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Bin Laden film being made....

Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
edited May 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2011/05/06 ... -edgerton/

Inappropriate, this scumbag does not deserve a film about him.
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  • PARSONSPLACEPARSONSPLACE Posts: 27
    I agree with you 100% why even bother. I only hope nobody watches it!
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Because there was never any movies about Hitler...
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  • EmBleveEmBleve Posts: 3,019
    I saw that on some newsfeed yesterday, too. That is so freaking ridiculous that I can't even put it into words. I hope it never gets done. Hollywood will stop at nothing. :roll:
  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    I have to disagree with you all and before the bashing begins let me tell you why.

    Depending upon how this film portrays OBL..and from the previous title...I would think that most here would be happy with it...

    I DO think we need a film..along the lines of the other bad guys in history films. Or at the very least a well thought out, well presented and interesting documentary..one that the kids will actually watch, and that will stick with us as the years go on.

    And ONE reason is this....

    I was talking with my step-grandson the other day while the OBL news was all over the airwaves. He is 11 years old and finishing up the 5th grade. He has NO IDEA (or at least he didn't before we talked) who OBL is/was...NO IDEA what 9/11 stands for. We were watching people gather at the site of the TT, other people cheering and chanting USA in the streets. He has no idea why.

    I threw out some words and phrases, you know the standards... 911, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan, NYC bombing, planes into the Twin Towers, into the pentagon, hijacked and crashed in PA, Homeland Security, references to the TSA and WHY security is the way it is, the FDNYC....among other things..and asked him what those phrases meant to him...what did I get back..Blank Stares. He is truly clueless.

    I asked him if they talked about any of this in school and he shook his head. He was truly bewildered by the entire thing. THAT, imho, is inexcusable. They don't have to show pictures (and prob shouldn't) or be overly graphic, or use scare tactics..but preteen kids are able to grasp the gist of the whole thing. And they NEED to know about the world around them...the good and the bad. Obviously I can't speak to all schools regarding this, but ours is supposed to be a pretty good district..one of the reasons my kids moved here was to put the grandkids into a good school system....the others are only toddlers, so I have nothing to compare this to. I admit a good part of this falls into the hands of my daughter and her husband, yes, but schools should be teaching current civic and world lessons, no? (I mean, I have the younger boys with me all day every day (ages 2, 4 and 4), and while i surely do not scare them with it, or go into to overtime with details..when they see a photo or news piece about any of the things currently happening in the world, they recognize it...and they ask questions, and they get answers (age appropriate of course). I don't spend a whole lot of time w the 11 yo and had no idea that he was so clueless. QUESTION....are your kids/grandkids in the same boat? I mean with school..not from you).

    Anyway..so that's one reason why I think we DO need a film....a well put together film...documentary style..or at least true to history as its being made (or as we know it).

    Our young people NEED to know. This cannot go by the wayside. It can not disappear with the passage of time.

    It is not over.
    peace,
    jo

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  • EmBleveEmBleve Posts: 3,019
    Well, Stillhere, I can certainly agree with the point that it is very much history and children need to know about it. Is film the appropriate forum for the education of that history?? No (imo). I'm surprised that it isn't taught in schools, or mentioned, or whatever. That said, my boyfriend (who is a bit younger than myself), was I think in middle school at the time of the Columbine shootings....somehow it came up a few weeks ago and he had NO IDEA what I was talking about!! (I am not comparing the two incidents at all, your post just made me think of that). I was, and still, in total shock that he did not know about that. Apparently, that wasn't discussed in schools either, even at the time it happened.
  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    EmBleve wrote:
    Well, Stillhere, I can certainly agree with the point that it is very much history and children need to know about it. Is film the appropriate forum for the education of that history?? No (imo). I'm surprised that it isn't taught in schools, or mentioned, or whatever. That said, my boyfriend (who is a bit younger than myself), was I think in middle school at the time of the Columbine shootings....somehow it came up a few weeks ago and he had NO IDEA what I was talking about!! (I am not comparing the two incidents at all, your post just made me think of that). I was, and still, in total shock that he did not know about that. Apparently, that wasn't discussed in schools either, even at the time it happened.

    I was working in the board office of a very respected school district in NJ on 911 and it was (and rightly so) totally covered up at the time, you know, while teachers stole a moment into the library to watch the news coverage, the library shades were drawn. it was kept very hushed that day..and i understand that. it would have caused a huge panic. some of the children had parents who worked at the twin towers, and so they were right to keep it under wraps in the beginning. and who knew what it would develop into right? afterwards, though, and maybe it was because so many of the children and families were directly impacted, but it was discussed openly and freely, and the history behind the conflicts was also discussed. but that was at the time. i wonder if its in any sort of curriculum in the history or civics classesnow? i would be interested to know. because here, unless my grandson is really really really not paying attention (??), it isn't happening.
    peace,
    jo

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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I hope they cast Jack Black to play him, I really do...
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2011/05/06/bin-laden-film-directed-by-kathryn-bigelow-adds-edgerton/

    Inappropriate, this scumbag does not deserve a film about him.
    Ummm....this isn't exactly an autobiography penned by OBL, with profit going to AL Qaeda....and as long as the whole show isn't praising him as a martyr....what's the big deal? I assume you're outraged that someone will try to profit from the legend of Bin Laden....yet I have never seen you criticize the military industrial complex and their political hawks, nor the news media, all of whom have milked his story for all its worth for over a decade.
    ....would you prefer they get censored?
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2011/05/06/bin-laden-film-directed-by-kathryn-bigelow-adds-edgerton/

    Inappropriate, this scumbag does not deserve a film about him.
    Ummm....this isn't exactly an autobiography penned by OBL, with profit going to AL Qaeda....and as long as the whole show isn't praising him as a martyr....what's the big deal? I assume you're outraged that someone will try to profit from the legend of Bin Laden....yet I have never seen you criticize the military industrial complex and their political hawks, nor the news media, all of whom have milked his story for all its worth for over a decade.
    ....would you prefer they get censored?

    I would prefer no story about Osama. Period.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

    I would prefer no story about Osama. Period.
    That wasn't the question....
    The more concerned citizens like yourself complain about it, the more publicity it gets....so unless your plan is to drum up enough support to have them censored, you're doing them a favour. I hadn't heard about it until this thread, so thanks ;)

    If the last week's media frenzy is any indication, there is def an appetite for info about the guy. I think the biggest curiosity will be where the story starts...and I will probably go see it to find out. Its just a movie man, geez...
  • EmBleveEmBleve Posts: 3,019
    StillHere wrote:

    I was working in the board office of a very respected school district in NJ on 911 and it was (and rightly so) totally covered up at the time, you know, while teachers stole a moment into the library to watch the news coverage, the library shades were drawn. it was kept very hushed that day..and i understand that. it would have caused a huge panic. some of the children had parents who worked at the twin towers, and so they were right to keep it under wraps in the beginning. and who knew what it would develop into right? afterwards, though, and maybe it was because so many of the children and families were directly impacted, but it was discussed openly and freely, and the history behind the conflicts was also discussed. but that was at the time. i wonder if its in any sort of curriculum in the history or civics classesnow? i would be interested to know. because here, unless my grandson is really really really not paying attention (??), it isn't happening.

    Yes, I understand keeping it under wraps at the actual time, no doubt. And I would also be interested to know if it is in the curriculum now; I would think it would be very important in any recent US history context--particularly for somewhat older students, like middle or high school. But, also, like your grandson's age..there must be something that addresses it to a certain degree, I would think (but I'm not a teacher, so I don't know anything about that sort of thing). Aside from the 9/11 subject, what I mentioned about Columbine--it wasn't even discussed in any social class he had a few years later in high school.. I was just flabbergasted about that. Not to mention, apparently, he didn't watch the news, nor was it discussed in his household. I don't know why that shocked me so much, but it did. Equally shocking is if the subject of Osama/recent terrorism is not discussed in schools/included in curriculum (US history) 10 years later.
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    so just because something or someone is unpleasant, it should be swept under a rug???

    Osama bin Laden is (was) one of the most important people of our time... maybe the MOST important. Of course there is going to be film, books, etc made about his life and death.

    Is the reason you're against this because profit is being made off this story? If so, where is the line drawn? Can we now only see comedies and do you propose we outlaw all tragedies??? :?
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    I hope they cast Jack Black to play him, I really do...

    i was thinking mel gibson
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    he still stands wrote:
    Osama bin Laden is (was) one of the most important people of our time... maybe the MOST important. Of course there is going to be film, books, etc made about his life and death.
    He is the focal point of one war, a pretense to another, a key player in a third, and the alleged planner of several terrorist attacks, with reprisals in several countries over multiple decades....sssshhhhh :D
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    PARSONSPLACE wrote:
    I agree with you 100% why even bother. I only hope nobody watches it!
    I'm going to watch it.. Like I watch movies about Hitler, or any other historic figure. These are interesting people. Influential people are interesting.


    Stop being so sensitive. He's dead.
  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    Gob wrote:
    PARSONSPLACE wrote:
    I agree with you 100% why even bother. I only hope nobody watches it!
    I'm going to watch it.. Like I watch movies about Hitler, or any other historic figure. These are interesting people. Influential people are interesting.


    Stop being so sensitive. He's dead.

    i will most definitely watch it. and if the message is right and the truth (so far as we understand it...like it or not) is there, and its not just some overblown propaganda film..i will also encourage my children and grandchildren to watch it ...and discuss it. it absolutely has to be done...i just hope its done right.

    i know that YOU know that...

    He who forgets...will be destined to remember....
    peace,
    jo

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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    CH156378 wrote:
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    I hope they cast Jack Black to play him, I really do...

    i was thinking mel gibson

    haha it will be like Braveheart, there will no doubt be a scene where he gives a pep talk speech to fire up the terrorists.

    And then there is the merch, the figurines!
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited May 2011
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    I hope they cast Jack Black to play him, I really do...

    i was thinking mel gibson

    haha it will be like Braveheart, there will no doubt be a scene where he gives a pep talk speech to fire up the terrorists.

    And then there is the merch, the figurines!

    Ridiculous.

    Did you even read the above article?

    The movie will be about a bunch of U.S soldiers sent to kill Bin Laden. I'm sure the movie will provide Americans with plenty of opportunities to wave their flags and denigrate all Arabs.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Again, wtf are you on about?
    I am not American!!! :roll:
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    Again, wtf are you on about?
    I am not American!!! :roll:

    yeah, well the Aussies had like the 3rd most troops in Afghanistan... slightly more than Poland I think... with a total of SEVEN.
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    People watch anything on tv or in the movies. If Hollywood wanted, they'd make people believe anyone was good or bad. Perhaps we could learn something from the history or his story to better our own selves, compared to just demonizing him... but I guess it's just easier to say black and white in a grey world huh?
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  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    Did any of you see the film Hurt Locker? Same production team and not really a flag-waiving movie, IMO. It put a human side to the struggles of the Iraqi people as well as the soldiers asked to do their job in such a difficult environment. I expect this movie to be the same. It was already being developed before they killed Bin Laden.
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