GOP pushing for bill to mandate recording of online activity

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edited January 2011 in A Moving Train
Good to see that republicans are trying to protect our freedom... :roll:


GOP pushing for ISPs to record user data
by Declan McCullagh

The House Republicans' first major technology initiative is about to be unveiled: a push to force Internet companies to keep track of what their users are doing.

A House panel chaired by Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin is scheduled to hold a hearing tomorrow morning to discuss forcing Internet providers, and perhaps Web companies as well, to store records of their users' activities for later review by police.

One focus will be on reviving a dormant proposal for data retention that would require companies to store Internet Protocol (IP) addresses for two years, CNET has learned.

Tomorrow's data retention hearing is juxtaposed against the recent trend to protect Internet users' privacy by storing less data. Last month, the Federal Trade Commission called for "limited retention" of user data on privacy grounds, and in the last 24 hours, both Mozilla and Google have announced do-not-track technology.
A Judiciary committee aide provided a statement this afternoon saying "the purpose of this hearing is to examine the need for retention of certain data by Internet service providers to facilitate law enforcement investigations of Internet child pornography and other Internet crimes," but declined to elaborate.

Thanks to the GOP takeover of the House, the odds of such legislation advancing have markedly increased. The new chairman of the House Judiciary committee is Lamar Smith of Texas, who previously introduced a data retention bill. Sensenbrenner, the new head of the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security, had similar plans but never introduced legislation. (It's not purely a partisan issue: Rep. Diana DeGette, a Colorado Democrat, was the first to announce such a proposal.)

Police and prosecutors are the biggest backers of data retention. FBI director Robert Mueller has said that forcing companies to store those records about users would be "tremendously helpful in giving us a historic basis to make a case" in investigations, especially child porn cases. An FBI attorney said last year that Mueller supports storing Internet users' "origin and destination information," meaning logs of which Web sites are visited.

And the International Association of Chiefs of Police, which will be sending a representative to tomorrow's hearing, previously adopted a resolution (PDF) calling for a "uniform data retention mandate" for "customer subscriber information and source and destination information." The group said today in an e-mail exchange that it still supports that resolution.

Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the free-market Cato Institute, says the push for legislation is an example of pro-regulatory Republicans. "Republicans were put in power to limit the size and scope of the federal government," Harper said. "And they're working to grow the federal government, increase its intrusiveness, and I fail to see where the Fourth Amendment permits the government to require dragnet surveillance of Internet users."

Representing the Obama administration at tomorrow's hearing will be Jason Weinstein, deputy assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's criminal division, who has previously testified (PDF) on intellectual property infringement and was chief of the violent crime section of the U.S. Attorney's office in Baltimore.

For now, the scope of any mandatory data retention law remains hazy. It could mean forcing companies to store data for two years about what Internet addresses are assigned to which customers (Comcast said in 2006 that it would be retaining those records for six months).

Or it could be more intrusive, sweeping in online service providers, and involve keeping track of e-mail and instant-messaging correspondence and what Web pages users visit. Some Democratic politicians have previously called for data retention laws to extend to domain name registries and Web hosting companies and even social-networking sites. The police chiefs' proposal talks about storing information about "destinations" that Internet users visit.

AOL said today that "we are waiting to see the proposed legislation to understand what data needs to be retained and for what time period."

These concepts are not exactly new. In June 2005, CNET was the first to report that the Justice Department was quietly shopping around the idea, reversing the department's previous position that it had "serious reservations about broad mandatory data retention regimes." Despite support from the FBI and the Bush Justice Department, however, the proposals languished amid concerns about privacy, liability, cost, and scope. (Would coffee shops, for instance, be required to ID users and log their activities?)

Retention vs. preservation
At the moment, ISPs typically discard any log file that's no longer required for business reasons such as network monitoring, fraud prevention, or billing disputes. Companies do, however, alter that general rule when contacted by police performing an investigation--a practice called data preservation.
A 1996 federal law called the Electronic Communication Transactional Records Act regulates data preservation. It requires Internet providers to retain any "record" in their possession for 90 days "upon the request of a governmental entity."

Because Internet addresses remain a relatively scarce commodity, ISPs tend to allocate them to customers from a pool based on whether a computer is in use at the time. (Two standard techniques used are the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol and Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet.)
In addition, Internet providers are required by another federal law to report child pornography sightings to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which is in turn charged with forwarding that report to the appropriate police agency.

When adopting its data retention rules, the European Parliament required that communications providers in its 25 member countries--several of which had enacted their own data retention laws already--retain customer data for a minimum of six months and a maximum of two years.

The Europe-wide requirement applies to a wide variety of "traffic" and "location" data, including the identities of the customers' correspondents; the date, time, and duration of phone calls, voice over Internet Protocol calls or e-mail messages; and the location of the device used for the communications. The "content" of the communications is not supposed to be retained.

But last March, a German court declared the national data retention law to be unconstitutional


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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    There's gotta be middle ground, they will use the child porno stuff as an excuse to get their foot in the door, o.k. fine, but next thing you know your getting fired for being on facebook too much.
  • I get nervous any time the Republicans and Democrats agree on something. Especially when that something is in regards to privacy matters.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    but next thing you know your getting fired for being on facebook too much.


    That already happens. Most companies record EVERY keystroke made on their systems, even if the words are deleted before making in on the internet.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    unsung wrote:
    but next thing you know your getting fired for being on facebook too much.


    That already happens. Most companies record EVERY keystroke made on their systems, even if the words are deleted before making in on the internet.

    we have that here, it's used when a person is a constant problem.

    Godfather.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    unsung wrote:
    but next thing you know your getting fired for being on facebook too much.


    That already happens. Most companies record EVERY keystroke made on their systems, even if the words are deleted before making in on the internet.
    Like just what you're typing? Even if you hit backspace before you press enter? :shock:
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    unsung wrote:
    but next thing you know your getting fired for being on facebook too much.


    That already happens. Most companies record EVERY keystroke made on their systems, even if the words are deleted before making in on the internet.

    I work in IT and have worked in many companies. this is not true at all
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    haffajappa wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    but next thing you know your getting fired for being on facebook too much.


    That already happens. Most companies record EVERY keystroke made on their systems, even if the words are deleted before making in on the internet.
    Like just what you're typing? Even if you hit backspace before you press enter? :shock:


    yes, there are ghost programs that can run and record every key you hit, even if you delete it out before sending it as long as you typed it it got recorded into the program....typos and all. they can also take screenshots intermittently and record conversations in chat programs
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    well, according to this forum obama is an uber progressive and the most liberal president in history, right?? so naturally being as such he will veto this if it is passed, right?

    bush had balls to veto the SCHIP funding increase, i wonder if obama will sprout a pair and veto something or will he play the role of the typical democrat which is to complain a lot but in reality be nothing but a rubber stamp for everything he cries about
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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