Great Moments in Presidential Debate History.

CH156378

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/system/ico ... 1250828056

This still freaks me out.

BinauralJam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAUcyfKESts

Evidence

CH156378

BinauralJam

i'm scared that was a history turning moment. God i hope i'm wrong.

AndySlash

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CH156378

the gore bush debates were classic. al gore with his constant sighing and talk of lock boxes. and bush. well bush just not knowing anything about anything.

Pepe Silvia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrXXa1_o ... re=related

weenie

Thanks for these guys. I haven't had a good laugh at Bush in a while! Poor guy, can't live on his ranch bc the Feds were afraid someone would kill him. So he moved to a posh Dallas suburb and someone tries to kill him. He just didn't take himself seriously enough!

whygohome

CH156378 wrote:

the gore bush debates were classic. al gore with his constant sighing and talk of lock boxes. and bush. well bush just not knowing anything about anything.

How did he win.....twice? How?

Jason P

whygohome wrote:

CH156378 wrote:

the gore bush debates were classic. al gore with his constant sighing and talk of lock boxes. and bush. well bush just not knowing anything about anything.

How did he win.....twice? How?

Easy answer. Al Gore and John Kerry were his opponents.

whygohome

Jason P wrote:

whygohome wrote:

CH156378 wrote:

the gore bush debates were classic. al gore with his constant sighing and talk of lock boxes. and bush. well bush just not knowing anything about anything.

How did he win.....twice? How?

Easy answer. Al Gore and John Kerry were his opponents.

But...but......

weenie

whygohome wrote:

CH156378 wrote:

the gore bush debates were classic. al gore with his constant sighing and talk of lock boxes. and bush. well bush just not knowing anything about anything.

How did he win.....twice? How?

Ever hear of hanging chads.........
Florida GAVE it to him the first time.
The second time was dumb, and I do mean dumb luck.

CH156378

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzA9LfM ... ure=relmfu

Pepe Silvia

weenie wrote:

whygohome wrote:

CH156378 wrote:

the gore bush debates were classic. al gore with his constant sighing and talk of lock boxes. and bush. well bush just not knowing anything about anything.

How did he win.....twice? How?

Ever hear of hanging chads.........
Florida GAVE it to him the first time.
The second time was dumb, and I do mean dumb luck.

actually, the 1st time was because of the supreme court. florida law said there HAD to be a recount but the republicans went to court to overrule state law....then a year or so later when the democrats went to court to try and block the california governor recall the republicans cried that you can't use the judicial system to overrule state law.....go figure

weenie

weenie wrote:

Ever hear of hanging chads.........
Florida GAVE it to him the first time.
The second time was dumb, and I do mean dumb luck.

Pepe Silvia wrote:

actually, the 1st time was because of the supreme court. florida law said there HAD to be a recount but the republicans went to court to overrule state law....then a year or so later when the democrats went to court to try and block the california governor recall the republicans cried that you can't use the judicial system to overrule state law.....go figure

weenie wrote:

Katherine Harris, State's Attorney General, had ordered that a recount of the votes from Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties occur due to "irregularities". At the time, my mother lived in a huge senior citizens development in Broward county. All of their votes were "lost" somewhere between the community facility for the development, and the post office. (the seniors cast absentee ballots so they wouldn't have to stand in line at the polls). The use of butterfly votes in Palm Beach County brought about the hanging chad challenge. With the recount from Dade and Broward, and the count of absentee ballots that could be located, Ms. Harris declared Bush a winner over Gore by 937 votes. Palm Beach did not meet the deadline due to problems determing which candidate the "chad" represented, and reported their results too late to be included in the initial count. When hose results were eventually included, supposedly the lead for Bush changed to 537 votes.

The legal challenge to the recount became a moot point. The REAL issue was the fact that no true winner could ever be determined due to the poor manner through which votes were cast, and counted, in some counties - creating the worst debacle known in American history regarding the election of this country's leader. People were actually guessing at which candidate was chosen on butterfly votes.

The selection process was as ludicrous as the presidency itself.

Pepe Silvia

weenie wrote:

weenie wrote:

Ever hear of hanging chads.........
Florida GAVE it to him the first time.
The second time was dumb, and I do mean dumb luck.

Pepe Silvia wrote:

actually, the 1st time was because of the supreme court. florida law said there HAD to be a recount but the republicans went to court to overrule state law....then a year or so later when the democrats went to court to try and block the california governor recall the republicans cried that you can't use the judicial system to overrule state law.....go figure

weenie wrote:

Katherine Harris, State's Attorney General, had ordered that a recount of the votes from Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties occur due to "irregularities". At the time, my mother lived in a huge senior citizens development in Broward county. All of their votes were "lost" somewhere between the community facility for the development, and the post office. (the seniors cast absentee ballots so they wouldn't have to stand in line at the polls). The use of butterfly votes in Palm Beach County brought about the hanging chad challenge. With the recount from Dade and Broward, and the count of absentee ballots that could be located, Ms. Harris declared Bush a winner over Gore by 937 votes. Palm Beach did not meet the deadline due to problems determing which candidate the "chad" represented, and reported their results too late to be included in the initial count. When hose results were eventually included, supposedly the lead for Bush changed to 537 votes.

The legal challenge to the recount became a moot point. The REAL issue was the fact that no true winner could ever be determined due to the poor manner through which votes were cast, and counted, in some counties - creating the worst debacle known in American history regarding the election of this country's leader. People were actually guessing at which candidate was chosen on butterfly votes.

The selection process was as ludicrous as the presidency itself.

i agree, but florida law says if an election is decided by a certain amount, i think it was <0.5%?, there must be a statewide recount. there's just far too much shit that went on in florida from chads to selective recounts, to people doing their best to sabotage it to people being denied their right to vote....

i remember when it was all going on and so many called gore a crybaby, why the hell shouldn't we be absolutely certain???

Go Beavers

i agree, but florida law says if an election is decided by a certain amount, i think it was <0.5%?, there must be a statewide recount. there's just far too much shit that went on in florida from chads to selective recounts, to people doing their best to sabotage it to people being denied their right to vote....

i remember when it was all going on and so many called gore a crybaby, why the hell shouldn't we be absolutely certain???[/quote]

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That was one of the many frustrating parts of this. The press declared bush the winner of Florida, so then it looked like Gore was a whiner and "Sore Loserman". If you've noticed, it looks like the press has been slower to call states since then. They also wait to call states until polls are closed on the West coast. It was a perfect intro for Bush and the following 8 year debacle. I think the history books will do a good job on this situation as well as Bush's f-ups.

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weenie

Pepe Silvia wrote:

actually, the 1st time was because of the supreme court. florida law said there HAD to be a recount but the republicans went to court to overrule state law....then a year or so later when the democrats went to court to try and block the california governor recall the republicans cried that you can't use the judicial system to overrule state law.....go figure

weenie wrote:

Katherine Harris, State's Attorney General, had ordered that a recount of the votes from Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties occur due to "irregularities". At the time, my mother lived in a huge senior citizens development in Broward county. All of their votes were "lost" somewhere between the community facility for the development, and the post office. (the seniors cast absentee ballots so they wouldn't have to stand in line at the polls). The use of butterfly votes in Palm Beach County brought about the hanging chad challenge. With the recount from Dade and Broward, and the count of absentee ballots that could be located, Ms. Harris declared Bush a winner over Gore by 937 votes. Palm Beach did not meet the deadline due to problems determing which candidate the "chad" represented, and reported their results too late to be included in the initial count. When hose results were eventually included, supposedly the lead for Bush changed to 537 votes.

The legal challenge to the recount became a moot point. The REAL issue was the fact that no true winner could ever be determined due to the poor manner through which votes were cast, and counted, in some counties - creating the worst debacle known in American history regarding the election of this country's leader. People were actually guessing at which candidate was chosen on butterfly votes.

The selection process was as ludicrous as the presidency itself.

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i agree, but florida law says if an election is decided by a certain amount, i think it was <0.5%?, there must be a statewide recount. there's just far too much shit that went on in florida from chads to selective recounts, to people doing their best to sabotage it to people being denied their right to vote....

i remember when it was all going on and so many called gore a crybaby, why the hell shouldn't we be absolutely certain???[/quote]


I agree, it really set a precedent for a lot of shenanigans to be allowed to go on with one of our most important rights. The thing that scared me is that no one seemed to mind all the flakey activity affecting votes. The right to vote is the basis of a democracy. It was the beginning of many actions that made a mockery of our constitutional rights.

CH156378

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ffbFvKl ... E4EB19FEF5

Watch Bush check his watch right at the begining, then it gets real weird.