Obama’s Spending Spree: By the Numbers

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How can anyone in their right mind to suppourt this . Especially if you have children, Because when they are in their late 20's they will be handing over anywhere from 60-80% of their paychecks to the federal gov. and thats not including state taxes. That means we will be working just to pay taxes.

"The debate going on between President Obama and Republican leadership is not just about them - it's about your lives. The arguments over deficits, taxes, entitlement programs and unions, have a direct affect on the way you and your children live". M. Levin

{Federal deficit on track for a record this fiscal year} :o :shock:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... s-economy/

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Obama’s Spending Spree: By the Numbers
February 14, 2011 12:40 P.M.
By Andrew Stiles
Here is President Obama’s budget for fiscal year 2012 (and outlook through 2021). And here is a look at some of the numbers that stand out:

$3.73 trillion — total spending this year (25 percent of GDP, highest levels since World War Two).

$46 trillion — total spending over the next decade.

$8.7 trillion — total new spending over the same period.

$26.3 trillion — Total new debt, including entitlement obligations, predicted by 2021.

$7.2 trillion — Total deficit predicted by the end of the decade.

$1.1 trillion — How much the White House estimates the proposal will reduce the deficit over the next ten years.

$4 trillion — How much the president’s deficit commission recommended reducing the deficit over the next ten years to avoid financial catastrophe.

$1.6 trillion — The projected annual deficit for 2011 (11 percent of GDP), up from $1.3 trillion in 2010.

$2 trillion — Amount the budget will raise taxes on business and upper-income families over the next ten years, which includes letting the Bush-era tax rates expire in 2012 (for incomes $250,000 and up).

$50 billion — Amount the administration plans to spend this year on infrastructure and transportation “investments.”

$30 billion — Amount dedicated to a “National Infrastructure Bank to invest in projects of regional or national significance to the economy,” including the much-touted high-speed rail initiative.

$77.4 billion — Funding allocated for the Department of Education, a 22 percent increase from 2010 levels, and a 35 percent increase from 2008 levels.

$29.5 billion — Total spending on the Department of Energy, a 22 percent increase from 2008 levels.

$9.9 billion — Funding allocated for the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), a 30 percent increase from 2008 levels.

$150 billion — Total amount the White House plans to spend next year on research and development programs.

8.2 percent — Predicted unemployment rate in 2012.

Zero — Political risk the president was willing to assume by proposing meaningful reform to entitlement programs. That said, Republicans haven’t exactly been willing to stick their necks either, at least not yet.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    get rid of the bush tax cuts and all will be fine...

    problem solved...

    anything else I can help you with... :)
  • mcgavinjmcgavinj Idaho Falls, ID, USA Posts: 311
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  • inmytree wrote:
    get rid of the bush tax cuts and all will be fine...

    problem solved...

    anything else I can help you with... :)

    Um no.. It's not that simple Normally I just ignore you because you never have anything intelligent to say. just the same old thing Bush- :evil: Bush :evil: Bush :evil: it's like you have Tourette's syndrome or something. You need to read more bcos you have not a clue.

    Washington Has a spending problem. and let me ask you a question. When Bush was in office under what tax rate did you pay ?
  • That's not a budget... it's just a bunch of random numbers. I'd like to see the projected income, where it is coming from, and the expenses and where they're going for each year (the actual budget).

    That being said... this country is and HAS BEEN spending way too much for a long time.

    54% of the federal tax dollar goes to the military.

    Let's just cut out 90% of that, reduce taxes by 50%, and within 5 years the debt will be GONE. We do spend as much for our military as the next ten fucking countries COMBINED. So, I think we'll be okay.

    Seems pretty simple... but I'm sure there are plenty of war hawks and other sociopaths who enjoy murder who will disprove of that concept.
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  • That's not a budget... it's just a bunch of random numbers. I'd like to see the projected income, where it is coming from, and the expenses and where they're going for each year (the actual budget).

    That being said... this country is and HAS BEEN spending way too much for a long time.

    54% of the federal tax dollar goes to the military.

    Let's just cut out 90% of that, reduce taxes by 50%, and within 5 years the debt will be GONE. We do spend as much for our military as the next ten fucking countries COMBINED. So, I think we'll be okay.

    Seems pretty simple... but I'm sure there are plenty of war hawks and other sociopaths who enjoy murder who will disprove of that concept.

    The simplest ideas are always best. I wonder how many people would end up unemployed? Of course, it would be nice to have the engineers building something else...
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
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    ugh... :yawn:
  • Please don't act as if all of this spending only began when Obama took office. During the Carter administration, the gross federal debt was down 3.3% from the prior administration, increased an average of 10.3% during the Reagan years (despite his massive cuts to social programs), increased another 15% while Bush Sr was in office, decreased an average of 4.85% during the Clinton administration, then increased an average of 13.55% while Dubya was president. The servers of the koolaid would have folks believe that Barack Hussein's primary directive is to destroy this country, but the absolute beauty of living in this country is that we don't HAVE to drink the koolaid and we CAN think for ourselves.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    prfctlefts wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    get rid of the bush tax cuts and all will be fine...

    problem solved...

    anything else I can help you with... :)

    Um no.. It's not that simple Normally I just ignore you because you never have anything intelligent to say. just the same old thing Bush- :evil: Bush :evil: Bush :evil: it's like you have Tourette's syndrome or something. You need to read more bcos you have not a clue.

    Washington Has a spending problem. and let me ask you a question. When Bush was in office under what tax rate did you pay ?

    why do you act like a little baby all the time...? seriously, if anyone disagree with you you cry like a 3 year old...or is you know I'm right and you can't have a proper answer...?
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Johnny Come Lately's.... that should be the new nickname for all the "fiscal" and "responsibility" reformers. That's right.. the world and our nation went askew when Obama got in office... haha
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  • bytterman wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    That's not a budget... it's just a bunch of random numbers. I'd like to see the projected income, where it is coming from, and the expenses and where they're going for each year (the actual budget).


    These are some of the numbers that stand out. What, You think they just made this up :?


    Since you asked for it here it is.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Overview
  • prfctlefts wrote:
    bytterman wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    That's not a budget... it's just a bunch of random numbers. I'd like to see the projected income, where it is coming from, and the expenses and where they're going for each year (the actual budget).


    These are some of the numbers that stand out. What, You think they just made this up :?


    Since you asked for it here it is.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Overview

    I don't doubt their accuracy... it is just that when we talk about billions and TRILLIONS of dollars it is so big of a number that it immediately inspires fear and means little without the corresponding income and alternatives and why we're spending that money, and who it benefits (jobs, etc).
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  • inmytree wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    get rid of the bush tax cuts and all will be fine...

    problem solved...

    anything else I can help you with... :)

    Um no.. It's not that simple Normally I just ignore you because you never have anything intelligent to say. just the same old thing Bush- :evil: Bush :evil: Bush :evil: it's like you have Tourette's syndrome or something. You need to read more bcos you have not a clue.

    Washington Has a spending problem. and let me ask you a question. When Bush was in office under what tax rate did you pay ?

    why do you act like a little baby all the time...? seriously, if anyone disagree with you you cry like a 3 year old...or is you know I'm right and you can't have a proper answer...?[/quote


    Crying:lol: Please man dont get excited .. Right about what / ending the bush tax cuts is not going to solve anything increasing taxes never has. Washington has a spending problem. How is that so hard for you to see ? why are you impervious to facts. And Why don't you answer my question. Under what tax rate did you pay when Bush was in office ?
  • Let's start by ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, to date costing 1.1 trillion dollars thus far. We should means test social security and we should put all of our foreign aid recipients on notice that we're cutting our aid 10% a year for the next ten years, and that includes Israel. If the rest of the world had to pay their own way then maybe they would learn to play nice with one another. We seem to subsidize conflict around the world. We need to take care of our own and that may include raising taxes on those in the top 1% of income earners. Reagan raised taxes 6 or 7 years of the 8 he was in office and yet he is held up as a hero to the conservatives. Obama is in office for 2 years and its all his fault. 1.1 trillion thus far for 2 wars that the previous administration started and didn't fund and no one, democrats or republicans, are talking about it. And that tax break I received from Bush, I put the check into the stock market as I didn't really need it and could have done without it. And yes, I would pay higher taxes if I knew it was going to be invested rather than pissed away in the sands of Iraq or Afghanistan, no disrespect to our troops by any means, or be given away in the form of further tax cuts for the top 1% or corporate America flush with cash.

    I challenge anyone who thinks they have the answer to find the NYT article where you can play budget creator and you have to balance the budget. Good luck with that. To think you can balance the budget and reduce the deficit by solely cutting domestic discretionary spending is dishonest.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    That's not a budget... it's just a bunch of random numbers. I'd like to see the projected income, where it is coming from, and the expenses and where they're going for each year (the actual budget).

    That being said... this country is and HAS BEEN spending way too much for a long time.

    54% of the federal tax dollar goes to the military.

    Let's just cut out 90% of that, reduce taxes by 50%, and within 5 years the debt will be GONE. We do spend as much for our military as the next ten fucking countries COMBINED. So, I think we'll be okay.

    Seems pretty simple... but I'm sure there are plenty of war hawks and other sociopaths who enjoy murder who will disprove of that concept.
    This is an area that the old-guard Republicans will not touch. But it was great to see the influence of the "evil racist tea-party" GOP freshman help Obama eliminate an alternative engine for the F-35 that would have cost $3B yesterday (much to John Boehner's dismay). It's a start.
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  • FiveB247x wrote:
    Johnny Come Lately's.... that should be the new nickname for all the "fiscal" and "responsibility" reformers. That's right.. the world and our nation went askew when Obama got in office... haha



    Oh well better late than never.
    So should we just say SCREW IT !!!! and let the future generations deal with it ?
    . Your right in some cases but we have been on this path for many years and my point is Obama and his predecessors haven't done a damn thing to stop it. and Obama has spent more in just 2 years than all the presidents combined. If that doesn't get your attention then I don't really know what else to say.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    In my opinion, albeit a nice gesture, we're past the point of "fixing" and no one really cares about the future outside of their own little narrow confines.
    prfctlefts wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Johnny Come Lately's.... that should be the new nickname for all the "fiscal" and "responsibility" reformers. That's right.. the world and our nation went askew when Obama got in office... haha



    Oh well better late than never.
    So should we just say SCREW IT !!!! and let the future generations deal with it ?
    . Your right in some cases but we have been on this path for many years and my point is Obama and his predecessors haven't done a damn thing to stop it. and Obama has spent more in just 2 years than all the presidents combined. If that doesn't get your attention then I don't really know what else to say.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    prfctlefts wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Johnny Come Lately's.... that should be the new nickname for all the "fiscal" and "responsibility" reformers. That's right.. the world and our nation went askew when Obama got in office... haha



    Oh well better late than never.
    So should we just say SCREW IT !!!! and let the future generations deal with it ?
    . Your right in some cases but we have been on this path for many years and my point is Obama and his predecessors haven't done a damn thing to stop it. and Obama has spent more in just 2 years than all the presidents combined. If that doesn't get your attention then I don't really know what else to say.
    That's right, better late then never. America (both citizens and government) were spending out of control and when the floor fell through, it woke a lot of people up including myself. Some fail to grasp this notion and accuse those that want to cut spending of being evil dumb racists. I don't like the fact that someone like Palin and a few other sensationalists jumped on the boat, but when there is no official club membership, what are you going to do.

    Anyway, the true test is will be when those demanding fiscal responsibility also turn their eye to the military budget as well as social programs. I have hope that the collective group will.
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  • Jason P wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Johnny Come Lately's.... that should be the new nickname for all the "fiscal" and "responsibility" reformers. That's right.. the world and our nation went askew when Obama got in office... haha



    Oh well better late than never.
    So should we just say SCREW IT !!!! and let the future generations deal with it ?
    . Your right in some cases but we have been on this path for many years and my point is Obama and his predecessors haven't done a damn thing to stop it. and Obama has spent more in just 2 years than all the presidents combined. If that doesn't get your attention then I don't really know what else to say.
    That's right, better late then never. America (both citizens and government) were spending out of control and when the floor fell through, it woke a lot of people up including myself. Some fail to grasp this notion and accuse those that want to cut spending of being evil dumb racists. I don't like the fact that someone like Palin and a few other sensationalists jumped on the boat, but when there is no official club membership, what are you going to do.

    Anyway, the true test is will be when those demanding fiscal responsibility also turn their eye to the military budget as well as social programs. I have hope that the collective group will.[/quote


    :thumbup: exactly...
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    prfctlefts wrote:

    Crying:lol: Please man dont get excited .. Right about what / ending the bush tax cuts is not going to solve anything increasing taxes never has. Washington has a spending problem. How is that so hard for you to see ? why are you impervious to facts. And Why don't you answer my question. Under what tax rate did you pay when Bush was in office ?

    :? I don't understand why you need my personal information...?

    I think you're just being obtuse...(<---Google it)
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    Please don't act as if all of this spending only began when Obama took office. During the Carter administration, the gross federal debt was down 3.3% from the prior administration, increased an average of 10.3% during the Reagan years (despite his massive cuts to social programs), increased another 15% while Bush Sr was in office, decreased an average of 4.85% during the Clinton administration, then increased an average of 13.55% while Dubya was president. The servers of the koolaid would have folks believe that Barack Hussein's primary directive is to destroy this country, but the absolute beauty of living in this country is that we don't HAVE to drink the koolaid and we CAN think for ourselves.

    I disagree. Obama destroyed the country in 18 months. Bush II was a great President and Americans never lived better. Clinton only balanced the budget because he had a Rep. congress and he got lucky with the dot.com boom. Bush I continued the flawless programs put forth by Reaganomics, which he himself labeled voodoo economics. Reagan saved the economy and the poor and lower class thrived under him. None of these presidents that came before Obama overspent, nor did any of them lead the country into the red.

    Again, Obama destroyed the country in 18 months as everyone said in the summer of 2010


















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  • In 1981, shortly after taking office, Reagan lamented "runaway deficits" that were then approaching $80 billion, or about 2.5 percent of gross domestic product. Within only two years, however, his policies had succeeded in enlarging the deficit to more than $200 billion, or 6 percent of GDP.

    "It was an experiment," said Alan Auerbach, a professor of economics at UC Berkeley. "No one before Reagan had ever run such huge deficits during peacetime. He showed that you could smile and tell everyone not to worry and, politically, no one will call you to account."

    This lesson clearly wasn't lost on the current occupant of the White House, who has followed the Reagan economic playbook virtually step by step in taking a budget surplus and turning it into a deficit this year of more than $520 billion, or 4.5 percent of GDP.

    This article is from 1994. Who is responsible for the current mess? Can we please stop holding Reagan up as the greatest president ever? He did more to destroy the middle class through his tax increases on the middle class than any president before or since. And his deficit spending was the playbook that every republican since has emulated. I hope you like 20% to 25% unemployment as that is what we'll have if the government were to stop spending.

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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    it's truly mind boggling how retarded the gop base is.

    Somehow the gop has them fooled tehm and got them to vote AGAINST their own interests.

    God, Guns, Gays, Freedom, USA! USA! USA! and Taxes makes them unable to think for themselves.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    54% of the federal tax dollar goes to the military.

    Let's just cut out 90% of that, reduce taxes by 50%, and within 5 years the debt will be GONE. We do spend as much for our military as the next ten fucking countries COMBINED. So, I think we'll be okay.

    In the documentary 'South of the Border' the former President of Argentina Néstor Kirchnern mentions a meeting he had with George W. Bush about the economy:

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    54% of the federal tax dollar goes to the military.

    ewww seriously?
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    haffajappa wrote:

    54% of the federal tax dollar goes to the military.

    ewww seriously?


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    Another take on our spending...

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    whygohome wrote:
    Please don't act as if all of this spending only began when Obama took office. During the Carter administration, the gross federal debt was down 3.3% from the prior administration, increased an average of 10.3% during the Reagan years (despite his massive cuts to social programs), increased another 15% while Bush Sr was in office, decreased an average of 4.85% during the Clinton administration, then increased an average of 13.55% while Dubya was president. The servers of the koolaid would have folks believe that Barack Hussein's primary directive is to destroy this country, but the absolute beauty of living in this country is that we don't HAVE to drink the koolaid and we CAN think for ourselves.

    I disagree. Obama destroyed the country in 18 months. Bush II was a great President and Americans never lived better. Clinton only balanced the budget because he had a Rep. congress and he got lucky with the dot.com boom. Bush I continued the flawless programs put forth by Reaganomics, which he himself labeled voodoo economics. Reagan saved the economy and the poor and lower class thrived under him. None of these presidents that came before Obama overspent, nor did any of them lead the country into the red.

    Again, Obama destroyed the country in 18 months as everyone said in the summer of 2010

    Yum. Kool-aid
    Arguing about who fucked up what is rather pointless unless Doc Brown is able to complete the construction of a flux capacitor. Obama is just an extension of the two party system that have combined over the years to fleece taxpayers and create budgets that cannot be supported. Everyone in America including the politicians needs to learn how to balance a checkbook and reduce debt.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    haffajappa wrote:

    54% of the federal tax dollar goes to the military.

    ewww seriously?


    I am actually having trouble verifying that number...

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258
    Of that $3.6 trillion, almost $2.2 trillion will be financed by federal tax revenues. The remaining $1.4 trillion will be financed by borrowing; this deficit will ultimately be paid for by future taxpayers.

    so if the budget is made up of 2.2 trillion in tax revenue, that would mean that they spend 1.18 trillion of tax payer dollars on the military...care to back that up? I am interested to see where you got that number from
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  • Smellyman wrote:
    it's truly mind boggling how retarded the gop base is.

    Somehow the gop has them fooled tehm and got them to vote AGAINST their own interests.

    God, Guns, Gays, Freedom, USA! USA! USA! and Taxes makes them unable to think for themselves.


    Oh man... it's almost scary to see how by just stoking their homophobic and xenophobic nature, people are willing to vote for the GOP who have shown over and over again that their only mandate is to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

    And then you have idiots actually defending them and saying things you know they don't even believe.
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