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The judicial and prison system failed here....

Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
edited April 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6046965476

Looks like for some scumbags a death penalty is the only solution.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I think wishing death on someone is just as bad as killing them.

    And before someone says they're guilty (i.e. not innocent), we're ALL guilty of something. Nobody is innocent.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Mr Grant said that when DNA evidence linked him to the attack, Best told police: "I couldn't control the urge.''

    Binde and quater him, he had his day's in court and blew it..twice.
    or should we kiss his ass and put him in a protective cell (so nobody can hurt him) because sure don't want one of those big bad inmates violating his rights, sound about right ? people like this don't need to be given the death penality..just put them in the general population cell's in the prision system and things will work them selfs out,some of the other inmates cant control their urges either. :shock:


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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Godfather. wrote:
    people like this don't need to be given the death penality..just put them in the general population cell's in the prision system and things will work them selfs out,some of the other inmates cant control their urges either. :shock:


    Godfather.

    It's pathetic and barbaric to wish things like this on ANYONE. You really should be ashamed that you're no better than that.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    know1 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    people like this don't need to be given the death penality..just put them in the general population cell's in the prision system and things will work them selfs out,some of the other inmates cant control their urges either. :shock:


    Godfather.

    It's pathetic and barbaric to wish things like this on ANYONE. .
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    know1 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    people like this don't need to be given the death penality..just put them in the general population cell's in the prision system and things will work them selfs out,some of the other inmates cant control their urges either. :shock:


    Godfather.

    It's pathetic and barbaric to wish things like this on ANYONE. You really should be ashamed that you're no better than that.

    :lol: welcome to the real world, and in the imaginary world some people live in what should be done with people tike this guy...rehabilitate ? it didn't work the first time and he had over ten years to figure it out.
    "You really should be ashamed that you're no better than that."[/quote] ???? gimmi a break, I'm not the guy that takes a kick in the teeth very well.
    live and let live right ? or is that only good for people "better than that".
    pathetic and barbaric....hello pot this is kettle. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Godfather. wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    people like this don't need to be given the death penality..just put them in the general population cell's in the prision system and things will work them selfs out,some of the other inmates cant control their urges either. :shock:


    Godfather.

    It's pathetic and barbaric to wish things like this on ANYONE. You really should be ashamed that you're no better than that.

    :lol: welcome to the real world, and in the imaginary world some people live in what should be done with people tike this guy...rehabilitate ? it didn't work the first time and he had over ten years to figure it out.
    "You really should be ashamed that you're no better than that."
    ???? gimmi a break, I'm not the guy that takes a kick in the teeth very well.
    live and let live right ? or is that only good for people "better than that". Godfather.[/quote]

    Did you get the kick in the teeth? If not, why would you be wishing rape and beatings on someone who didn't do anything to you? (Not that it's any better even if it were you who was victimized). It's a bad state of mind to wish bad things on anyone - no matter who they are or what they've done.
    pathetic and barbaric....hello pot this is kettle. :lol:
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I cannot believe what I am reading here.
    Wow....just....wow!

    Godfather thank God people like you exist.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Know1 I just get a kick out of comments you and others make calling people pathetic and barbaric,
    I was laughing because you're quick to use these words to discribe someone whos opinion or ideas of justice are different that yours,what makes us so different that you can use those words to discribe me or anybody else,do you feel that you are in some way better than me or that your opinion or idea's are superior to mine ?
    just for the record my idea of pathetic and barbaric run along the lines of things that this guy who beat and raped 2 young girls in their homes,would you call that "pathetic and barbaric" ? is it pathetic that you would use the word barbaric to diecribe me because of a statement I made on this thread ? ya gotta laugh at the irony...or my spelling LOL!! but don't think too much about it because most of us do it. :lol:

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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I'm not using those words just because you have a different opinion. If someone likes a PC over a MAC, I don't call them barbaric. I'm saying that in this case because that's the way I feel.

    Wishing rape and harm on someone is pathetic. And it's not about them or what they did. It's about YOU wishing that someone would be raped and beaten.

    I can't really see how you can justify it.
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  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    know1 wrote:
    I think wishing death on someone is just as bad as killing them.

    And before someone says they're guilty (i.e. not innocent), we're ALL guilty of something. Nobody is innocent.


    Are you serious? You think having a thought is the same as brutally killing someone and ruining many people's lives? If that's your opinion I respect it but I strongly disagree. I don't think this guy should get the death penalty but I agree with Godfather..just put this guy in general population and let things work themselves out. Why should he get special treatment? Should he get a hug? I won't be hoping that he gets beaten but will at least be glad he won't be able to hurt another innocent victim.

    I also don't think it's barbaric for one to want this guy to experience the hell of what he put those girls through...maybe if he knew how it felt he would be better at controlling his "urges"? His actions are barbaric, not Godfather's opinion.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    isen't odd that people want equal treatment (and I agree with that) untill they are in prision, then at that point some prisiners are put in proctive cell's (rapeist,pedifiles,gay's) all these people are seperated from the general population to protect them no mater what their crime was, the prison in san diego called Donovan state pen has whole areas that house pedifiles to keep them safe from the guy's in GP..while they commited their crime they had the whole country to terrorize rape and kill with no borders, I realize that state has rules for this stuff but just seems kinda odd to give a criminal of such crimes special treatment.

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    know1 wrote:
    I think wishing death on someone is just as bad as killing them.

    And before someone says they're guilty (i.e. not innocent), we're ALL guilty of something. Nobody is innocent.


    Oh bullshit, it is not even close to being the same thing. And while everyone is guilty of something, speeding hardly equals rape/murder, etc.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    cincybearcat wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I think wishing death on someone is just as bad as killing them.

    And before someone says they're guilty (i.e. not innocent), we're ALL guilty of something. Nobody is innocent.


    Oh bullshit, it is not even close to being the same thing. And while everyone is guilty of something, speeding hardly equals rape/murder, etc.


    oooo shyt, you go Girl !!! ;)
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    OK. I'll give that it's not AS BAD as actually killing someone.

    But....there's nothing good or justifiable about advocating someone's murder.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,379
    Try and imagine if one of the girls he raped was your daughter.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    If we wish rape on someone, no matter what they did, isn't that saying rape is okay?
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    keeponrockin wrote:
    If we wish rape on someone, no matter what they did, isn't that saying rape is okay?

    no, it's saying "you fucked with the wrong family" and I wont be happy till you pay...big time.
    what do ya think ? that about sum it up ? ha ha ha ha :lol:

    Godfather.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Godfather. wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    If we wish rape on someone, no matter what they did, isn't that saying rape is okay?

    no, it's saying "you fucked with the wrong family" and I wont be happy till you pay...big time.
    what do ya think ? that about sum it up ? ha ha ha ha :lol:

    Godfather.
    Isn't condoning prison rape/violence just condoning violence? Rape is NEVER okay. Period. End of discussion.
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    off with his head. pick one.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Godfather. wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I think wishing death on someone is just as bad as killing them.

    And before someone says they're guilty (i.e. not innocent), we're ALL guilty of something. Nobody is innocent.


    Oh bullshit, it is not even close to being the same thing. And while everyone is guilty of something, speeding hardly equals rape/murder, etc.


    oooo shyt, you go Girl !!! ;)
    Godfather.

    I hope that was just an expression...I'm no girl. ;)
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cincy; you bet! and ment with all due respect. :D

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    off with his head. pick one.


    :o ......... :lol: LMFO !!!!!

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  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    Better Dan wrote:

    I also don't think it's barbaric for one to want this guy to experience the hell of what he put those girls through

    From what I've read on individuals who commit these crimes, it is true that they (the majority of sociopaths, narcissists, one's who bear no relationship with empathy etc.) can't relate to the pain and suffering that their victims are experiencing during the act of violation. Some even believe that they are helping and/or protecting their victims from some other evil while they invade them, abuse them etc.

    My point is that, new (experimental) treatments with either pictures of their crimes and/or the actual victims present again (rare), are being used now to try and associate the criminal to the feelings of their victims. It has worked in some cases but when your fuked for whatever reason, you're fuked.

    This guy should have never been let out, that's for sure. Not only can I not imagine what it would be like to have a daughter experience such a reality but I certainty can't imagine that the system is any better than a crime. :|
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