why is drymounting posters bad?

bambam87

i see people posts saying its a crime to do that to a poster, but why?

Leash_In_Hiding

Drymounting....sounds like a bad sex position :?

vant0037

...because its painful for both people! But seriously, always use a condom kids.



In all honesty..I have no idea what "drymounting" means in regards to a poster, but I'm sure all of my posters are "drymounted."

Lone Drawn Meteor

Misleading thread title!

via http://www.trueart.info/dry_mounting.htm
The disadvantages of dry mounting are that it is not reversible in some cases and not easily reversible in other cases. If it is reversible, it is not reversible in water. The high temperatures often attained in dry mounting may cause bubbling and may prematurely age photographs as well as scorch fabrics. Dry mounting is not generally considered an archival method of mounting.
- Excerpt from ART HARDWARE: The Definitive Guide to Artists’ Materials, by Steven Saitzyk © 1987

bambam87

oh my :oops: i didnt even think about it in that way

but thanx woody

nicky-p38

I think drymounting hurts the value of the poster. The first poster I had framed was Atlantic City Klausen, I took it to a discount frame place, not sure but I think it may be drymounted. It was years ago before I knew anything about it and I didnt specify NO drymount. It looks good and I dont plan on selling it so as long as it doesnt bubble I guess it's ok, but after that I will go to a good framer and make sure no drymount.

bambam87

nicky-p38 wrote:

I think drymounting hurts the value of the poster. The first poster I had framed was Atlantic City Klausen, I took it to a discount frame place, not sure but I think it may be drymounted. It was years ago before I knew anything about it and I didnt specify NO drymount. It looks good and I dont plan on selling it so as long as it doesnt bubble I guess it's ok, but after that I will go to a good framer and make sure no drymount.

i dont plan on selling them either so i guess its ok as long as they dont bubble
thanks

Boxes&Books

Drymounting isn't all that bad- It helps keep posters flat. Some posters are thin and printed on light paper, those can sometimes show waves/lumps while on display. -For example, the 98 LA poster was printed on a thin paper and if not held down properly it will produce waves on the surface---especially with weather conditions.
Some framers can use tape(ouch)- And some will drymount - I know there are certain sprays (drymount) that can be removed with a damp cloth, explore those drymounts. Ask your framer if they think the poster is thick enough to hold flat without anything? or ask him to place some pieces of tape on the back of the poster (four little corner spots). My framer has been around for 40 years and he breaks down for me each time.

Framing should always be a fun experience--- good luck

ahill721

Drymounting consists of the poster being "melted" to the foamcore board. It may bubble, as much as I know, when its on the foamcore board that way, it is there permamently, reducing re-sale value. If you are going to keep the poster forever, not the worst idea ever, but if you may try to sell the poster at a later time, really decreases any value the poster has, and makes it hard as hell to sell.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I blockmount mine. Only the ones I KNOW I'm going to keep. So obviously, all my (2!) PJ posters are bm'd. I'll be doing a Headstones one and my Tool one next.

covered in bliss

Paul David wrote:

I blockmount mine. Only the ones I KNOW I'm going to keep. So obviously, all my (2!) PJ posters are bm'd. I'll be doing a Headstones one and my Tool one next.

They call it plaque mounting here and I've done that to a few posters. It's cheaper than framing them. One is 2006 Gorge.. it's in my new master bathroom and looks fabulous.. San Diego 2008 is in my upstairs hallway. The kids play some weird ball game up there so any type of glass is off-limits.

I have been yelled at for plaqing the gorge!

Had an EV chicago print framed and the top edge is all wavy-looks like shit and annoys me every time I look at it.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

covered in bliss wrote:

Paul David wrote:

I blockmount mine. Only the ones I KNOW I'm going to keep. So obviously, all my (2!) PJ posters are bm'd. I'll be doing a Headstones one and my Tool one next.

They call it plaque mounting here and I've done that to a few posters. It's cheaper than framing them. One is 2006 Gorge.. it's in my new master bathroom and looks fabulous.. San Diego 2008 is in my upstairs hallway. The kids play some weird ball game up there so any type of glass is off-limits.

I have been yelled at for plaqing the gorge!

Had an EV chicago print framed and the top edge is all wavy-looks like shit and annoys me every time I look at it.

and I think it looks better than framing. (no offense to the Hoff!)

bambam87

hoff does some serious shit!!

bambam87

thanks 4 the info guys

Parksy

I know this may be an inconvenience...

but is there anyone on here willing to post a picture of a plaqued / drymounted PJ poster.

I've been debating this very same thing for a while. I have a lot of prints I want to display. And custom framing seems expensive... even with the 50-60% sales... I've thought of plaquing.... but one of my fears with plaquing is the eventual wear and tear (chipping... etc.)

boyo79

Parksy wrote:

I know this may be an inconvenience...

but is there anyone on here willing to post a picture of a plaqued / drymounted PJ poster.

I've been debating this very same thing for a while. I have a lot of prints I want to display. And custom framing seems expensive... even with the 50-60% sales... I've thought of plaquing.... but one of my fears with plaquing is the eventual wear and tear (chipping... etc.)

I'm new to the PJ poster world and want to frame the posters I now have. All this plaque/drymounting has left me confused! Like Parksy says it'd be cool if someone could post some pics of their posters framed, plaqued or drymounted to show the difference and help a novice!

pjtradeking

Parksy wrote:

I know this may be an inconvenience...

but is there anyone on here willing to post a picture of a plaqued / drymounted PJ poster.

I've been debating this very same thing for a while. I have a lot of prints I want to display. And custom framing seems expensive... even with the 50-60% sales... I've thought of plaquing.... but one of my fears with plaquing is the eventual wear and tear (chipping... etc.)

http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/scottiepj/

All of the framed posters in these pics are drymounted.....

covered in bliss

dry mounting is not at all like plaquing or block mounting. dry mounted items are still in a frame under something. Plaquing and block mounting use heat to permanently press the paper onto board.

someone mentioned peeling-- we had a poster plaqued in 1990 and it looks the same today. No visible line where the poster ends and the board begins. I love the matte finish--no real sheen to the poster and a teeny tiny bit of texture.

boyo79

covered in bliss wrote:

dry mounting is not at all like plaquing or block mounting. dry mounted items are still in a frame under something. Plaquing and block mounting use heat to permanently press the paper onto board.

someone mentioned peeling-- we had a poster plaqued in 1990 and it looks the same today. No visible line where the poster ends and the board begins. I love the matte finish--no real sheen to the poster and a teeny tiny bit of texture.

Very nice!

bazzer

Paul David wrote:

and I think it looks better than framing. (no offense to the Hoff!)

Really?!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

bazzer wrote:

Paul David wrote:

and I think it looks better than framing. (no offense to the Hoff!)

Really?!

yes, I like the poster to stand on its own, without something extra (the frame) taking away from it.