GOP senator favors cutting US aid to Israel

Jason P

I figure the heads of several members of this board just exploded ....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110128/ap_on_re_us/us_gop_senator_israel

WASHINGTON – Tea party-backed Republican Sen. Rand Paul favors cutting U.S. aid to Israel as part of a deficit-driven effort to slash government spending by $500 billion this year, drawing criticism from Democrats and Republicans who argue the U.S. must be unwavering in its support for the longtime Mideast ally.
The freshman Kentucky lawmaker unveiled his budget proposal this week that would make significant cuts in education, housing and energy while reducing money for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq by $16 billion. Paul's plan also would cut some $20 billion in overseas aid, and he said he wants to eliminate the $3 billion the United States provides to Israel annually in foreign military assistance.
"The overwhelming majority of Americans agree with Senator Paul — our current fiscal crisis makes it impossible to continue the spending policies of the past," Paul spokesman Gary Howard said in a statement responding to the criticism. "We simply cannot afford to give money away, even to our allies, with so much debt mounting on a daily basis."

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unsung

Those Pauls are alright!

I'd like to see one of you that is against Israel (every israel thread is full of you) comment on this.

whygohome

I have no problem with this.

mrvedderson

I don't understand how this could possibly be a bad idea. Why support Israel? It's not like they keep the Middle East in order.

Byrnzie

unsung wrote:

Those Pauls are alright!

I'd like to see one of you that is against Israel (every israel thread is full of you) comment on this.

Are you suggesting that this one intelligent act by Rand Paul legitimizes everything the Tea Party stands for?

Wilds

love this idea.

keeponrockin

I don't hate Israel, however I don't think giving them billions of dollars worth of weapons helps anything, for anybody quite frankly.

unsung

Byrnzie wrote:

unsung wrote:

Those Pauls are alright!

I'd like to see one of you that is against Israel (every israel thread is full of you) comment on this.

I'm suggesting give credit where credit is due.

Rand Paul is more than TEA Party.

Are you suggesting that this one intelligent act by Rand Paul legitimizes everything the Tea Party stands for?

Cosmo

unsung wrote:

Those Pauls are alright!

I'd like to see one of you that is against Israel (every israel thread is full of you) comment on this.

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I have been saying this for the past 30 years or so. Part of the reason why we are so hated in the Arab region is because of our unwavering support of Israel... even when Israel should be condemned for some of the shit they pull.
I'm not saying go anti-Israel... I'm saying take a non-biased, objective view of actions and events in the Middle East. Call out both Israeli and Arab aggression whenever it occurs, instead of defaulting to Israel's side every single time.

polaris_x

i am all in favour of cuts to aid to israel, especially of the military sort ... i don't think america should be cutting education funding tho ...

mikepegg44

Byrnzie wrote:

unsung wrote:

Those Pauls are alright!

I'd like to see one of you that is against Israel (every israel thread is full of you) comment on this.

Are you suggesting that this one intelligent act by Rand Paul legitimizes everything the Tea Party stands for?

I would love to know what you think the tea party stands for

Byrnzie

mikepegg44 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

unsung wrote:

Those Pauls are alright!

I'd like to see one of you that is against Israel (every israel thread is full of you) comment on this.

Are you suggesting that this one intelligent act by Rand Paul legitimizes everything the Tea Party stands for?

I would love to know what you think the tea party stands for

The Tea Party stands for many things, most of them based on knee-jerk reactionism to the policies of Obama, and which feed on fear and the gullibility and ignorance of the public.

Mostly just a bunch of yahoo's using misinformation and paranoia to whip up support for their circus.

whygohome

Byrnzie wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Are you suggesting that this one intelligent act by Rand Paul legitimizes everything the Tea Party stands for?

I would love to know what you think the tea party stands for

The Tea Party stands for many things, most of them based on knee-jerk reactionism to the policies of Obama, and which feed on fear and the gullibility and ignorance of the public.

Mostly just a bunch of yahoo's using misinformation and paranoia to whip up support for their circus.

I thought that the TEA Party stood for Taxed Enough Already. They came into being right after Obama raised taxes on the lower and middle class. You know, after Bigfoot opened a restaurant in Eugene, Oregon, and after Dracula appeared on Jeopardy.

Cosmo

whygohome wrote:

I thought that the TEA Party stood for Taxed Enough Already. They came into being right after Obama raised taxes on the lower and middle class. You know, after Bigfoot opened a restaurant in Eugene, Oregon, and after Dracula appeared on Jeopardy.

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Don't you dare touch my Medicare... you socialist, commies.

mikepegg44

Byrnzie wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Are you suggesting that this one intelligent act by Rand Paul legitimizes everything the Tea Party stands for?

I would love to know what you think the tea party stands for

The Tea Party stands for many things, most of them based on knee-jerk reactionism to the policies of Obama, and which feed on fear and the gullibility and ignorance of the public.

Mostly just a bunch of yahoo's using misinformation and paranoia to whip up support for their circus.

do you like the 360 degree views in your glass house?

Byrnzie

mikepegg44 wrote:

do you like the 360 degree views in your glass house?

I don't use misinformation and fear to gain support. I'm also not allied to any politician or party. So your lame comment is just hot air.

mikepegg44

Byrnzie wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

do you like the 360 degree views in your glass house?

I don't use misinformation and fear to gain support. I'm also not allied to any politician or party. So your lame comment is just hot air.

no but you sure do constantly bash people for generalizing and taking the medias reports as truth...sure seems like that is what you are doing here.

CROJAM95

The Tea party is a bunch of idiots who finally realized their support of W. Was a real bad idea years after people who don't have their head up their asses did! So they made a fruity, angry, RACIST club to fool people in thinking they are not Reflubicans and have no hand in out sourcing, war mongering, and killing the middle class

mikepegg44

CROJAM95 wrote:

The Tea party is a bunch of idiots who finally realized their support of W. Was a real bad idea years after people who don't have their head up their asses did! So they made a fruity, angry, RACIST club to fool people in thinking they are not Reflubicans and have no hand in out sourcing, war mongering, and killing the middle class

nothing quite like having it completely wrong.

keep underestimating them, keep trying to make them all seem like crazy fools. Oh i get it, you don't want masses of people getting involved in government unless they agree with you. millions of people finally wake up and realize the feds aren't the answer to all of life's ills and you people talk about them with half truths and deliberate lies. I love it.
Are they perfect ... no not at all, are there factions of the TEA party movement that are idiots...absolutely,
but please tell me what is wrong with the idea that uncle sam takes too much money?

CROJAM95

Where were they when Bush spent like a fool?? That's where they lose all credibility with me. They are republicans who just want a clean slate and run from the mess they helped create by electing idiots like Bush, Delay and all the loons on the right.

They don't care about spending, it's because the money might help people in this country rather than blowing up a middle eastern hut instead!! How can they talk about hand outs for people, when the ultra rich in this country are just as guilty as pandering.... And all the oil companies that are Not paying taxes...... Cry to them.

mikepegg44

CROJAM95 wrote:

Where were they when Bush spent like a fool?? That's where they lose all credibility with me. They are republicans who just want a clean slate and run from the mess they helped create by electing idiots like Bush, Delay and all the loons on the right.

They don't care about spending, it's because the money might help people in this country rather than blowing up a middle eastern hut instead!! How can they talk about hand outs for people, when the ultra rich in this country are just as guilty as pandering.... And all the oil companies that are Not paying taxes...... Cry to them.

http://www.bostontea.us/program

read this and tell me they didn't exist prior to jan of 2009

looks like they were for some stuff you would agree with...