Tobacco displays to be banned from shops
nuffingman
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Tobacco displays in shops will be banned in England as part of a package of measures to discourage smoking.
Instead, cigarettes and other products will have to be kept under-the-counter from 2012 for large stores and 2015 for small shops, ministers have announced.
I've no problem with this. I admit I like a cigar now and again always smoked in the garden so nobody can complain about second hand smoke. I just laugh at the narrow mindedness of it all. According to figures available, and I admit they seem to differ wherever you look the NHS spends more on obesity and more on alcohol related health problems than it does on smoking related problems. Where though are the "alcohol can kill" labels on alcohol bottles, or fast food packaging. Smoking adverts are banned but the alcohol adverts still keep rolling along.
I think we've become so conditioned to the evils of the dreaded ciggy preaching that it's probably a better vote earner.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12680815
Instead, cigarettes and other products will have to be kept under-the-counter from 2012 for large stores and 2015 for small shops, ministers have announced.
I've no problem with this. I admit I like a cigar now and again always smoked in the garden so nobody can complain about second hand smoke. I just laugh at the narrow mindedness of it all. According to figures available, and I admit they seem to differ wherever you look the NHS spends more on obesity and more on alcohol related health problems than it does on smoking related problems. Where though are the "alcohol can kill" labels on alcohol bottles, or fast food packaging. Smoking adverts are banned but the alcohol adverts still keep rolling along.
I think we've become so conditioned to the evils of the dreaded ciggy preaching that it's probably a better vote earner.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12680815
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i think you nailed it.
I wish that politicians anywhere would grow the balls to just make it illegal to smoke. Seriously, they keep putting all these regulations out there...wouldn't it just be easier to prohibit smoking?
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
This should be done, but it never will.
Or, people could just be smart enough not so smoke.
I sure would have liked to have freedom from all the second hand smoke I endured as a child.
I sure would love to have freedom from the lung issues I deal with now.
One's freedom is another's death sentence.
im thinking about taking up swinging a spiked ball on a chain around my head. i know it might hurt some people near me... but whatever... i like it and they can stand somewhere else.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
unfortunately the latter is never the case... bus stops, outside my store where it bothers my customers too, wherever... i'm so sick of it. people's right to not smoke should trump those who want to smoke. i'll prob get flamed for that but whatever.
In the US cost of obesity $147billion per year
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/ ... 975&page=1
Cost of smoking $157billion
http://ww2.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/conte ... h_Year.asp
I've no idea what the attitude is in the States but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the smokers that are targetted the most.
Godfather.
I think public masturbation should be legal, but not around children of course. It's not hurting you any. If you don't like me wanking in public don't come around me.
Now clearly I'm being sarcastic, but golly, what a slippery slope with the marijuana talk. If it's not broke don't fix it, and right now I'd say things are getting along swell without marijuana or public masturbation.
and anger go hand in hand?
is it that the smokers know that they were targeted and caught
like fish in a barrell
by an industry that created a product
that was "enhanced" with many poisons
that will drastically reduce the life-span of its users,
but they can't stop using it?
smokers, please do not get angry at non-smokers,
focus your anger on the truth,
a product you buy everyday is killing you
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Anytime me and my wife go out and someone is wearing perfume / fragrance she get a serious asthma attack, a couple of times we have had to use an empi pen.
Ones freedom is anothers death sentence :roll:
I am always curious about those studies regarding the cost of smoking. I mean sure it is easy to say that the medical bills from smoking related illnesses are this much and therefore that is how much smoking costs. But at the same time the life expectancy for a smoker is significantly lower than for that of a non-smoker. So sure while a smoker might have medical costs associated with lung cancer or emphysema at 50, they are probably not going to live until they are 80. So if they don't live unto their 80's they aren't going to collect as much security and retirement benefits from the government that they have paid into, and they probably aren't going to be hospitalized for other old age related problems like dementia or a broken hip (which are a big cost, especially since if the elderly are admitted to the hospital for something it takes a long time for them to recover) or having to live in a nursing home. So if you deduct those costs, that wouldn’t be spent on a smoker who dies before he or she retires, what is the real cost of smoking?
I think that assessment is a little off the mark. The ones that usually die young from a single attack, like a heart attack or stroke are usually people that are morbidly obese. Smoking deteriorates the body and smokers on average do die younger than non smokers, but the average smoker isn't dying at 50. Usually their bodies act just like an old car and nickel and dime their way into old age. No immune system from smoking equals more colds, more infections, emphysema, clotting problems. Smokers can live to an advanced age, their quality of life is usually just very low. I'd say the whole die young and take what's left off the top from my hospital bill is a bunk theory.
could be because of the constant bashing smokers receive from alot of the non smokers.
so if you non smokers will get off our (smokers) ass's we can all play together nicely.
Godfather.
I don't think it would be better. Look at the amount of taxes made off of tobacco products, it'd be a major loss of revenue, which would have to be made up somewhere.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
However obesity and alcohol which cost our NHS more than smoking are mentioned almost as a side issue. Nobody has ever explained to me why cigarette packets have "SMOKING KILLS" printed on them and pictures of diseased lungs etc but a whisky bottle doesn't have health warnings and pics of knackered livers printed on them. Binge drinking and alcoholism is a major problem over here.
At least around where I live, I see it a lot. Which is good... This whole saturating yourself with Axe is really getting old.
hopefully they won't take away my Old Spice "Afterhours" spray away from me.
Is this the true cost of smoking? Meaning is this the amount of money it costs after you take into account the tax revenue made on cigs? In most countries the cost to the tax payer is less than the tax revenue made...