I love TIME, but this article is foolish....

whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
edited May 2011 in A Moving Train
I cannot believe that my favorite news publication would print an article that I feel is asinine. It is the MEDIA that is making the mistakes in the aftermath of bin Laden's death; it is the "infallible" MEDIA that is the real problem with the flow of information today. This article just really pissed me off.

http://thepage.time.com/2011/05/03/halp ... tion-yahoo

Aftermath can be heck.

The White House’s brilliant conceptualization and execution of the plan to bring Osama bin Laden to justice has, in the last 48 hours, been complicated by mistakes.

No one can question the heroism of the US military, the doggedness of the intelligence community, or the cojones of the President in making the call. But the administration has since made real errors, some with political costs, some with substantive costs, and some with both.

The major errors so far:

1. Not getting its story straight: Was bin Laden armed or not? What woman served as a human shield? Who actually was killed beyond the main target? The administration deserves mountains of credit for its painstaking, conspicuous effort to brief the world on the mission, knowing a lot of information would have to be held back to protect sources, operatives, methods, and sensitive data. Which makes the carelessness of the errors somewhat surprising. The costs: the media coverage sours, the President’s opponents (especially on talk radio) go crazy, other details of the mission unfairly get called into question, and the wild theories of global enemies and conspiracy seekers get a foothold.

2. Not giving George W. Bush enough credit for helping bring bin Laden to justice: Even if the White House believes the previous occupant had nothing to do with OBL’s ultimate demise, it would have been better for national unity and Obama’s own political fortunes if he had gone out of his way to thank 43. His invitation to Bush to join the event Thursday at Ground Zero (an offer declined) was the right idea, but belated.

3. Letting the photo debate get out of control: The decision about whether to release images of a dead bin Laden is not an easy one. But the administration’s conflicting statements and public agonizing has created an extended distraction. The White House has stumbled by violating one of Washington’s iron rules: when something becomes famous inside the Beltway for not being released, the pressure from the media to release it becomes unrelenting.

4. Letting the debate about the war in Afghanistan get out of control: There are signs that some of the president’s advisers are looking to scale back the commitment in Afghanistan sooner rather than later. But by failing to go on the offensive in defining and defending whatever policy the President wants to pursue, the White House has allowed those pressing for an end of the war to use bin Laden’s death as rhetorical leverage.

5. Letting the debate about Pakistan get out of control: The congressional and media demand for a radical change in America’s relationship with Pakistan is burning like wildfire. The administration knows that a shift in policy is complicated and compromising, and not necessarily in the United States’ interest. Stoking the problem: executive branch officials, publicly and privately, are expressing incredulity that the Pakistanis were unaware bin Laden was hiding in plain sight in their country. There should be and will be a debate about all this, but the administration’s actions and inactions is making it less likely it will be on their terms.

Read more: http://thepage.time.com/2011/05/03/halp ... z1LOYagTOi
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  • joergjoerg Austria Posts: 123
    isnt TIME (politically) considered a conservative magazine (more or less)? :?:
    ... wind in my hair i feel part of everywhere ...
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    sounds about right to me. #2 should be #1 though.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    Pretty bad article. The author thinks were in some co-dependent relationship with the White House. I wasn't aware that I was "agonizing" over the photos or that the White House controls public debate on Afghanistan and Pakistan.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,428
    sounds about right to me. #2 should be #1 though.

    He thanked GW and invited him to Ground Zero. What else should he do? Build a monument for him?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    sounds about right to me. #2 should be #1 though.

    He thanked GW and invited him to Ground Zero. What else should he do? Build a monument for him?
    i say we put him on mount rushmore. now THAT is one helluva monument.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    nah, don't want Obama to take us any further in the red than he allready has.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    back on topic, i think that article really sucks. i liked time magazine and had a sunscription back in college, but then they allow things like this article to run. it is very easy to monday morning quarterback, and for this author to talk about national unity being at risk, has he not been paying attention the last few years? there is no uniting this nation. people still don't believe that obama is american for fucks sake, so why would they believe anything that comes out of his mouth. people want to see the pics of the body but then they will criticize that as well. there is not pleasing some people in this country.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,428
    nah, don't want Obama to take us any further in the red than he allready has.

    I laughed, but seriously what else should Obama have done? If GW does not bring us to Iraq we might have been celebrating the death of OBL years ago.
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I have never heard it mentioned on the news, or anywhere for that matter, but if GW doesn't "bring us to Iraq" and we just sat by with Sadaam at the helm, I find it unlikey Egyptians, Libyans, Syrians, etc. would have a shot at using their voice for freedom in the current day. History is already starting to shed a beautiful light.

    Oh, wait, it was twitter and facebook. :?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    edited May 2011
    I have never heard it mentioned on the news, or anywhere for that matter, but if GW doesn't "bring us to Iraq" and we just sat by with Sadaam at the helm, I find it unlikey Egyptians, Libyans, Syrians, etc. would have a shot at using their voice for freedom in the current day. History is already starting to shed a beautiful light.

    Oh, wait, it was twitter and facebook. :?
    so you are saying that it was worth over 5000 american soldiers lives and untold hundreds of billions of american dollars spent to depose a man who was of no threat to you or me or anyone else so those people can have an uprising of their own?

    seriously, what was saddam going to do, help egypt and libyan leaders against their own people? he had his hands full enough with the iranians.
    Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    George Bush couldn't find sand at a beach. He is a fucking retard!!
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