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Is PJ live better than The Mars Volta live??

BonesmagooBonesmagoo Posts: 41
edited April 2008 in The Porch
I just came from The Mars Volta show and it was fucking amazing!! I've been a loyal Pearl Jam fan all of my life. I've seen them front row even a few times because I've been a fan club member since I was 12. Anyhow, I was deep in the crowd for TMV, but it was so intense it didn't matter. I kinda think that TMV is a better live band but feel like even suggesting an idea is heresy. Any of you seen TMV live? What do you think?
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    not a fan of TMV...so yes, PJ is better!
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  • yellowled24yellowled24 Posts: 3,118
    noone is better than PJ...:eek: not live, not on albums, not ever....period ;):D
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,416
    theyre different types of bands so its hard to compare. i can see people arguing that the guys in TMV have more talent but i think PJ puts on a better show. great setlists and interaction with the crowd put them ahead.
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  • BonesmagooBonesmagoo Posts: 41
    Well that doesn't count. If you saw them live I think you would be a fan....unless you're def. J/K :P

    Anyone who has at least seen TMV live have an opinion?
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,416
    Bonesmagoo wrote:
    Well that doesn't count. If you saw them live I think you would be a fan....unless you're def. J/K :P

    Anyone who has at least seen TMV live have an opinion?

    ive seen TMV 3 times and they are fantastic. but songs can drag on for a while and PJ has more charisma onstage.
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  • BonesmagooBonesmagoo Posts: 41
    SVRD, I appreciate your open-minded and candid opinion. For the rest of you, I love PJ and all but do we really have to flat out say they are the best on album and live??!! That's a little ridiculous. They fucking rock, no doubt......but lets keep our ears open.
  • onejourneyonejourney Posts: 285
    Saw Mars Volta Open for RHCP a couple Years ago....I really liked their albums before I saw the show so I was pretty excited about it. In all honesty...I didnt really care for TMV show. I would rather listen to the album. It just gets to be a bit much for me live. The are great musicians, and no doubt really good at what they do. But I'd take Pearl Jam any day of the week over TMV. Just my opinion though.
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    theyre different types of bands so its hard to compare. i can see people arguing that the guys in TMV have more talent but i think PJ puts on a better show. great setlists and interaction with the crowd put them ahead.
    I dont get the fascination with them. I bought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Loused_in_the_Comatorium and hated...just can't stand the voice


    ...should I give that album another shot?
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  • BonesmagooBonesmagoo Posts: 41
    .....but a legit opinion none the less. Thank you.
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Bonesmagoo wrote:
    SVRD, I appreciate your open-minded and candid opinion. For the rest of you, I love PJ and all but do we really have to flat out say they are the best on album and live??!! That's a little ridiculous. They fucking rock, no doubt......but lets keep our ears open.
    The truth hurts, don't it! :p

    and yes, Pearl Jam is the best live and studio band ever! ;)
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  • BonesmagooBonesmagoo Posts: 41
    LongRd. wrote:
    I dont get the fascination with them. I bought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Loused_in_the_Comatorium and hated...just can't stand the voice


    ...should I give that album another shot?

    Please do! They are pretty progressive, so its kinda impossible to like them right off the bat, but listen to Amputechture or Bedlam a few times in a row and I challenge you to remove the disc from your CD player. I was a naysayer when they came out with Deloused for a while.....but now don't know how I managed without it.
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Bonesmagoo wrote:
    Please do! They are pretty progressive, so its kinda impossible to like them right off the bat, but listen to Amputechture or Bedlam a few times in a row and I challenge you to remove the disc from your CD player. I was a naysayer when they came out with Deloused for a while.....but now don't know how I managed without it.
    I guess it wouldn't hurt to re-listen to them again. After all, I'm huge Mike Patton fan and Mr. Bungle was experimental/post-rock.
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  • nocodelover22nocodelover22 Posts: 108
    It's just different man. It's just not possible to say if either one is better or worse, it's just two different bands, two different styles of music. Nothing has to be better, it's just different.
  • BonesmagooBonesmagoo Posts: 41
    LongRd. wrote:
    The truth hurts, don't it! :p

    and yes, Pearl Jam is the best live and studio band ever! ;)

    Come on, isn't that a little too much to say?? I'm curious to hear your 2nd best studio and/or live band EVER.

    Please don't get me wrong, PJ is my favorite band, but I think a blanket and highly subjective statement is a little much.
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Bonesmagoo wrote:
    Come on, isn't that a little too much to say?? I'm curious to hear your 2nd best studio and/or live band EVER.

    Please don't get me wrong, PJ is my favorite band, but I think a blanket and highly subjective statement is a little much.
    My second favorite bands usually change through the years.
    For awhile Alice in Chains were my second favorite in the 90's.
    Then Soul Coughing became a huge favorite in 2000(after they broke up already) :mad:

    Then, fell in love with Faith No More around '05...(also disbanded about 7 years earlier) :mad:

    Currently, my favorite band behind PJ is Radiohead!!! :D hopefully I'll see them in August
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  • Joe2TheRevengeJoe2TheRevenge Posts: 904
    yellowled24 wrote:
    noone is better than PJ...:eek: not live, not on albums, not ever....period ;):D


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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Joe2TheRevenge wrote:
    Sigur Ros is.
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    ;)
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  • TallGuyCMTallGuyCM Posts: 328
    I've seen the Mars Volta 2x in the past year, I agree with what someone said before how they are "a bit much". They are GREAT live, just as PJ is GREAT live, but the difference between the two is that by the end of a Mars Volta show, I'm pretty ready for it to be over.

    Anyone reading this, even if you don't like progressive stuff, PLEASE give the new Mars Volta album "The Bedlam in Goliath" a try...the whole album is one of the most cohesive, solid efforts I've heard in years. Tracks 1-5 must be played continuously, I'll leave it at that.
  • TallGuyCMTallGuyCM Posts: 328
    And another thing, pertaining to who was talking about the overall "blanket statement"...am I the only one who feels like I'm at church in these forums sometimes? You know how if you go to some churches and they're all like "our belief is the only and best belief, and anyone who believes anything else is wrong."

    Same with some PJ fans. It's like OF COURSE they're the best LIVE band and OF COURSE they're the best STUDIO band and anyone who thinks otherwise is CRAZY. Well...
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    TallGuyCM wrote:
    And another thing, pertaining to who was talking about the overall "blanket statement"...am I the only one who feels like I'm at church in these forums sometimes? You know how if you go to some churches and they're all like "our belief is the only and best belief, and anyone who believes anything else is wrong."

    Same with some PJ fans. It's like OF COURSE they're the best LIVE band and OF COURSE they're the best STUDIO band and anyone who thinks otherwise is CRAZY. Well...
    Pearl Jam can't do no wrong! :cool:
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  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    Pearl Jam are far far better live then the Mars Volta. I love tmv, but I was bored shitless when I saw them. They need to cut about an hour from their sets.
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  • SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    Bonesmagoo wrote:
    I love PJ and all but do we really have to flat out say they are the best on album and live??!! That's a little ridiculous. They fucking rock, no doubt......but lets keep our ears open.
    we dont HAVE to say they are the best live, we just KNOW it. I can honestly and openly say that BECUZ ive seen ALOT of bands live. Everyone is different BUT, i have heard from people that are NOT fans of PEARL JAM say that they are without a doubt thee best live band. I will not mention the other best live act ive heard people say becuz some of you chumps talk too much mess!!!
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  • SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    TallGuyCM wrote:
    And another thing, pertaining to who was talking about the overall "blanket statement"...am I the only one who feels like I'm at church in these forums sometimes? You know how if you go to some churches and they're all like "our belief is the only and best belief, and anyone who believes anything else is wrong."

    Same with some PJ fans. It's like OF COURSE they're the best LIVE band and OF COURSE they're the best STUDIO band and anyone who thinks otherwise is CRAZY. Well...
    thats true with SOME fans. Not all. but do keep in mind you ARE at a PEARL JAM site!!!! :D besides, youre just CRAZY!!!! :D
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  • DontGotIDDontGotID Posts: 137
    PJ and Mars Volta are two completely different bands, as someone said before. In my opinion, TMV is very hit or miss with their songs. I have never heard an album of theirs where I actually like every song. But don't get me wrong, I think theyre a great band and do like a bunch of their songs. I think that Eddie's voice is alot more accurate in relation to PJ albums. I've seen a few videos of TMV and the frontman's voice doesn't sound great at all, but then again his voice is amazing on their records, and is probably hard to replicate when they rock out as much as they do on stage.

    Just my opinion
  • butterfly1butterfly1 Posts: 372
    I've seen TMV. They are intense, in every sense of the word for sure--long sets, dense, progressive music, wailing vocals, off meter drumming. PJ to my ears is a much different band. Mike and Stone play relatively straightforward rock whereas Omar Rodriguez seems bent on creating a new genre.
    Cant compare them, but TMV in a big stadium as a headliner for 60 thousand people would be quite an experience.
  • whichwaysignwhichwaysign Posts: 229
    Really just depends what outside influences I'm on. I'm sure there are many on this board who know where I'm coming from.
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  • firecrotch23firecrotch23 Posts: 586
    i saw tmv open for the chilli peppers last year, to my surprise, they both sucked
    Small my table, seats just 3, its not crowded, its just lucky me
  • strummersstrummers Posts: 2,611
    I've seen TMV 3 times now, once very recently, and I have to say they are a great live band, for very different reasons to PJ. With TMV you get an epic performance with very long jams as part of each song, which I can understand doesn't suit a lot of people. If you go to a TMV gig and expect to hear the songs note for note as per the albums you will be sorely dispapointed.

    There is little band/audience ineraction (although having said that they got around 30+ people on stage for the 1st or 2nd song at the last gig I went to) and during their quieter moments you often hear quite a loud 'hub' of conversation as the audience gets bored with the longevity of the song/s and people moving to and from the bar or toilets. Having said that, I do love going to see them and wish more people in the crowd would be a little more respectful during their jam sessions.

    Bearing all that in mind, the extra long sets, the crowd interacation, the anticipation and the feeling of utter elation after a PJ gig makes them the better live band, in my humble opinion. The way I decided?

    By imagining both bands announced a gig on the same day in my home town - who would I go and see? No doubt about it PJ.

    Now for that gig in Newcastle....

    If you want another fantastic live band - check out Clutch! First time I saw them last year I went straight home and ordered more tickets for another show - Neil puts on one hell of a performance!
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  • BeavBeav Posts: 223
    TMV have really tightened up their live act in the last couple years. Cedric even has shows where he sounds AMAZING... but that doesn't happen often.. I just got fucked over by them again with a second canceled show in Columbus so I kinda gotta grudge at the moment, but putting that aside, they can blow your mind live. More explosive energy on stage than present-day PJ. Pearl Jam has a better connection with the audience and music that we can generally relate to more; TMV is better for watching a display of frantic, trippy, explosive, technical art. They're different animals, but they're both right up there.
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  • HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    PJ is the best live band period
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