Third time is a charm
butterjam
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Ron Paul for president 2012!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... cy/?hpt=T2
At the very least, I hope his message to have a full audit of the Federal Reserve and bring all of our troops home from around the world will garner enough public support to make some changes.
At the very least he is honest, principled, and does not cater to people with deep pockets.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... cy/?hpt=T2
At the very least, I hope his message to have a full audit of the Federal Reserve and bring all of our troops home from around the world will garner enough public support to make some changes.
At the very least he is honest, principled, and does not cater to people with deep pockets.
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he has a better chance at being assasinated by the knight's templar than he does at conforming.
and anyway, even if he does conform, at least there will be some overlap between taking office and the time when he is considered conformed...which will be longer than the others simply because they have conformed before they will have ever taken office.
I don't agree with him 100% of the time, but he definitely has stood by his ideals on a lot of what I find truly important.
The race will be better because he is in it regardless if he is nominated by the GOP...I would prefer he go independant
added the link
just found these clips from the recent debate DOMA and drugs are discussed ...in case anyone wants to check them out
http://www.towleroad.com/2011/05/paul.html
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
He's already conforming by running on the Republican ticket.
I don't understand your point...he is the only true republican left
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
once they are elected.......impossible to be approached.
I'm sure some candidates mean some of the things they "promise", but come on. You guys have to realize that the President is not REALLY in charge. The Machine is in charge and it runs the country. The Machine is the system itself. There is nothing no one person can do in the White House that will truly change things. It's all already controlled.
won't have to go back that far, JFK comes to mind quickly...he seemed to stay true to what he thought was right
...Carter too...unfortunately I cannot say the same for Reagan and Bush Sr...W either...i see a pattern there...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
might as well give up all hope then
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Ron Paul was the subject of a great article I read a few years ago called "Ghosts in the Machine". He, and Dennis Kucinich were compared as ghosts rattling the chains to the machine but that's all they'll ever do. The machine will never allow them in because they speak truth, and let's face it, our government won't ever allow that...
thats the best part about them both, if we the people give them the support to make the debates and buy the air time they cannot be silenced...it really is the only way...but once you cut the head off the snake the rest may follow..who knows...I just love when he says things like he did about heroin...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
The media is part of the problem though. The media really does its part to warp certain candidates as appealing and others as less appealing. Look at the questions they get asked. Why does Kucinich get asked about aliens when another candidate is asked a better question? It's all part of the plan.
If Ron Paul has been in Congress for the past 20 years... doesn't that make him an 'Incumbant'?
Doesn't that mean he is a 'Washington Insider'... a 'Career Politician'?
How does the Tea Party reconcile their basic principle against career politicians, Washington insiders and incumbants?
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My guess... hypocrisy and/or excuses.
Hail, Hail!!!
He was in Congress for a while in the late 70s through early 80s, then chose not to run again for a while and went back to being a Doctor. He ran for president as a Libertarian in '88. He was re-elected to Congress in '96 and has been there since. So, he has taken a break in there for a while and maybe didn't have all that many connections inside there or even wanted them, and has run as an opponent to the two controlling parties. Until recently, almost no one has ever co-sponsored any bill that he authored strictly by himself. He has had bills in the past where he would co-author with Barney Frank, or people on the political left, and that would be the only other co-sponsor on legislation that was written. Recently his Audit the Fed Bill has gotten hundreds of co-sponsors-- the fact that he is so huge on exposing The Fed really makes him no insider to anyone. If the bank is ever restrained from doing what it has been doing, that means a lot of VERY insider-type and well connected people will be receiving a lot less handouts, from Big Oil, to Big Agri, to Big War, to Big Banks, etc.... Don't worry, NPR IS on the chopping block, but it's damn near towards the end of a huge list.
Establishment Democrats and Republicans really never argue against the Fed-- it guarantees that every service can be paid for with printing our borrowing money, and no one ever has to sacrifice more taxes by doing it. Everyone gets to bring home the bacon to their districts and get re-elected under the false pretense that taxes weren't raised, or wealth wasn't re-distributed to do it. That's false. Most of these spending bills end up being financed by debt or an inflation in the money supply which robs all existing money of its value-- and ends up in the hands of the rich, who get to spend the money into circulation-- when it has it's maximum purchasing power. It transfers wealth from the poor to the rich without ever actually pulling the money out of the poor and middle classes' pockets. Inflation, as in the expansion of the money supply that is the primary reason for price inflation, is the tax. Whoever argues that the poor aren't taxed are making omission of the vicious, and hidden form of taxation, that is inflation.
The fact that he advocates dismantling this system, not overnight but by competition in currency, is my main belief as to why being a politician for over 20 years doesn't necessarily make you an insider or an unworthy encumbant. He's also voted consistently, and sometimes has voted alone. I purchased the domain for an anti-encumbant website and never launched it-- but if I did, I had to wonder if I had to put an asterisk for this guy. I might not have, just so it was totally consistent... Who knows, maybe he would have more influence by NOT being in office? Either way, this is why people wish that the electoral process did provide as many choices and was as competitive as the marketplace-- the fact is the two parties have practically legislated this to be so. Paul is not wrong for being a Republican that sticks to the orginal ideas of the party-- its' everyone else who has changed the meaning of Republican. I mentioned this in another thread. Ron Paul going independent would be cool and understood, but why does he have to be the one to change-- like Michael Bolton in office Space, "Why should I change my name? He's the one who sucks."
I think the "machine" does allow them in. They let them into debates, grant them interviews, etc, because they pose no threat, and in fact can be used to their advantage. They pose no threat because they don't have Presidential qualities, and ultimately that's what people want. They also both have views that are too far out of the mainstream, so they will always be marginalized. They are allowed into the political arena in order to create simple categories of voters... "Kucinich liberals/progressives" and "Ron Paul libertarians/conservatives".
Well, if there are enough Ghosts, we will be loud enough for more of the American public to hear. The media has done their job at creating this false image of people like Paul and Kucinich.
I think he does go a little too far by cutting the amount of government that he wants to, but I believe he is needed to restore a lot more power back TO the people and AWAY from our government.
I can't help but singing "People have the Power" when I think about his message of liberty and freedom. He is the only politician that I know of to take on the all powerful Federal Reserve and our military industrial complex. These are the two biggest issues for me.
Its very interesting to see him doing interviews people like Chris Matthews and Eliot Spitzer where they do all they can to marginalize him on some of his unique positions, but no mention of auditing the Fed or bringing home our military empire. I'd like to think most people here would agree to those two issues.
Rand Paul however is an idiot.