The Black Circle Stopped Spinning

not4u10not4u10 Posts: 238
edited February 2008 in The Porch
http://laist.com/2008/02/21/the_black_circl.php

Saw this article that was just posted concerning ticket prices for the solo tour.
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Harsh maybe but there is truth in there.
  • L1quidL1quid Posts: 75
    a) this isn't 1995, ticket prices have gone up
    b) fan club members got a ticketmaster-free price
    c) while i agree that $65 seemed steep for what will probably be, at most, a 1.5 hour show by Vedder, it is probably more expensive to do a short tour than it is a long tour. He will still need a crew, etc. Plus, the opener is coming from New Zealand, and he/they need to get paid.

    On top of all this, let us not forget the band attempting to stay carbon neutral, the rising costs of oil (hello, $100/barrel), and the plummeting/plummeted value of the dollar.

    In my opinion, everything in the world is too fucking expensive. Find something else to complain about besides concert tickets.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Not a bad article... just goes to show how much things change over time....
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  • chromiam wrote:
    Not a bad article... just goes to show how much things change over time....
    $100 a seat to hear......
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  • good article, very good.
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  • L1quidL1quid Posts: 75
    oh and if you're worried about $90 tickets, maybe place blame on the company who is charging a 40% fee?

    you know, rather than the guy(s) who tried to fight that company for three years.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,569
    very sobbering he should read this ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    1995 was 13 years ago. Inflation.

    The cost of gas/oil and electricity is much higher, now.

    Vedder of course wants to make money. He's not in the business for the sake of just being there.

    Vedder (and the rest of PJ members have been very generous in donating money to good causes and I suspect getting a tax break for it). But I think their hearts are in the right place.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    so $65 is too much?

    shit, it is $20 to see a bad cover band... when they start charging $150 a ticket give me a call



    dont forget who gets a piece of the pie... the theater and its crew's payroll, the opener and his crew, ed and his crew, ticketmaster, etc, etc ,etc


    there are a lot of hands in the cookie jar
  • red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    not4u10 wrote:
    http://laist.com/2008/02/21/the_black_circl.php

    Saw this article that was just posted concerning ticket prices for the solo tour.

    Great read. As a poster above me noted, it's kind of harsh, but the truth is told. Honestly, I wouldn't mind paying $90 bucks to see Ed, the show(s) will be memorable. However since I live in Tx, I'd have to travel, and I would be broke cause of all the fees like plane, hotel, food ect.

    I agree with the article, but on the contrary, I have always had this opinion on concerts: If it's too much for me I don't go, otherwise I'll try to make it work.
    As long as people keep paying the ticket prices (even shows that sell $200-300 Seats) then the prices will continue to go up or stay within that range. If people quit going to shows all together (don't see it happening, but it is possible) prices will go back down. We as customers has alot of say in the matter. If we aren't paying, the money, the prices will eventually come down because TM and artists are going to want to make money.
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  • 23232323 Posts: 26
    Awesome article! I have worked in the condert industry before so i can tell you that with those ticket prices, Ed will stand to pocket close to a million dollars, and thats after paying venue, etc. His crew will consist of no more than 2 -3 guys who don't make more than $20-$30hr, plus his travel expenses will be nothing. He obviously has a right to make that kind of money, but put in context, he does not have to charge $65 a ticket. To me it seems he has finally said, "show me the money". Not bitching, just saying...
  • i hope he just cancels the tour just to spite everyone/
  • TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    $65 just to see Ed is a little crazy, I couldn't believe it when I saw it, if it were the entire band, ok, its just hard to believe that they were the same band that fought against high ticket prices in the first place, however I think if they fought ticketmaster today more bands would stand behind them, as well as more fans.
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  • TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    consider also, I just payed $55 for a ticket to radiohead who never tours down here, and probobly didn't profit much off their latest album, so if I could have gotten wiltern tickets both nights would have been close to $180 for a pair, I remember when I got United CEnter tickets in chicago back in 03 for $87! I'm guessing Ed has been talking with Bono
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  • How much does things cost now compared to 95 for me?

    95'
    1) Cigs 2.10 a pack
    2) 20 bucks would be good enoungh to go to the bars on Friday Night. (6 beers and a pack of smokes) change left over for tips
    3) Case of Miller 9.99 at Jewel.
    4) Gas was under $1.25 a gallon

    Present 2k8
    1) Cigs 5.00 bucks a pack
    2) You need at least 40 bucks or more for a Friday Night dive bar. (6 beers and a pack of smokes) hardly anything left for a tip
    3) Case of Miller 16.99 on sale
    4) Gas over 3 bucks a gallon

    Thank god I quit smoking and going to the bars so often.


    Oh yeah ticket prices....

    I paid 65 dollars to see pearl jam in soldier field for 2 tickets in 95.
    Last year I paid $125 to see PJ and Tom Petty

    Yeah, just about everything doubled....
  • TheGossman wrote:
    consider also, I just payed $55 for a ticket to radiohead who never tours down here, and probobly didn't profit much off their latest album, so if I could have gotten wiltern tickets both nights would have been close to $180 for a pair, I remember when I got United CEnter tickets in chicago back in 03 for $87! I'm guessing Ed has been talking with Bono

    http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/10/estimates-radio.html

    and went to #1 at the commercial release:

    http://bumpshack.com/2008/01/11/downloaded-radiohead-tops-billboard-albums-chart/

    and they suck live!

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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I think some of you are being a bit harsh and over-the-top on Vedder, here.

    $65.00 is a bit high, but not ridiculously high like some of you are acting.


    I don't know about anyone else, but I've been getting a feeling that PJ and Vedder have been making a strong push for the last two years with their tours and have been a bit more high profile than usuaul; and that after this they're going to disappear for quite a while.
  • You also have to factor in the success of PJ; The Stones charge what they do cause they are the Stones. U2, the Boss, Mellancamp....etc...all those artists/bands have "earned" the right to charge more.
    And considering PJ is the only band from that era still around, I say they've earned that right as well. Plus, an Ed only show should cost more.....it's super special.

    (just wait til 15 more years and tickets will cost $200 a piece to see a Creed Reunion Show.)

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  • dude, $65 is not a lot of money to see the lead singer of your favorite band. i don't get all of the commo.
  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    It may a be a little high, but as previous posters have pointed out, have you noticed how much higher everything is today compared to 13 years ago! Everything! Gas, oil, electricity, food, cars, books, clothes, ballgames, etc.

    I would gladly cough up the $65 to see Ed if he toured anywhere around here.
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  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    How much does things cost now compared to 95 for me?

    95'
    1) Cigs 2.10 a pack
    2) 20 bucks would be good enoungh to go to the bars on Friday Night. (6 beers and a pack of smokes) change left over for tips
    3) Case of Miller 9.99 at Jewel.
    4) Gas was under $1.25 a gallon

    Present 2k8
    1) Cigs 5.00 bucks a pack
    2) You need at least 40 bucks or more for a Friday Night dive bar. (6 beers and a pack of smokes) hardly anything left for a tip
    3) Case of Miller 16.99 on sale
    4) Gas over 3 bucks a gallon

    Thank god I quit smoking and going to the bars so often.


    Oh yeah ticket prices....

    I paid 65 dollars to see pearl jam in soldier field for 2 tickets in 95.
    Last year I paid $125 to see PJ and Tom Petty

    Yeah, just about everything doubled....

    I don't know about, but even though things are more expensive I am also getting paid a lot more now than I was in 1995.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    dude, $65 is not a lot of money to see the lead singer of your favorite band. i don't get all of the commo.

    I think it's more that the band set themselves up for these kind of pieces when they were fighting for what they believed in back in the 90's.

    I don't think it's that much. I mean Borgata tix were $95 3 years ago and it was a similar size venue.

    So it's a pretty easy story to write if you're a hack writer. "Idealistic" band sells out. Sort of like everyone loves the underground band until they became famous.
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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    I don't know about, but even though things are more expensive I am also getting paid a lot more now than I was in 1995.


    True too.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dude, $65 is not a lot of money to see the lead singer of your favorite band. i don't get all of the commo.


    No, it's not. Comparatively speaking, it's not a lot of money.

    I mean, my buddies and I spend way more than that when we occasionally go out to the Bar/Grill to eat dinner, have a few drinks and sing some Karoakee.

    Look at it this way........

    Would you rather pay $65.00 and see Eddie Vedder doing and rare and special solo concert; singing some of your favorite songs?

    Or would you rather spend much more than $65.00 and sit there with a drink in your hand, a puzzled and confused look on your face; while I massacre some 1970s Elton John, Steppenwolf and The Sweet songs:D:D:D
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    I don't know about, but even though things are more expensive I am also getting paid a lot more now than I was in 1995.

    Good point. I think what's happening here is that the majority of long-time fans of Pearl Jam should be able to afford this. Those broke teenagers who had barely hit 20 when Ten came out are now approaching 40; they've settled into jobs, had families, and more importantly, have probably attained stability for a long while that means promotions, salary increases, etc. etc. The long-time fans have the money now because they've been working the same jobs for the most part for well over a decade. That's why these shows can be priced at this amount; I'm generalizing, but when I look around the venues it seems many if not most PJ fans are middle-aged. They can afford it.

    However, those broke teenagers (such as myself), who got on the train a little while later are left out in the cold, unless mom or dad's paying for them. As a college student, the money's not there like it (hopefully) will be in ten years; I went to an Arcade Fire show for 40 bucks a few months back, and that was a strain. I think alot of people in this situation won't go. I think that is what irks people a little, since PJ also seemed like such a 'blue-collar' band in comparison to bands that charge much more.
  • nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    dude, $65 is not a lot of money to see the lead singer of your favorite band.
    it's not. i've paid more to see bands i care a lot less about in (what i'm sure will be) worse seats, bigger venues...
  • NMyTree wrote:

    Would you rather pay $65.00 and see Eddie Vedder doing and rare and special solo concert; singing some of your favorite songs?

    Or would you rather spend much more than $65.00 and sit there with a drink in your hand, a puzzled and confused look on your face; while masacre some 1970s Elton John, Steppenwolf and The Sweet songs:D:D:D

    hmmm, sounds like a toss up :)
  • Everything's always getting more expensive. At one point in history there were half-cent coins (well here, anyways).

    Wake up and smell the inflation.

    more OT: last show I visited was here in Holland where TicketMaster is like allovertheplacewithsugarontop and I had to pay 46 euro's, which today is 68 USD.
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Um guys, less seats= higher tix prices. Simple as that.
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