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    software costs $10,000........
    And then upgrades when Ticketmaster tweeks their system cost thousands more.


    What say we start a benevolent face value ticket redistribution society...who's gonna pony up the first 10grand to start us up?
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  • restlesssoul
    restlesssoul Posts: 6,952
    the way i heard it was that they have this software. say if a show, like the eddie vedder show in vancouver, is going on sale. their software blocks most IP addresses on the west coast, but keeps east coast ones open. so not a lot of east coasters try for tickets in van anyways. THEN, i heard the software, constantly keeps trying by the millisecond or something for when they go on sale, and when they do, the software opens up like 30 windows all at once for all the best available tickets. this one guy in the paper, said he had the entire first two rows available on his screen for a show. the software also overrides the buying limit per household. i think it was made in india or something.

    i got all that from an article read. i googled i t but couldnt find it. anyways, thats my understanding of it.

    ticketmaster addressed this issue by adding another word to type in. i think that foiled the current software out there.
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  • lateralus963
    lateralus963 Posts: 381
    well do 100 people wanta go in with me? it will be $100 per person...lol
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    2008: Camden I & II, DC, MSG I & II (NYC), & EV: NYC II
    2009: Spectrum last 2 nights
    2012: EV: Orlando I & II, Ft. Lauderdale I
    2013: Brooklyn I & II
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale & Miami
  • Indifference
    Indifference Posts: 2,778
    Due a search on Ticketmaster and RMG Technologies.....plenty to read up on.

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,924
    thunderDAN wrote:
    so this program works reguardless of having to enter that code thing at TM
    This program deciphers the code thing at high speed.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    lateralus963 wrote:
    I am reading a lot people write that ticket brokers have special software that bumps them ahead of us? Is this true? and if so how can we get it? So then we can shut them out, buy a bunch of tickets and sell them to fan club members at face value...
    ...
    It's called 'Hannah Montana'.
    It gets in line and when it reaches the ticket window... it re-uses the system generated authorization code. They can purchase up to the maximum allotment on different credit card accounts. If the limit is 8 tickets per purchase and they have 100 different credit cards... they get 800 tickets.
    ...
    Think of it in these terms...
    You are standing in line to buy tickets at the box office. A fat, hairy, greasy 55 year old man with a bad comb over is in front of you. He buys 8 tickets... but, instead of getting out of line... he pulls out another credit card and buy 8 more. He does this 100 times so by the time you get to the window... the tickets are gone.
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  • lateralus963
    lateralus963 Posts: 381
    restlesssoul wrote:
    the way i heard it was that they have this software. say if a show, like the eddie vedder show in vancouver, is going on sale. their software blocks most IP addresses on the west coast, but keeps east coast ones open. so not a lot of east coasters try for tickets in van anyways. THEN, i heard the software, constantly keeps trying by the millisecond or something for when they go on sale, and when they do, the software opens up like 30 windows all at once for all the best available tickets. this one guy in the paper, said he had the entire first two rows available on his screen for a show. the software also overrides the buying limit per household. i think it was made in india or something.

    i got all that from an article read. i googled i t but couldnt find it. anyways, thats my understanding of it.

    ticketmaster addressed this issue by adding another word to type in. i think that foiled the current software out there.

    So that is the purpose for the two word code... interesting
    2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Pittsburgh
    2006: Camden I & II, Continental II (NJ)
    2008: Camden I & II, DC, MSG I & II (NYC), & EV: NYC II
    2009: Spectrum last 2 nights
    2012: EV: Orlando I & II, Ft. Lauderdale I
    2013: Brooklyn I & II
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale & Miami
  • butterfly1
    butterfly1 Posts: 372
    thunderDAN wrote:
    so this program works reguardless of having to enter that code thing at TM

    No I don't think it can. TM doesn't either. Thats what isn't adding up for me. But then I don't write code. IMO the random code would defeat access blocking software.
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    It's called 'Hannah Montana'.
    It gets in line and when it reaches the ticket window... it re-uses the system generated authorization code. They can purchase up to the maximum allotment on different credit card accounts. If the limit is 8 tickets per purchase and they have 100 different credit cards... they get 800 tickets.
    ...
    Think of it in these terms...
    You are standing in line to buy tickets at the box office. A fat, hairy, greasy 55 year old man with a bad comb over is in front of you. He buys 8 tickets... but, instead of getting out of line... he pulls out another credit card and buy 8 more. He does this 100 times so by the time you get to the window... the tickets are gone.

    awesome visual :)
  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    butterfly1 wrote:
    No I don't think it can. TM doesn't either. Thats what isn't adding up for me. But then I don't write code. IMO the random code would defeat access blocking software.

    If you guys have 5-10 minutes I'll go ahead and write some software that can bypass everything at TM and get you past all of that. If you have 5 minutes more I can work on some software that can get you backstage passes.

    I'm that good
  • restlesssoul
    restlesssoul Posts: 6,952
    thunderDAN wrote:
    If you guys have 5-10 minutes I'll go ahead and write some software that can bypass everything at TM and get you past all of that. If you have 5 minutes more I can work on some software that can get you backstage passes.

    I'm that good
    but can you write the software that can get me a date with natalie portman
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  • freealcibiades
    freealcibiades Posts: 365
    It makes sense if the margin is big enough. And so it's clear, I absolutely abhor the automated programs used by ticket brokers. But see below for why it make sense:

    If you spend $10,000 for an account with RMG Technologies (software provider) and it gives you the ability to purchase large blocks of tickets before every John Q. Smith is able to get in his order for 2 tickets, your block of seats will likely be highly sought after in the secondary market (ebay, stubhub) as the seat quality will be higher (read: closer to the stage)

    In the example of PJ at MSG let's say Broker XYZ uses the program and purchases 100 tickets and gets great seats. The overhead for this is roughly $9,000 ($90 per ticket in total x 100 tickets). The re-sale value in the secondary market however is likely no less than $20,000. The better the seats the greater the markup. So if 50 of those 100 seats were on the floor the markup would more likely be 300% to 400% creating an even larger profit for the ticket broker. The expense of the program at $10,000 is a bargain and pays for itself after just one use.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    i wish i could go back in time to like 3 years ago when i got good seats to all the shows i wanted to see. now im struggling to even make it into the arenas. thanks brokers.
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  • butterfly1
    butterfly1 Posts: 372
    thunderDAN wrote:
    If you guys have 5-10 minutes I'll go ahead and write some software that can bypass everything at TM and get you past all of that. If you have 5 minutes more I can work on some software that can get you backstage passes.

    I'm that good


    I don't doubt it. But I am thinking I prefer the old days when the lottery was by mail.
    Now that Natalie Portman fix....
  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    restlesssoul wrote:
    but can you write the software that can get me a date with natalie portman

    I can, but I will need some duct tape, the case to Mortal Kombat on Sega Gennises, 3 green zip-ties, and most importantly I will need a blue Jacks ball.

    If I get all of that, you will also need 7-10 minutes and a box of rubbers for your date with Miss Portman

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