To Those Who Own Telephantasm...

Music For RhinosMusic For Rhinos Posts: 1,693
edited April 2011 in Other Music
Particularly the 2CD/1DVD version...is this worth buying/owning? I normally wouldn't bring it up but the fact is I have everything Soundgarden's done (all 5 studio plus Screaming Life/Fopp EP and A-Sides) so I'm really on the fence about this one.

The new stuff for me would be the song Black Rain of course as it was previously unreleased (though I have heard it) and all the videos on the DVD. Is it just music videos of the songs or are there live performances too? I'm sure a lot of the videos are probably posted on Youtube and whatnot so this adds to the reasons not to buy it. But, at the same time, I love Soundgarden and it would be a worthy addition, I assume...
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  • joely_91joely_91 Posts: 795
    there are a few different live versions of songs on the telephantasm cd's.... it might just be me but some of the earlier stuff sounds a little better then the original cds....but yeah not entirely sure of that. There are a lot of different videos on the dvd though none are actual live performances...no black rain video however.... some people arent to keen on adding cd's that contain previously released stuff but I say you can never have enough music....some days though I feel like listening to a-sides and others telephantasm
  • Bought the vinyl and its a beauty
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  • Particularly the 2CD/1DVD version...is this worth buying/owning? I normally wouldn't bring it up but the fact is I have everything Soundgarden's done (all 5 studio plus Screaming Life/Fopp EP and A-Sides) so I'm really on the fence about this one.

    The new stuff for me would be the song Black Rain of course as it was previously unreleased (though I have heard it) and all the videos on the DVD. Is it just music videos of the songs or are there live performances too? I'm sure a lot of the videos are probably posted on Youtube and whatnot so this adds to the reasons not to buy it. But, at the same time, I love Soundgarden and it would be a worthy addition, I assume...

    Just get it, it is worth having all the videos and it is a cool collection to add to your SG cds! 8-)
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  • Bump....more opinions PLEASE! Thanks! :D
  • kasedougkasedoug The Golden State Posts: 2,972
    Also have A-Sides so I was on the fence about picking it up until I caught it on sale online at bestbuy.com a while back. The 2CD/DVD was only $9.99 and I had a $5 coupon on top of that.
    Mainly picked it up for the live/non studio versions. Well worth it for $5.
  • I purchased the Super Deluxe version. That whole package really is a thing of beauty. The DVD of videos are the promo clips, including the foreign versions/different edits of some.

    There are actually 2 different videos to Burden in My Hand (both very similar and shot in the desert) but only the usually shown one is on the DVD (I only have the other one because a TV show in Oz, back in the mid-to-late '90's split the screen horizontally and played them at the same time...it's on a VHS somewhere).

    I would have paid for the DVD on its own, so I feel the package did its job for older Soundgarden fans, who've been waiting for a DVD like that for 15 years. It's also nice to get the Sub Pop Singles of the Month Club (7") version of "Room a Thousand Years Wide" (a totally different recording to the 'Badmotorfinger' version) on a digital master format. I shelled out big bucks for that single many years ago, and had to do a vinyl-->cassette-->laptop-->WAV/mp3 conversion (complete with clicks and pops from the record) just to get the fucker on my iPod!
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i bought it soley for the DVD. I see no point in buying best ofs if you already have all the CDs.
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  • i bought it soley for the DVD. I see no point in buying best ofs if you already have all the CDs.
    Some of the songs on Telephantasm weren't the album versions, though.
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  • Bump...

    Just ordered 2cd/dvd version new from Amazon...

    One thing though, read through quite a few customers reviews there and saw multiple complaints that the Telephantasm CD is ruined by loudness, something about dynamic range compression or something like that. People were saying it's another album fallen victim to the "Loudness Wars."

    Can anyone support or dispel this claim?
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    just saw the deluxe box at best buy for like $70... looks great... but i'm still not sure... i think i'd rather have the vs./vitalogy box
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    im only a half way fan of soundgarden and I bought, so i think you should have it for sure, as mentioned, the videos are great to throw on.....JESUS CHRIST POSE......


    to those who bought the vinyl....it was too much $$$ for me....good on ya!

    stoked for the Live '96 album coming out soon too!
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  • HawkshoreHawkshore Posts: 2,160
    stoked for the Live '96 album coming out soon too!

    My wax just came today, looking forward to spinning it tonight .......I was at the Vancouver Forum show Rusty Cage was recorded at so it will be a great look back! 8-)
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  • Appreciate the replies but no one addressed my question:

    On Amazon, I read through quite a few customers reviews there and saw multiple complaints that the Telephantasm CD is ruined by loudness, something about dynamic range compression or something like that. People were saying it's another album fallen victim to the "Loudness Wars."

    Can anyone support or dispel this claim?
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    Appreciate the replies but no one addressed my question:

    On Amazon, I read through quite a few customers reviews there and saw multiple complaints that the Telephantasm CD is ruined by loudness, something about dynamic range compression or something like that. People were saying it's another album fallen victim to the "Loudness Wars."

    Can anyone support or dispel this claim?

    not sure about that b/c i don't own it. if i were you, i'd just buy it & find out.
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  • dCowboyPJdCowboyPJ Posts: 479
    i had the same issue as you. it took me awhile to buy it because i thought whats the point when i own everything else (including a-sides).

    but i talked myself into it, and was really happy with it when i bought it.

    and then just recently hmv had the boxset on sale for $50, and bought that too. what an amazing package.

    if you're still on the fence i would buy it.

    i also really don't get the loudness comment. i haven't noticed that.
  • I also got the Super Deluxe at HMV for $50. fabulous deal.

    sorry, have not noticed any issues with loudness. tomorrow before the wife and kids get home, I'll crank it up and give you a review.
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  • I think people are equating 'remastered' with 'loudness'. They are not interchangable. An album can be empathetically remastered without brickwalling it. It doesn't even have to be brickwalled, it can just be remastered louder. This is of no consequence if the music still sounds pleasurable to the ear.

    A lot depends on the listener, too. My friend hates Avocado for its mastering; I think it sounds fine.
    I have difficulty listening to Backspacer (especially the first track) because I find it harsh sounding to my ears. That same friend of mine has no issue with the mastering on Backspacer at all.

    Different strokes for different folks. Sure, you're better off just buying Louder Than Love, Badmotorfinger, Superuknown and Down on the Upside and it shouldn't be an issue for you at all! :P
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  • Thanks guys. For the record, I already own everything else Soundgarden has done including the new live album. And I went ahead and ordered Telephantasm. I'm sure it will be great!
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    I think people are equating 'remastered' with 'loudness'. They are not interchangable. An album can be empathetically remastered without brickwalling it. It doesn't even have to be brickwalled, it can just be remastered louder. This is of no consequence if the music still sounds pleasurable to the ear.

    A lot depends on the listener, too. My friend hates Avocado for its mastering; I think it sounds fine.
    I have difficulty listening to Backspacer (especially the first track) because I find it harsh sounding to my ears. That same friend of mine has no issue with the mastering on Backspacer at all.

    Different strokes for different folks. Sure, you're better off just buying Louder Than Love, Badmotorfinger, Superuknown and Down on the Upside and it shouldn't be an issue for you at all! :P

    In this day and age loudness generally means brickwalling. Not saying it's done in this case. I think Telephantasm sounds pretty solid.

    It's funny about you and your buddy liking/disliking those albums. I always thought that listeners that complained about overcompression are usually into the finer details of the music, whereas that stuff didn't really bother people who just dig the songs if you get what I mean.

    S/T mastering doesn't bother me too much, but there's definitely a few tunes that could take a step back. BS is a mess. Definitely not something you should do with a more layered album.
  • Ok, I got it...I love it, sounds fine to me!
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