The 2013-14 NBA season

Ledbetterman10

The Fixer wrote:

bulls got every call tonight and still couldn't win. game 1 was a bigger fluke than the game 1 of the 2001 finals

I really think lebron will end up having a better career than MJ. He's unbelievable

Even if Lebron finishes with more MVPs, Rings, and money earned (which would be, by definition, a better career), I'd still have Michael ahead of him for some intangible reasons. Going to see Michael Jordan play (which I had the great opportunity to do 12 times in my life...at the Spectrum, MSG, New Jersey, and once when he was with the Wizards) was like going to a rock concert. Or even something bigger than a rock concert. But truly an "event" that was bigger than just a basketball game. Lebron's amazing but he's still just the best guy on a sports team. Michael was a global icon. I bet overseas in the 90's, he was as well known (if not more so) than President Clinton.

I remember my mother would watch the Bulls with me when I was in high school....just to see Michael Jordan. That always stuck with me. Here's a middle-aged woman who's never given a flying shit about a pro-sporting event, wanting to watch just to see one guy. And I bet there were lots of people like that. So even if Lebron passes the stats and rings (I don't think he'll get six rings), the "impact" of Jordan will always trump him...in my opinion.

81

i think mvp's at this point is a foregone conclusion.

rings. i can see him winning a bunch more in miami...they are set up like the bulls of the 90's were. they could win a BUNCH. i don't think 6 is out of the question if they keep the team together.

lebron will most likely pass jordan in most stat catagories, mostly because jordan retired a couple of times and played three years of ncaa ball.

you also have the different era thing going on.

jordan tho, was well liked by fans and the media, where is lebron has been vilified. some deserved, some not.

i would put lebron into jordan's catagory today at this point in his career....and i'm a life long bulls fan, and lebron hater going back to his high school days

The Fixer

81 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

bulls got every call tonight and still couldn't win. game 1 was a bigger fluke than the game 1 of the 2001 finals

I really think lebron will end up having a better career than MJ. He's unbelievable

butler's second foul was a joke.

overall tho, i'd say the refs were solid both ways.

lebron is a beast, no doubt about it. i hate to say it, but he is better now than he was in when he joined miami. and he has been smart and kept his mouth shut. be curious what happens when his contract is up. how old is he now...28 ish? with his size, skill and atheticisisissiism (sp), he can easily play for another 10 years if not a few more. i still don't like the heat, but i can respect his game

yeah man. his offensive game has gotten better in all facets...handle, jumper, post game, passing (helps to have decent players unlike his clev tenure). he is unstoppable....and adept at making teammates better.

I just like watching him play. and I think he is one of the few good guys in the nba. I hope he wins 10 titles (esp since I don't have to worry about the sixers contending while he's at his peak)

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

bulls got every call tonight and still couldn't win. game 1 was a bigger fluke than the game 1 of the 2001 finals

I really think lebron will end up having a better career than MJ. He's unbelievable

Even if Lebron finishes with more MVPs, Rings, and money earned (which would be, by definition, a better career), I'd still have Michael ahead of him for some intangible reasons. Going to see Michael Jordan play (which I had the great opportunity to do 12 times in my life...at the Spectrum, MSG, New Jersey, and once when he was with the Wizards) was like going to a rock concert. Or even something bigger than a rock concert. But truly an "event" that was bigger than just a basketball game. Lebron's amazing but he's still just the best guy on a sports team. Michael was a global icon. I bet overseas in the 90's, he was as well known (if not more so) than President Clinton.

I remember my mother would watch the Bulls with me when I was in high school....just to see Michael Jordan. That always stuck with me. Here's a middle-aged woman who's never given a flying shit about a pro-sporting event, wanting to watch just to see one guy. And I bet there were lots of people like that. So even if Lebron passes the stats and rings (I don't think he'll get six rings), the "impact" of Jordan will always trump him...in my opinion.

lebron has definitely improved in the last couple years. very beastly this evening, obviously. great game.


but he is no michael jordan. come on people. the thinned out talent, and rule changes make it so much more easier for lebron to dominate in today's nba than what jordan dealt with on a nightly basis back in the 80's and 90's.

the stats and rings issue-- aren't comparable either since jordan took 2 years off and spent 3 years in college. he's got a 5 year jump on him right off the bat.

Newch91

Indifference71

What the fuck was Frank Vogel thinking not having Hibbert in the game on that last play? One of the dumbest coaching moves I have ever seen.

pjhawks

Indifference71 wrote:

What the fuck was Frank Vogel thinking not having Hibbert in the game on that last play? One of the dumbest coaching moves I have ever seen.

agree, just a moronic coaching move.

Indifference71

pjhawks wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

What the fuck was Frank Vogel thinking not having Hibbert in the game on that last play? One of the dumbest coaching moves I have ever seen.

agree, just a moronic coaching move.

I just don't see how an NBA coach can think that is the right move at that time. So dumb. :fp: :fp:

pjhawks

Indifference71 wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

What the fuck was Frank Vogel thinking not having Hibbert in the game on that last play? One of the dumbest coaching moves I have ever seen.

agree, just a moronic coaching move.

I just don't see how an NBA coach can think that is the right move at that time. So dumb. :fp: :fp:

he said he worried they were going to run a play for Bosh :fp:

SVRDhand13

pjhawks wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

What the fuck was Frank Vogel thinking not having Hibbert in the game on that last play? One of the dumbest coaching moves I have ever seen.

agree, just a moronic coaching move.

Yep, big mistake. And the analysts after the game defended the call :?

There could have been no 3 second call so why not just have Hibbert under the rim the entire time and force an outside shot?

81

Newch91 wrote:

that should be a flagrent 2

dcfaithful

Big win for Indiana in Miami, and now they're in great position being on their way home. They need to play each game at a time and stress their defense which has potential to be strong and smothering.

Seeing an upset in this series would be exciting.

Ledbetterman10

Ledbetterman10

I don't even like Kareem or the Lakers. No rhyme or reason behind posting that pic other than it makes me laugh.

I'llridethewave

Strong work, Pacers!

norm

JK_Livin

How did the floppers do last night? Let me guess, D-Wade was was bitching that he didn't foul anyone and that everyone fouled him?

Indifference71

JK_Livin wrote:

How did the floppers do last night? Let me guess, D-Wade was was bitching that he didn't foul anyone and that everyone fouled him?

From what I saw of the game, that sounds about right. :fp:

Corduroyboy

norm wrote:

That sign was the best. Whoever was waving it, never put it down. I laughed every time I saw it.

81

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I don't even like Kareem or the Lakers. No rhyme or reason behind posting that pic other than it makes me laugh.

gonna say, pretty random...made me chuckle