Grunge - The Deadliest Genre?

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    sorry man...just cause someone in the guardian posted this story don't mean a lot to me, the effects of foreign chemicals put into the body may not be known yet or these guys are just looking for any reason to get high and feel good about them selfs.

    Godfather.

    It has nothing to do with anyone writing about it in the Guardian. If you have an issue with it then take it up with the Harvard Medical School who carried out the research.


    I'm sure like anything else, even water, there is still a level that is too much, did they determine what levels were safe for daily intake or what?

    Also, how long was the study? regarding the potential impact of long term use and chronic effects?

    I mean, even to take Aspirin everyday you should consult your dr first.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited March 2011
    Godfather. wrote:
    still can't buy it.

    Godfather, despite the largest study thus far carried out into the effects of the drug which proves ecstacy has no detrimental effects, you still can't buy it? Why would you prefer to take tabloid sensationalism and fear-mongering over hard facts and science?



    Edit: By the way, have you never taken ecstacy before? It's my favourite drug of choice. You should give it a go sometime. :mrgreen:
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  • If you take out the people murdered for hire by Courtney Love, it's probably safer than air travel.
  • Attaway77Attaway77 Posts: 3,257
    Life is the deadliest genre, we kill each other while killing our ownselves...
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    still can't buy it.

    Godfather, despite the largest study thus far carried out into the effects of the drug which proves ecstacy has no detrimental effects, you still can't buy it? Why would you prefer to take tabloid sensationalism and fear-mongering over hard facts and science?



    Edit: By the way, have you never taken ecstacy before? It's my favourite drug of choice. You should give it a go sometime. :mrgreen:
    Byrnzie...do you have a link to the actual study? At the risk of agreeing with Godfather over you (which in the course of human history has never happened) I'd like to see what it really says. I'm not saying either way what I believe in terms of X, but I can say that I started doing obesity research about a year ago and found out most of the studies on it are a bunch of bullshit. Many are funded by pharmaceutical companies that benefit when people are afraid to be fat, or others find what they want to find because that's how you get tenure in the "hard" sciences. Another instance where this is the case is the cell phone studies on how more people are driving distracted because of them. My sister was doing one as an undergrad/pre-master's student with her professor and literally couldn't finish it because of all the bullshit that came before her study that they were basing their work on. As Michael Gard (author of the The End of the Obesity Epidemic) might say, the situation is often more complex than a simple causal answer (ie. X is bad for you/X is not bad for you). Maybe some people's brains can handle it, and others can't, but it's a blend of genetics, the type of X you get, and so on. As a champion of qualitative research I have a difficult time with "hard" science and "proven" answers - but I could just not be getting it.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    still can't buy it.

    Godfather, despite the largest study thus far carried out into the effects of the drug which proves ecstacy has no detrimental effects, you still can't buy it? Why would you prefer to take tabloid sensationalism and fear-mongering over hard facts and science?



    Edit: By the way, have you never taken ecstacy before? It's my favourite drug of choice. You should give it a go sometime. :mrgreen:

    sorry bro it has nothing to do with tabloid sensationalism or fear-mongering, I was partying in the 70's and "THEY" said the same thing about LSD and "THEY" were wrong come to find out.
    I just can't believe that something ingested or administered that is totally foreign to your body will eventually have no ill side effects not to mention what can happen while a person is high and not able to make rational
    discussions or judgment calls (driving,overdosing etc,)

    Godfather.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Attaway77 wrote:
    Life is the deadliest genre, we kill each other while killing our ownselves...


    whoa... dude. 8-):lol:
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Byrnzie wrote:
    ed243421 wrote:
    i like drugs, but you got to know if your doing heroin, it will kill you at some point.

    tell that to keith richards

    And Iggy.

    And Nick Cave.



    they just stopped before it killed them. 8-)
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
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