Supreme Court Ruled in Favor of Westboro Baptist Church

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edited March 2011 in A Moving Train
Un-freakin-believable! :evil:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110302/ap_ ... l_protests

High court rules for military funeral protesters

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount attention-getting, anti-gay protests outside military funerals.

The court voted 8-1 in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan. The decision upheld an appeals court ruling that threw out a $5 million judgment to the father of a dead Marine who sued church members after they picketed his son's funeral.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the opinion for the court. Justice Samuel Alito dissented.

"What Westboro said, in the whole context of how and where it chose to say it, is entitled to 'special protection' under the First Amendment," Roberts wrote, "and that protection cannot be overcome by a jury finding that the picketing was outrageous."

Matthew Snyder died in Iraq in 2006 and his body was returned to the United States for burial. Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, who have picketed military funerals for several years, decided to protest outside the Westminster, Md., church where Snyder's funeral was to be held.

The Rev. Fred Phelps and other family members who make up most of the Westboro Baptist Church have picketed many military funerals in their quest to draw attention to their incendiary view that U.S. deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq are God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

They showed up with their usual signs, including "Thank God for dead soldiers," "You're Going to Hell," "God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11," and one that combined the U.S. Marine Corps motto, Semper Fi, with a slur against gay men.

The church members drew counter-demonstrators, as well as media coverage and a heavy police presence to maintain order. The result was a spectacle that led to altering the route of the funeral procession.

Several weeks later, Albert Snyder was surfing the Internet for tributes to his son from other soldiers and strangers when he came upon a poem on the church's website that attacked Matthew's parents for the way they brought up their son.

Soon after, Albert Snyder filed a lawsuit accusing the Phelpses of intentionally inflicting emotional distress. He won $11 million at trial, later reduced by a judge to $5 million.

The federal appeals court in Richmond, Va., threw out the verdict and said the Constitution shielded the church members from liability.

Forty-eight states, 42 U.S. senators and veterans groups sided with Snyder, asking the court to shield funerals from the Phelps family's "psychological terrorism."

While distancing themselves from the church's message, media organizations, including The Associated Press, urged the court to side with the Phelps family because of concerns that a victory for Snyder could erode speech rights.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I agree with this ruling. Free speech should be protected at all costs.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    I agree with this ruling. Free speech should be protected at all costs.


    Unfortunately, I agree.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    BinFrog wrote:
    I agree with this ruling. Free speech should be protected at all costs.


    Unfortunately, I agree.
    There's a great Hitchens speech on youtube about why it should be protected.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Hg-Y7MugU
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    It's surprising that no military men turn up to give these freaks a good hiding.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    It's surprising that no military men turn up to give these freaks a good hiding.

    no kidding. If that was my brother, son, father, etc... those people would be in the hospital and I'd be in jail.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    BinFrog wrote:
    I agree with this ruling. Free speech should be protected at all costs.


    Unfortunately, I agree.


    :thumbup: even when you wana hurt the bastards
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Now that legal means have been exhausted, it's time to call the A-Team for vigilante justice. :twisted:
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  • bennett13bennett13 Posts: 439
    Interesting how Roberts and Alito disagree here. To quote Chuck Berry, "goes to show you never can tell."
  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's surprising that no military men turn up to give these freaks a good hiding.

    I was just telling my wife that exact same thing this morning. The bikers that guard these funerals, I'm surprised some of them don't think it's worth doing a little time just to shut them up. I'm sure that there's a big part of this group that hopes people turn violent towards them, so no matter what, you can't really win here.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    BinFrog wrote:
    I agree with this ruling. Free speech should be protected at all costs.


    Unfortunately, I agree.
    me too :(
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  • Shawshank wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's surprising that no military men turn up to give these freaks a good hiding.

    I was just telling my wife that exact same thing this morning. The bikers that guard these funerals, I'm surprised some of them don't think it's worth doing a little time just to shut them up. I'm sure that there's a big part of this group that hopes people turn violent towards them, so no matter what, you can't really win here.

    yeah you're probably right... violence is not the answer (as always). I think a little bit of Discordian vandalism would do quite well though... like a bunch of signs that simply read "citation needed" and hold it next to all of their signs.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    haffajappa wrote:
    BinFrog wrote:
    I agree with this ruling. Free speech should be protected at all costs.


    Unfortunately, I agree.
    me too :(
    Yeah, me too.

    So when the U.S. govt tries to detain war protesters like they've been known to in the past, they should be reminded of this ruling.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's surprising that no military men turn up to give these freaks a good hiding.

    no kidding. If that was my brother, son, father, etc... those people would be in the hospital and I'd be in jail.

    Beating them up and sending them to the hospital probably will not change their way's of thinking, if anything it will make them even more passionate. Unless that's what we want?

    But how difficult it must be to ignore these people at such a difficult time in a families life.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    MrAbraham wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's surprising that no military men turn up to give these freaks a good hiding.

    no kidding. If that was my brother, son, father, etc... those people would be in the hospital and I'd be in jail.

    Beating them up and sending them to the hospital probably will not change their way's of thinking, if anything it will make them even more passionate. Unless that's what we want?

    But how difficult it must be to ignore these people at such a difficult time in a families life.

    Powerful ear plugs. The only way to beat these people is to outright ignore them.
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