Who's the stupid one?

puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
edited February 2011 in A Moving Train
Jane Cunningham Says Enough With Our Stupid Child Labor Laws Already

Last week, she sponsored SB222 to drastically weaken Missouri's child labor rules, and the bill has been assigned to her General Laws committee in the Senate.

Do these f—kin people even stop to think at some of the s—t they propose to make law or are they just whores to power and their corporate sponsors? I can’t image the people of Missouri supporting a bill that could expose their children to the sickos of society. Isn’t this the drop-off State for the safe haven of abandon children?

SB 222 – This act modifies the child labor laws.

1) It eliminates the prohibition on employment of children under age fourteen.
--Guess what 10, 11, 12 and 13 year old can now be put to work and we’re not talking paper routes.

2)Restrictions on the number of hours and restrictions on when a child may work during the day are also removed.
--Guess what 10, 11, 12 and 13 year old can now work a night shift.

3) It also repeals the requirement that a child ages fourteen or fifteen obtain a work certificate or work permit in order to be employed.
--No proof is required by an employer before hiring what they think is a 14 or 15 year old person

4) Children under sixteen will also be allowed to work in any capacity in a motel, resort or hotel where sleeping accommodations are furnished.
--10, 11, 12 and 13 year olds as hotel workers, I bet the massage requests will triple. This is a pedophile and rapist dream come true. Of course our upstanding citizens don’t have to fly all the way to Southeast Asia to get their fix.

5) It also removes the authority of the director of the Division of Labor Standards to inspect employers who employ children and to require them to keep certain records for children they employ.
--State officials striped of their right fine or charge employers of children
--Employers are exempt from having to keep certain records (timesheets, wages actually paid & tax withholdings)
-- In other words, the creation of sweatshop style employment.

6)It also repeals the presumption that the presence of a child in a workplace is evidence of employment.
--So if people see underage children 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 yr olds hang around a hotel they can’t assume that child is employed there.
--Nor does that hotel have to answer or produce employment records about these children.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    are you insinuating that they will be forced into slavery?


    What is wrong with a 13 year old having a part time job?
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  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    first job I had was mowing lawns in the neighborhood when I was about 10. Me and my buddy had 15 lawns we cut for about $10-15 a cut, we had regular customers. Next job I had was when I was 13(I had to get working papers for that). I have been working ever since. I have no problem with kids working.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    yoke wrote:
    first job I had was mowing lawns in the neighborhood when I was about 10. Me and my buddy had 15 lawns we cut for about $10-15 a cut, we had regular customers. Next job I had was when I was 13(I had to get working papers for that). I have been working ever since. I have no problem with kids working.
    Yeah, I guess it depend on which side of the looking glass you view the subject from. Growing up in the country, I was driving farm equipment by age 14 and helping out bailing hay and the such. I never was giving an assignment I couldn't handle physically. My parents made it clear that my allowance was ending in the 8th grade and I had to buy my own clothes, car, etc, so I worked full time in the summers and after school for a few hours.

    I guess you can look at it from the perspective of evil businesses raiding the orphanage and working kids in sweat shops 7 days a week or you can view it as a kid putting down the controller of his Xbox, getting a part-time job, and developing some life-long lessons in motivation, economics and self-reliance.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Jason P wrote:
    yoke wrote:
    first job I had was mowing lawns in the neighborhood when I was about 10. Me and my buddy had 15 lawns we cut for about $10-15 a cut, we had regular customers. Next job I had was when I was 13(I had to get working papers for that). I have been working ever since. I have no problem with kids working.
    Yeah, I guess it depend on which side of the looking glass you view the subject from. Growing up in the country, I was driving farm equipment by age 14 and helping out bailing hay and the such. I never was giving an assignment I couldn't handle physically. My parents made it clear that my allowance was ending in the 8th grade and I had to buy my own clothes, car, etc, so I worked full time in the summers and after school for a few hours.

    I guess you can look at it from the perspective of evil businesses raiding the orphanage and working kids in sweat shops 7 days a week or you can view it as a kid putting down the controller of his Xbox, getting a part-time job, and developing some life-long lessons in motivation, economics and self-reliance.


    I have no idea how someone could look at it from this point of view.
    Seriously, if anyone thinks oliver twist is going to happen should step back, take a breath and realize that teenagers and kids learning fiscal responsibility and having a work ethic with real consequences can only benefit the whole of society.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • Who cares no ones hiring anyway. Teen unemployment is at an all time high.





    JANUARY 2011 UNEMPLOYMENT DATA*
                                              (U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS)

    OFFICIAL UNEMPLOYMENT: 9.0% [Analysis]
    A year earlier, the number of unemployed persons was 14.8
    million, and the jobless rate was 9.7 percent. [BLS]

    White
         8.0%
    African American
    15.7%
    Hispanic
    11.9%
    Asian**                                     6.9%
    Persons with a disability **
        13.6%
    Men 20 years and over
    8.8%
    Women 20 years and over
    7.9%
    Teens (16-19 years)
    25.7%
    Black teens
    45.4%
    Officially unemployed
    13.9 million
    HIDDEN UNEMPLOYMENT
    Working part-time because can't find a full-time job:   8.4 million
    People who want jobs but are not looking so are not counted in official statistics (of which about 2.5 million** searched for work during the prior 12 months and were available for work during the reference week.)   6.4 million
    Total: 28.7 million (18.0% of the labor force)
    Source: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
      
    **Not seasonally adjusted.
    *See Uncommon Sense #4 for an explanation of the unemployment measures.

    In addition, millions more were working full-time, year-round, yet earned less than the official poverty level for a family of four. In 2009, the latest year available, that number was 16.3 million, 16.4 percent of full-time, full-year workers (estimated from Current Population Survey, Bur. of the  Census, 2010).

    In December, 2010, the latest month available, the number of job
    openings was 3.1 million, "little changed from 3.2 million in November. Since the most recent series trough in July 2009, the level of job openings has risen by 0.7 million, or 31 percent. This trough immediately followed the end of the recession in June 2009 (as designated by the National Bureau of Economic Research). Even with the gainssince July 2009, the number of job openingsin December remained 1.3 million below the 4.4 million openings
    when the recession began in December 2007.....The levelwas little changed over the year for government. Over the year, the job openings level increased in seven industries, decreased in one industry, and was essentially unchanged in the remaining industries. The job openings levelincreased in the Midwest and
    West regions." Job Openings and Labor Turnover Estimates, February 8, 2010.+ Thus there are now more than 9 job-wanters for each available job.


    Source: http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/ ... _jobs.html

    Employment-population ratio

    Mass layoffs: "Employers took 1,586 mass layoff actions in November involving 152,816 workers, seasonally adjusted, as measured by new filings for unemployment insurance benefits during the month, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Each mass layoff involved at least 50 persons from a single employer. The number of mass layoff events in November decreased by 65 from the prior month, while the number of associated initial claims increased by 4,757. In November, 354 mass layoff events were reported in the manufacturing sector, seasonally adjusted, resulting in 39,465 initial claims. Over the month, the number of manufacturing events decreased slightly, while associated initial claims increased by 2,027." BLS, 12/22/10
    ....
    "REVIEW OF 2009 For all of 2009, on a not seasonally adjusted basis, the total numbers of mass layoff events, at 28,030, and initial claims, at 2,796,456, reached their highest annual levels on record. Among the 19 major industry sectors in the private economy, manufacturing had the most initial claims in 2009 (1,137,106), followed by administrative and waste services (294,709) and construction (205,765). Manufacturing also had the largest over-the-year increase in total annual initial claims (+266,796), with retail trade (+57,283) and administrative and waste services (+48,039) experiencing the next largest increases. Among the major industry sectors, 12 registered series highs for both mass layoff events and initial claims in 2009: mining; construction; wholesale trade; retail trade; transportation and warehousing; finance and insurance; real estate and rental and leasing; management of companies and enterprises; administrative and waste services; health care and social assistance; arts, entertainment, and recreation; and accommodation and food services.
    ....
    Among the 4 census regions, the Midwest reported the highest number of mass layoff initial claims filed during 2009 (892,202), followed by the West and the South. All 4 regions experienced over-the-year annual increases, with the largest increases taking place in the Midwest (+215,611). The Midwest, Northeast, and South also reached program highs for total initial claims in 2009. ...." (BLS, January 27, 2010)

    + "The number of job openings in November (not seasonally adjusted) increased from 12 months earlier for total nonfarm and total private. The level was little changed over the year for government. Over the year, the job openings level increased in seven industries and was essentially unchanged in the remaining industries. The job openings level was up over the year in all four regions."
  • this isn't the 19th century... kids aren't going to be shackled to the factory floor and forced to work for 16 hour shifts. But, there is a gray area here where kids could be taken advantage of. Of course NONE of us want that...

    What we really need to ask ourselves is this; are we (humans) so abhorrent that we'll allow our children to be exploited and our employers to exploit them, and therefore we need a 3rd party (government) to protect us from those ills?

    If the answer is "yes"... then sign me up for the hermit package in the most remote place on earth.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I hear ya...this is awful. If you have these facts straight this is an injustice to our children.
    We need laws to protect the rights of children, to protect them from exploitation of any kind.

    Doesn't mean they can't work it means they can't be abused.

    In my opinion, children under 14 should be enjoying their youth, studying and pursuing talents, musical, sports, art.
    If they want to go mow a lawn or help an elderly person or babysit in the private sector that is great.

    Children over 14 need laws to insure they can still do this by working part time with laws in place that protect their freedoms. And yes a work permit required.

    I see this move as a way to fill jobs that should go to older workers at higher pay ....
    what is going on with our country?
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