Fed's over spending, GAO to release report today

Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited March 2011 in A Moving Train
This is a FOX news artical :shock: and I'm not looking for a pissing contest about FOX just want to know what you guys know about this.

Godfather.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/ ... ained-fox#
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  • wow, they actually talk about department of defense and military expenditures and overlap. The military industrial complex has fewer and fewer propagandists these days.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    if even part of this is good info I wonder what kind of impact it will make on spending ?
    I know what you guys think of FOX and I myself don't trust much I read on any news site
    but this actually sounds like it has some credibility, I'm all for a strong military but this
    sounds like a slush fund for things other than what we really need, misappropriated moneys ?
    this should play out real good....in a almost funny way, nothing like getting caught with your
    hands in the cookie jar. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Godfather. wrote:
    in a almost funny way, nothing like getting caught with your
    hands in the cookie jar. :lol:

    Godfather.

    I don't think that's the case. Government, by nature, is a bureaucratic and non-efficient structure. It is the whole Apollonian desire to create order out of chaos, which just creates rigid confusion among the systems man creates. That's why simple and smaller structures, especially of government, are better. There is less rigid confusion and wasteful energy spent.

    The thing about a bureaucracy though, is that once it is implemented its principal task is to keep the hierarchy in place and actual results are inconsequential. It must be destroyed by the people.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Godfather. wrote:
    in a almost funny way, nothing like getting caught with your
    hands in the cookie jar. :lol:

    Godfather.

    I don't think that's the case. Government, by nature, is a bureaucratic and non-efficient structure. It is the whole Apollonian desire to create order out of chaos, which just creates rigid confusion among the systems man creates. That's why simple and smaller structures, especially of government, are better. There is less rigid confusion and wasteful energy spent.

    The thing about a bureaucracy though, is that once it is implemented its principal task is to keep the hierarchy in place and actual results are inconsequential. It must be destroyed by the people.
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  • Jason P wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    in a almost funny way, nothing like getting caught with your
    hands in the cookie jar. :lol:

    Godfather.

    I don't think that's the case. Government, by nature, is a bureaucratic and non-efficient structure. It is the whole Apollonian desire to create order out of chaos, which just creates rigid confusion among the systems man creates. That's why simple and smaller structures, especially of government, are better. There is less rigid confusion and wasteful energy spent.

    The thing about a bureaucracy though, is that once it is implemented its principal task is to keep the hierarchy in place and actual results are inconsequential. It must be destroyed by the people.
    Welcome to the Tea Party! :D

    Oh FUCK no! Those people seem like the kind of people who supported the Weimar Republic. They want economic freedom but their idea of social freedom is everyone living the same lifestyle that they do.

    edit: this g'damn tea party... whenever I tell someone i'm a sympathetic liberatarian, or a discordian anarchist (depending on who I'm talking to)... they assume that my beliefs line up with the tea party. It's like being a Pearl Jam fan and someone thinks that you'd probably like Creed, too.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Jason P wrote:
    I don't think that's the case. Government, by nature, is a bureaucratic and non-efficient structure. It is the whole Apollonian desire to create order out of chaos, which just creates rigid confusion among the systems man creates. That's why simple and smaller structures, especially of government, are better. There is less rigid confusion and wasteful energy spent.

    The thing about a bureaucracy though, is that once it is implemented its principal task is to keep the hierarchy in place and actual results are inconsequential. It must be destroyed by the people.
    Welcome to the Tea Party! :D

    Oh FUCK no! Those people seem like the kind of people who supported the Weimar Republic. They want economic freedom but their idea of social freedom is everyone living the same lifestyle that they do.

    edit: this g'damn tea party... whenever I tell someone i'm a sympathetic liberatarian, or a discordian anarchist (depending on who I'm talking to)... they assume that my beliefs line up with the tea party. It's like being a Pearl Jam fan and someone thinks that you'd probably like Creed, too.
    You don't like Creed? :o :shock:
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    if even part of this is good info I wonder what kind of impact it will make on spending ?
    I know what you guys think of FOX and I myself don't trust much I read on any news site
    but this actually sounds like it has some credibility, I'm all for a strong military but this
    sounds like a slush fund for things other than what we really need, misappropriated moneys ?
    this should play out real good....in a almost funny way, nothing like getting caught with your
    hands in the cookie jar. :lol:

    Godfather.
    ...
    Instead of reading what FOX (or MSNBC, N.Y Times, Washington Post, etc...) has to say about the report... read the report:
    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf
    ...
    Form your own opinion.
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  • byttermanbytterman Posts: 136
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Instead of reading what FOX (or MSNBC, N.Y Times, Washington Post, etc...) has to say about the report... read the report:
    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf
    ...
    Form your own opinion.


    Absolutely, although at 345 pages an executive summary would have been useful (something better than the introduction anyway). A ton of money swirling the bowl, no doubt. Surprised to see little/no mention of Federal/State overlap, or did I miss it? Does that overlap matter? I'm not entirely clear on who is responsible for what in the US, barely understand it in Canada.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    if even part of this is good info I wonder what kind of impact it will make on spending ?
    I know what you guys think of FOX and I myself don't trust much I read on any news site
    but this actually sounds like it has some credibility, I'm all for a strong military but this
    sounds like a slush fund for things other than what we really need, misappropriated moneys ?
    this should play out real good....in a almost funny way, nothing like getting caught with your
    hands in the cookie jar. :lol:

    Godfather.
    ...
    Instead of reading what FOX (or MSNBC, N.Y Times, Washington Post, etc...) has to say about the report... read the report:
    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf
    ...
    Form your own opinion.

    wise guy...thanks cosmo

    Godfather.
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