Young Canadians... GET INFORMED & VOTE!!

ShimmyMommyShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
edited April 2011 in A Moving Train
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    first ... get informed ... then vote ... :)
  • ShimmyMommyShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
    polaris_x wrote:
    first ... get informed ... then vote ... :)

    Yes. Thank you polaris_x, my bad for forgetting that. Bad Shimmy...I forgot that most people don't get informed first! There I fixed it all up. ;)
    Lots of love, light and hugs to you all!
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    polaris_x wrote:
    first ... get informed ... then vote ... :)

    Yes. Thank you polaris_x, my bad for forgetting that. Bad Shimmy...I forgot that most people don't get informed first! There I fixed it all up. ;)

    :lol:

    all good! ...
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I'm 20, and excited to be voting for the first time!
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • ShimmyMommyShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
    I'm 20, and excited to be voting for the first time!

    :thumbup:
    Lots of love, light and hugs to you all!
  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    And don't vote conservative! You have the information, now you can vote
    1996: Toronto
    1998: Barrie
    2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
    2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
    2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
    2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
    2006: Toronto X2
    2009: Toronto
    2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
    2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
    2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
    2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
    2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
    2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
    2022: Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
    2023: Chicago X2
    2024: New York X2
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Unless you're able to vote for one of the fringe parties, then you get to vote for corruption. I have no fringe parties here in my riding.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Unless you're able to vote for one of the fringe parties, then you get to vote for corruption. I have no fringe parties here in my riding.
    i'm tempted to write "you all stink"
    on my ballet
    :lol:
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    haffajappa wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Unless you're able to vote for one of the fringe parties, then you get to vote for corruption. I have no fringe parties here in my riding.
    i'm tempted to write "you all stink"
    on my ballet
    :lol:

    I think about brief descriptions to write about the candidates on the ballets all the time.

    'I wish you would all stare at a full day eclipse'
    'You should be stranded on an island naked and when no one is hungry then we'll bring you back'
    'You should all be made to live in homes, made out of the sticky bitumen from the oil sands, hung on the walls as framed monsters'
    'From now on you should all be made to eat via a sling shot'
    'The mafia who you all are waiting in line to serve, should parade you around on leashes'

    My head is full of them ... :lol:
    1996: Toronto
    1998: Barrie
    2000: Montreal, Toronto, Auburn Hills
    2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal
    2004: Boston X2, Grand Rapids
    2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
    2006: Toronto X2
    2009: Toronto
    2011: PJ20, Montreal, Toronto X2, Hamilton
    2012: Manchester X2, Amsterdam X2, Prague, Berlin X2, Philadelphia, Missoula
    2013: Pittsburg, Buffalo
    2014: Milan, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo, Detroit
    2016: Ottawa, Toronto X2
    2018: Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona
    2022: Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
    2023: Chicago X2
    2024: New York X2
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    haffajappa wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Unless you're able to vote for one of the fringe parties, then you get to vote for corruption. I have no fringe parties here in my riding.
    i'm tempted to write "you all stink"
    on my ballet
    :lol:

    Wouldn't it be nice if we had a write in slot or a none of the above box. I winder if those options were present on the ballot would voter turnout go up. I am not buying the low voter turnout to everyone just not caring, I am more in the belief of Haffa that a vast majority don't vote for the simple reason, "they all stink".

    My parents who are in theirs 70's voted all their life have not voted in the last 2 federal elections and the last provincial elections...for the simple fact they are corrupt, crooked bullshitters. Politicians were always corrupt and crooked but over the last 20 years they'd all have been jailed if in the private sector.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    zarocat wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Unless you're able to vote for one of the fringe parties, then you get to vote for corruption. I have no fringe parties here in my riding.
    i'm tempted to write "you all stink"
    on my ballet
    :lol:

    I think about brief descriptions to write about the candidates on the ballets all the time.

    'I wish you would all stare at a full day eclipse'
    'You should be stranded on an island naked and when no one is hungry then we'll bring you back'
    'You should all be made to live in homes, made out of the sticky bitumen from the oil sands, hung on the walls as framed monsters'
    'From now on you should all be made to eat via a sling shot'
    'The mafia who you all are waiting in line to serve, should parade you around on leashes'

    My head is full of them ... :lol:

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I'd be happy if they were forced to live on the wage of an average Canadian for 1 year, or better yet below the poverty level.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    http://regressiveconservative.ca/regres ... -guide.php

    does anyone know how legitimately this works?
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    haffajappa wrote:

    It wouldn't surprise me if the Conservatives won all Alberta ridings, and all NFLD ridings.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le1747999/


    How Parliament would look if only youth voted

    Canada’s youth would elect a Liberal minority government, with a substantial increase in representation for the New Democrats, Bloc Québécois, and Greens, according to projections based on recent polls of Canadians between the ages of 18 and 24. The Conservative Party would be severely reduced, virtually wiped out east of Manitoba.

    An analysis of EKOS polling conducted between July 7 and Sept. 28 suggests the Liberal Party would have the national support of 23.9 per cent of young Canadians and would win 104 seats if only those between the ages of 18 and 24 voted. While that be would be a dramatic increase over the 76 seats the party currently holds in the House of Commons, it would be well below the 155 needed to form a majority government.

    The Liberals lead among young Canadians in British Columbia and Ontario, where the party would earn 27.7 and 31.8 per cent support, respectively. The party would even win a seat in the Edmonton area and elect 58 MPs in Ontario.

    The Bloc Québécois would form the Official Opposition with 60 seats, won with 13.5 per cent support nationally and 39.2 per cent support in Quebec. They would face little opposition in the province, with the Liberals at 19.4 per cent, the Greens at 16.3 per cent and the Conservatives well behind with only 11 per cent support. It would be enough, however, for the Tories to hold on to Maxime Bernier’s seat in the Beauce.

    The New Democrats have the support of 18.4 per cent of young Canadians, which would give them a total of 53 seats. The party would elect three MPs in Alberta, where they have the support of 23.1 per cent of the province’s youth. The NDP would also keep their Outremont riding in Montreal and win 12 seats in the Prairies, where the party leads with 31.6 per cent support.

    The Conservative Party would be decimated, reduced to only 46 seats and 18.8 per cent support nationally. They would maintain only 20 per cent support in Ontario and elect just one MP in the province, while they would be wiped out in Atlantic Canada and place third in British Columbia with 23.1 per cent support.

    With Canada’s youth seemingly uninspired by the country’s two main parties, many throw their support to the Greens. With 22 per cent, the Green Party is the second most popular choice among those aged 18 to 24, who would elect 43 Green MPs to the House of Commons. Most of these would be from Ontario, where the Greens would win 29 seats outside of Toronto and in the southwestern region of the province. The party would also perform well in Atlantic Canada, securing seven seats in New Brunswick and three in Nova Scotia.

    But according to Elections Canada, only 37 per cent of eligible voters between the ages of 18 and 24 exercised their democratic duty during the 2008 federal election, compared to 59 per cent among all age groups. This lack of political engagement of Canada’s youth makes it far more difficult for a party like the Greens to make any headway, and contrasts sharply with the 68 per cent of Canadians over the age of 65 who voted in the last election.

    Based solely on the support of Canada’s most elderly citizens, the Conservative Party would be swept to a huge majority with 192 seats and 44 per cent of the vote, with support levels topping 50 per cent in the western provinces and Atlantic Canada. The Liberals would win 106 seats and 34 per cent of the vote with strong performances in Quebec and Ontario.

    However, the New Democrats and Greens would not elect any MPs and would both be below the 10 per cent mark in national support. The Bloc Québécois would be reduced to only nine seats scattered throughout Quebec, where the Liberals would win 55 seats and the Conservatives ten.

    The political landscape would radically change if the Canada’s youth voted in similar proportions to the rest of the population. Getting them to vote now is the greatest challenge facing smaller parties, since it’s in no way guaranteed young Canadians will feel the same way they do today when they begin to vote in greater numbers over the next decade.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Former MPs say party system ruining Canadian politics: report

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/Former ... story.html
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Former MPs say party system ruining Canadian politics: report

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/Former ... story.html

    partisanship

    drownedout - great article ... if only!!
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Former MPs say party system ruining Canadian politics: report

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/Former ... story.html

    partisanship

    drownedout - great article ... if only!!

    But it's former MP's, why can't current MP's get together and work toward changing the system? hold town hall meetings in their ridings, consult Canadians, like a democracy would do. It doesn't matter if the party system is in place, they'll just break off into groups anyways, albeit smaller and more groups.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    But it's former MP's, why can't current MP's get together and work toward changing the system? hold town hall meetings in their ridings, consult Canadians, like a democracy would do. It doesn't matter if the party system is in place, they'll just break off into groups anyways, albeit smaller and more groups.

    it's because of partisanship ... that's what these folks are saying ...

    but yeah - i agree ... democracy is a good thing when utilized properly ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    But it's former MP's, why can't current MP's get together and work toward changing the system? hold town hall meetings in their ridings, consult Canadians, like a democracy would do. It doesn't matter if the party system is in place, they'll just break off into groups anyways, albeit smaller and more groups.

    it's because of partisanship ... that's what these folks are saying ...

    but yeah - i agree ... democracy is a good thing when utilized properly ...

    The current MP's are probably the only one's who can initiate the change by consulting constituents and holding town hall meetings...I guess we could if enough people rise up and demand change, I don't think thats likely to happen.

    I never understood the backbench MP's anyways, there is more of them than any other MP's, so the cabinet and PM should be taking marching orders from them who in turn get their marching orders from the constituents...

    Like you said democracy is a good thing when utilized properly...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • ShimmyMommyShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
    Do anyone see the Mercer Vote Mobs???? I think this is awesome!!

    Yeah!! Bring it!! Canada needs it!!

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20 ... ection2011
    Lots of love, light and hugs to you all!
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Do anyone see the Mercer Vote Mobs???? I think this is awesome!!

    Yeah!! Bring it!! Canada needs it!!

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20 ... ection2011
    " Conservative MP John Baird told reporters on Tuesday, "I'm not sure what a flash mob is but it sounds a bit disconcerting … I don't know about 'flash' or 'mobs' but I don't like the context of either word." " -cbc
    :roll:
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited April 2011
    McGuinty appeals for someone else to fix health care

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... alth-care/

    The only thing I agree with McGuinty about is yes there should be a debate...as I've had my own family doctor tell me, and a specialist tell me recently could take every tax $$$$ available and still not have enough money. The system is what it is!!! If you're suffering from a life threatening disease you'll get timely treatment, or at least I hope, if you're suffering from pain that requires elective surgery, you'll just have to wait your turn.

    I love the fact that so many people will say they don't want 2 tier health care...folks we already got 2 tier health care...people who can afford it already go to the states for treatment...people who have better financial means see chiropractors, get physiotherapy treatment, seek naturopathic doctors, see optometrist more often can seek help podiatrist and so on, so 2 tier is here...some people are just in denial.
    Post edited by lukin2006 on
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • ShimmyMommyShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
    haffajappa wrote:
    Do anyone see the Mercer Vote Mobs???? I think this is awesome!!

    Yeah!! Bring it!! Canada needs it!!

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20 ... ection2011
    " Conservative MP John Baird told reporters on Tuesday, "I'm not sure what a flash mob is but it sounds a bit disconcerting … I don't know about 'flash' or 'mobs' but I don't like the context of either word." " -cbc
    :roll:


    Well, I, for one, am glad they are doing them. Shows they want to be counted after all. :D
    Lots of love, light and hugs to you all!
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    McGuinty appeals for someone else to fix health care

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... alth-care/

    The only thing I agree with McGuinty about is yes there should be a debate...as I've had my own family doctor tell me, and a specialist tell me recently could take every tax $$$$ available and still not have enough money. The system is what it is!!! If you're suffering from a life threatening disease you'll get timely treatment, or at least I hope, if you're suffering from pain that requires elective surgery, you'll just have to wait your turn.

    I love the fact that so many people will say they don't want 2 tier health care...folks we already got 2 tier health care...people who can afford it already go to the states for treatment...people who have better financial means see chiropractors, get physiotherapy treatment, seek naturopathic doctors, see optometrist more often can seek help podiatrist and so on, so 2 tier is here...some people are just in denial.

    uhhh ... i couldn't stomach this guy's op-ed ... i mean its pretty obvious he hates the liberals and is definitely firmly on the right and hates everything left ... he doesn't even try to show any objectivity ...

    mcguinty was on radio 1 last sunday talking about health care ... he didn't say anything too crazy ... why he feels the need to get involved when he's got his own issues coming up is mind boggling to me ...

    having said that - this kelly copeland is just another guy with the forum to show one-sided pieces without consequence ... that's what op-eds allow ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Tories hit home stretch with 12-point lead over Liberals: poll

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/19 ... rals-poll/
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • ShimmyMommyShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
    edited April 2011
    McGuilty...walk away...just walk away...

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    Post edited by ShimmyMommy on
    Lots of love, light and hugs to you all!
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Oh well...people can take what ever side they want, he is premier been premier for 8 years, it's his responsibility, if he can't handle the responsibility he should step down. 2 tier health care is here has been here for a long time.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    McGuilty...walk away...just walk away...

    thumbnail.aspx?q=598007026244&id=68d6cd3e06a87e36feabae4b9bc03efc&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cartoonstock.com%2flowres%2fpha0446l.jpg

    phe0149l.jpg
    :lol::lol::lol:
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Tories hit home stretch with 12-point lead over Liberals: poll

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/19 ... rals-poll/

    more importantly, their support has dropped since the election ... it would be awesome if we could get the youth vote ...

    that is the main question mark ...

    must prevent a majority!!!!!! ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    McGuinty's an embarrassment to Ontario he whines more than Quebec...and they play partisan politics as much as anyone. Closing a jail built in 1960's in Sarnia so they can built a new one in Windsor which just happens to be where 2 high ranking cabinet ministers are.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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