With medical insurance being so unaffordable....

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edited April 2011 in A Moving Train
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    edited March 2011
    Insurance is ridiculous. My girlfriend wiped out her life savings and needed help from family after surgery. Her job at the time didn't provide health insurance.. and now because of her pre-existing condition, she can't afford it.

    I've fortunately never had any health problems, have been to a doctor once in my adult life and my job provides a good package, but for everyone else it can be horrible... Actually, i did go to the E.R. once because I had pizza crust stuck in my throat for hours and it would not go down. They charged me $8,000. Had I not had insurance, I would have told them to fuck off and shoved a coat hanger down my throat and done the job myself.


    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can't fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself..
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  • guitar59
    guitar59 Posts: 1,221
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Insurance is ridiculous. My girlfriend wiped out her lifesavings and needed help from family after surgery. Her job at the time didn't provide health insurance.. and now because of her pre existing condition, she really can't afford it.

    I've fortunately never had any health problems, have been to a doctor once in my adult life and my job provides a good package, but for everyone else it can be horrible.


    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself.


    'Tis in Canada. We may not be able to find a doctor and we wait forever for tests and such...but we do not pay more then anyone else. In my province we do not even pay premiums for the universal coverage.
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Insurance is ridiculous. My girlfriend wiped out her life savings and needed help from family after surgery. Her job at the time didn't provide health insurance.. and now because of her pre-existing condition, she can't afford it.

    I've fortunately never had any health problems, have been to a doctor once in my adult life and my job provides a good package, but for everyone else it can be horrible... Actually, i did go to the E.R. once because I had pizza crust stuck in my throat for hours and it would not go down. They charged me $8,000. Had I not had insurance, I would have told them to fuck off and shoved a coat hanger down my throat and done the job myself.


    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ik4f1dRbP8
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,073
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself..
    completely agreed, :clap:

    why can't more politicians be this passionate about something?
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,702
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself..
    completely agreed, :clap:

    why can't more politicians be this passionate about something?

    I guess you haven't heard that universal health care will take us down the path of Socialism and soon after that jack-booted thugs will be marching down the street taking orders from our new dictator. Why should we learn what works in other countries and what could be applied to our system? That would be un-American! The free market will take care of this, all we need to do is open competition across states! Keep an eye on our red menace to the north!
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    Go Beavers wrote:
    I guess you haven't heard that universal health care will take us down the path of Socialism and soon after that jack-booted thugs will be marching down the street taking orders from our new dictator. Why should we learn what works in other countries and what could be applied to our system? That would be un-American! The free market will take care of this, all we need to do is open competition across states! Keep an eye on our red menace to the north!

    You know who loved universal health care? Hitler! that's who!

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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    guitar59 wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Insurance is ridiculous. My girlfriend wiped out her lifesavings and needed help from family after surgery. Her job at the time didn't provide health insurance.. and now because of her pre existing condition, she really can't afford it.

    I've fortunately never had any health problems, have been to a doctor once in my adult life and my job provides a good package, but for everyone else it can be horrible.


    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself.


    'Tis in Canada. We may not be able to find a doctor and we wait forever for tests and such...but we do not pay more then anyone else. In my province we do not even pay premiums for the universal coverage.

    :lol:
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    aerial wrote:
    guitar59 wrote:
    'Tis in Canada. We may not be able to find a doctor and we wait forever for tests and such...but we do not pay more then anyone else. In my province we do not even pay premiums for the universal coverage.

    :lol:

    Which is different from not being treated for lack of coverage, or being in debt forever because without insurance things cost 10 times more, I'll take canadian universal healthcare any day of the week.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,073
    guitar59 wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Insurance is ridiculous. My girlfriend wiped out her lifesavings and needed help from family after surgery. Her job at the time didn't provide health insurance.. and now because of her pre existing condition, she really can't afford it.

    I've fortunately never had any health problems, have been to a doctor once in my adult life and my job provides a good package, but for everyone else it can be horrible.


    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself.


    'Tis in Canada. We may not be able to find a doctor and we wait forever for tests and such...but we do not pay more then anyone else. In my province we do not even pay premiums for the universal coverage.
    yes but if you are dying or have a life threatening illness you will be treated more quickly. as it should be.
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    yes but if you are dying or have a life threatening illness you will be treated more quickly. as it should be.

    :thumbup:
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    I just got back from the doctor today.
    I waited 20 minutes to see him.

    Big whoop.
    Got 2 prescriptions which were covered under my mom's healthcare.

    Who's laughin now.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,073
    arq wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    yes but if you are dying or have a life threatening illness you will be treated more quickly. as it should be.

    :thumbup:
    seriously though. if you need a fucking sports preparticipation physical exam you should be behind those people with more serious medical issues, since a sports preparticipation exam is not an emergency. even in the US those aren't covered by insurance 90% of the time because they are considered "well visits", meaning "this patient is not sick and has no physical ailments, therefore not an emergency situation, therefore not at the front of the line"...
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  • Suzi78
    Suzi78 Posts: 362
    I come from the great socialist country of Sweden. Growing up, we only had two (state owned of course) tv channels and 3 types of cereals. It was tough. Anyways...my mom's husband just had shoulder replacement surgery. It cost him a total of $45, which is for the three days that he spent at the hosptial ($15/day). Downside? He had to wait 6 months to have his surgery.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,702
    Suzi78 wrote:
    I come from the great socialist country of Sweden. Growing up, we only had two (state owned of course) tv channels and 3 types of cereals. It was tough. Anyways...my mom's husband just had shoulder replacement surgery. It cost him a total of $45, which is for the three days that he spent at the hosptial ($15/day). Downside? He had to wait 6 months to have his surgery.

    I was in Sweden back when and remember the timer on the t.v. counting down to the next show. How I wish we had the same in the U.S. Now, thankfully someone invented the DVR!
  • Suzi78
    Suzi78 Posts: 362
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Suzi78 wrote:
    I come from the great socialist country of Sweden. Growing up, we only had two (state owned of course) tv channels and 3 types of cereals. It was tough. Anyways...my mom's husband just had shoulder replacement surgery. It cost him a total of $45, which is for the three days that he spent at the hosptial ($15/day). Downside? He had to wait 6 months to have his surgery.

    I was in Sweden back when and remember the timer on the t.v. counting down to the next show. How I wish we had the same in the U.S. Now, thankfully someone invented the DVR!

    Hahaha, I'd almost forgotten about that timer! And there was always some type of background bird sound. No commercials back then, so in between shows all we would see was that clock ticking...ticking......all paid for by the obedient tax payers. Ahhhh...great times!

    Here it is!
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    guitar59 wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Insurance is ridiculous. My girlfriend wiped out her lifesavings and needed help from family after surgery. Her job at the time didn't provide health insurance.. and now because of her pre existing condition, she really can't afford it.

    I've fortunately never had any health problems, have been to a doctor once in my adult life and my job provides a good package, but for everyone else it can be horrible.


    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself.


    'Tis in Canada. We may not be able to find a doctor and we wait forever for tests and such...but we do not pay more then anyone else. In my province we do not even pay premiums for the universal coverage.
    yes but if you are dying or have a life threatening illness you will be treated more quickly. as it should be.

    This has been my experience. If you have something non-life threatening (bad knees, etc..) it could be a while, however, any family member that has needed emergency surgery (i.e my uncle had triple bypass, my grandfather cancer) they were treated right away and had no complaints about the system.

    ANDDDD nobody's going to lose their house due to being sick.

    Can someone against universal health care please explain to me why it's okay that someone goes bankrupt because they get sick?
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Can someone against universal health care please explain to me why it's okay that someone goes bankrupt because they get sick?[/b]

    that's easy, because only people with money deserve to live, other kind of people are just a burden to society :cry:
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,702
    Health insurance NEEDS to be universal. It needs to cost the same for everyone. It's one of those things we can fuck around with and if you don't agree with me, this is one of those rare arguments I will just flat out tell you to go fuck yourself.[/quote]


    'Tis in Canada. We may not be able to find a doctor and we wait forever for tests and such...but we do not pay more then anyone else. In my province we do not even pay premiums for the universal coverage.[/quote]
    yes but if you are dying or have a life threatening illness you will be treated more quickly. as it should be.[/quote]

    This has been my experience. If you have something non-life threatening (bad knees, etc..) it could be a while, however, any family member that has needed emergency surgery (i.e my uncle had triple bypass, my grandfather cancer) they were treated right away and had no complaints about the system.

    ANDDDD nobody's going to lose their house due to being sick.

    Can someone against universal health care please explain to me why it's okay that someone goes bankrupt because they get sick?    [/quote]

    They can't, so they wont respond to this question.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,073
    Suzi78 wrote:
    I come from the great socialist country of Sweden. Growing up, we only had two (state owned of course) tv channels and 3 types of cereals. It was tough. Anyways...my mom's husband just had shoulder replacement surgery. It cost him a total of $45, which is for the three days that he spent at the hosptial ($15/day). Downside? He had to wait 6 months to have his surgery.
    $45 for a new shoulder. amazing.

    off topic, they have come out with some amazing replacement joints in the last couple of years and some of them are really technologically advanced. unfortunately some of those products or procedures are not approved by the FDA for one reason or another and private insurance companies here in the states will never pay for something that is not FDA approved.... Dr. Lars Petersen in Sweden in particular is at the forefront of some of these new techniques...
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    arq wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Can someone against universal health care please explain to me why it's okay that someone goes bankrupt because they get sick?[/b]

    that's easy, because only people with money deserve to live, other kind of people are just a burden to society :cry:
    You're forgetting my favourite one...
    Health care isn't a right.


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