The Science Of Consciousness (Greek subtitles)
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What you see while you are awake is death, and what you see while you are sleeping is life. - Heraclitus
Everything we see and perceive in this world is shadows and reflections of their correspondences from the world of ideas. - Plato
The world of our senses is an illusion. - Parmenides
Said by ancient Hellenes (Greeks) 2400 years ago and yet they are still ahead of our time and ahead of our discoveries in quantum physics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg4jnXyqArc&feature=player_embedded
What you see while you are awake is death, and what you see while you are sleeping is life. - Heraclitus
Everything we see and perceive in this world is shadows and reflections of their correspondences from the world of ideas. - Plato
The world of our senses is an illusion. - Parmenides
Said by ancient Hellenes (Greeks) 2400 years ago and yet they are still ahead of our time and ahead of our discoveries in quantum physics.
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They are ahead because they reached the higher levels of consciousness, when those levels are reached, you see beyond time and space so one is not limited to the boarders of our known world while living life.
seeing the straight path, no obstructions. Just a clear wide view of things.
Knowing that at this exact moment, other potentials, other worlds are going on, right now, we just can't see them because we are still stuck in our ego world. Hence the seeking to raise ones consciousness which is what Plato, Buddha and the rest spoke so much about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP-sDrNjUBo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment
and it can happen in an instant, a blink of an eye to realize and wake up,
Lucid dreaming is something very interesting to look at, the realization of knowing where you are, then being able to tap into an ocean of potentials. The power of the mind.
Well we need to return to the singularity, perhaps a sort of Quantum state of singularity.
But I think it will become easier (as we raise our consciousness) to fall into a negative universal consciousness, like a man made algorithm, where is we should be falling into the natural algorithm of life. But again it's about our ego, and our ideas based on that same ego that gets up to walk away from the reality.
+1
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Simply recognizing that there is a universal consciousness is Awareness. Good and bad are equal parts of every potential, for which we must have Acceptance to choose the potential that fits our path at the time. Compassion and Love keeps us grounded through it all.
Give it a go. It's easier than said. Really.
Unfortunately, I don't see that nowadays.
I respectfully disagree.
Interesting. I've often felt more perceptive in my dreams/semi-consciousness. Poems and ideas come to me that I wouldn't normally get.
When you say you don't see it nowadays, what you mean is that you don't see people seeing it, correct ?
If so, then that means you do see it because you see the separation between universal consciousness, the actual reality that exists, and the reality people make outside of the actual reality ... is that not so ?
I think the reason for one thinking that it may be harder than said is because it seems more of the population doesn't have a clue about love & compassion even though we are biologically wired to love and that the external world is what eventually drives that from us or corrupts that in us. One has to have a genuine sense of empathy to succeed in their relationships, at home with loved ones, work, play, and with the universal consciousness. Once you learn (or see) that an actual reality (universal consciousness) exists with or without you (because it does) then if you don't act accordingly to what benefits the collective by choosing to be lost in the external, you have now become the fool. Once you know you know and everyone finds out in one form of another. That now makes it your choice to love all or just love parts of it and yourself. Like it or not, actual reality exists with or without you. You can't change the fuckin universe unless you live with it.
Ever notice that people's disappointment, ignorance, sour moods etc., always follow the times when their needy ? TURN OFF YOUR TELEVISION!
Also, in my opinion & what makes absolute sense to me in the reason most (though I'd like to think less), can't grasp the universal consciousness is the paradox that follows. If indeed we are to resign to the universal because it is the known & it is truly God, the 'brain' if you will, then by knowing that & knowing that it is our choice and not forced upon us, the universal tells us that there is a possibility that we may be greater than the universal. So then, how can one think that the universal is greater & to be submitted too, have faith in ? ha ha
Going to be an interesting day today ...
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Old news. :thumbdown:
STOP YOUR FALSE PHILOSOPHY AND START READING THE ANCIENT GREEK PHILOSOPHERS!
We are biologically wired to mate and survive. Not love (unfortunately).
Sure we are. We're social animals by nature and with that comes caring for one another.
Old news ? huh? Old news would assume that we have gone beyond the news presented and have evolved from it and it is no longer needed to present the issues.
Your 'old news' comment, give or take, is one of the most useless statements I've ever read. It closes the discussion of the actual conversation. Stating it is old news changes the topic to another topic. That now presents me with evidence that you just said it to say it. No thanks, I'm not buying.
Turning off your television is false philosophy ? Um, no it's not because turning off your television is actually beneficial to the human being doing so, making it truth. Believing the ideas projected through your television without evidence and with a sense of urgency for you to conform is where the 'false' occurs.
Are you serious dude, because for someone who states that he has read the greek philosophers, you truly are contradicting what is to be read by reading them ?
I guess that just may be what you do.
One more thing, are greek philosophers not old news ?
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
I may or may not agree with the being wired for love statement. I will admit that I like to think so and that it was an error on my part to just write love. I meant we were wired with empathy & compassion which is what I meant by using the word love. I don't mean the phrase "I'm in love."
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
Yes. I already know your false philosophy.
No. False philosophy is everything else that you said.
Σοφόν το σαφές.
Ευριπίδης, 480-406 π.Χ., Αρχαίος τραγικός
(από τον "Ορέστη")
It is really wise to speak explicitly.
Euripides, ancient tragedian
(from Orestes)
The above is applied to your style of writing.
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BLASPHEMY! THEY ARE DIACHRONIC!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
You're trying to tell me that turning off your television & my false 'everything else' philosophy is older news than greek philosophy on the grounds of how greek philosophy has evolved over time .... LMAO!
You're a funny dude and lost beyond belief
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
Calm down contemporary false philosopher. You are funny and completely ignorant individual.
ignorant |ˈignərənt|
adjective
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated
I am calm ... lol The interpretation of me that you use to fend me off in a complete way is extremely amusing.
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
Open my mind ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
Did you just respond to me for the sake of just responding to me ? I ask this because you certainly do know how to waste another human beings time which evident in your responses throughout this thread. I can't believe I fell for it. A rare occurrence.
1-0 for you I guess.
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
I don't see a conversation like a battle. Instead, I always try to learn something from it. I answered in this way, because I thought that you would wish to learn how I try to open your mind. But, as I can see you are not interested in this kind of information.
zarocat: "I ask this because you certainly do know how to waste another human beings time which evident in your responses throughout this thread."
Pure mean. Bravo. If you think that I waste your time, then just don't post in my threads. Smart eh?
You definitely need to revisit the way you believe you get people to open their minds.
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2
Never give up hope on the 'man' next to you
1998: Barrie
2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
2006: Toronto X2
2009: Toronto
2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
2023: Chicago X2
2024: New York X2