Your next PJ show might be less expensive

Godfather.

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Godfather.

StillHere

hahaha Godfather

we WISH that applied to us

Remind me again, how much did we pay for this privilege?

If I get in, I can't complain

Seems not that long ago (but it was) that we used to hop the train to Philly and the Tower or the Spectrum to see a show just because there was nothing else to do..hahaaaa...those days are gone...i don't remember the ticket prices, but they could have only been a couple of bucks at the time.

AND standing outside in line at the local record store because that's where Ticketmaster was...for hours, sometimes days on end. Oh..those were the days hahaaaa..when we were young and thus amazed.


(NOT my ticket btw, i was in section 71..not bad)

Godfather.

Good morning jo, back in the 70's when I went to my first major concert (queen) my ticket for lower loge seating cost me $7....I couldn't afford the $12 for front row ha ha ha ha.

my second concert was at a venue called the Balboa bowl in San Diego with Jethro Tull (first ever big screen called the "Tull-o-vision"), Robin Trower,Rory Gallagher,Star Castle and a few others that have escaped me right now and that show cost me and my then girlfriend combined $2 and four cans of tuna...what a show !

it would be nice to hit a few more shows if the price goes down a little, my son would like that, he's been wanting me to take him to a concert.

Godfather.

blackredyellow

Probably won't effect PJ ticket prices much... the shows sell pretty well and tickets are still probably pretty average.

The tickets that will take a hit are the "has-been" acts that tour every summer... I mean are fans of people like Rod Stewart, Bon Jovi, The Eagles, etc etc going to keep shelling out $150-$200 every summer to see pretty much the same show? How they've milked the cash cow this long amazes me. Even Tom Petty, who I really like had ticket prices of like $135 for top price tickets. Who really can afford to go to more than a show or two like that a year. You figure, two tickets, parking, a couple beers, maybe a t shirt and you spent like $350-$400 on a few hours.

Production costs are ridiculous too... I work in an arena, and some of the crap that these shows carry is obnoxious... 20+ trucks, local expenses (stagehands, rent, marketing, etc.), plus all their tour expenses (trucks, equipment, traveling staff/labor, catering, buses, hotels, etc), a lot of these tours don't make much...

I think that you will see more package tours too... Country is already doing this and being successful, putting two headliners out together. You save on all that production and even if tickets are $100+ fans get some more value for their money.

StillHere

Godfather. wrote:

Good morning jo, back in the 70's when I went to my first major concert (queen) my ticket for lower loge seating cost me $7....I couldn't afford the $12 for front row ha ha ha ha.

my second concert was at a venue called the Balboa bowl in San Diego with Jethro Tull (first ever big screen called the "Tull-o-vision"), Robin Trower,Rory Gallagher,Star Castle and a few others that have escaped me right now and that show cost me and my then girlfriend combined $2 and four cans of tuna...what a show !

it would be nice to hit a few more shows if the price goes down a little, my son would like that, he's been wanting me to take him to a concert.

Godfather.

ahhh Godfather. The good ol' days. I think my first "real" concert (we had some pretty popular bands stop by John & Peter's in New Hope where I grew up but they didn't count lol!) ... was probably Foghat and Leslie West & Mountain at the Spectrum in Philly in the early to mid (prob early) 70s..we must be about the same age, you and I. It had to have been dirt cheap..of course, prices are all relative. We used to catch probably at least one show a month in the spring and summer, and a couple over the winter. Traveled as a pack on the trains from New Hope (tiny little hamlet in PA) to Philly. Got stranded a few times at 30th or penn station since the last train out was midnight. We had nickels for those little sign-mounted tvs so we were all good. geez, seems like yesterday. I remember seeing Bruce Springsteen (sometimes w the East St Band) at the Stone Pony or on the Boardwalk in Asbury Park. He was a newbie (a nobody ha! who coulda known!) Next thing you know we're seeing him play a headliner new year's eve show at the Tower in philly. But my big love was Jerry Garcia and The Grateful Dead. Where they went, I went, well, within reason .. or not . Thankfully they did a lot of east coast touring back then...oh and Hot Tuna. My mainstays. Surprised me to see that Jorma Kaukonen (Jefferson Airplane/Hot Tuna) is currently doing a small venue tour including some East Coast dates..but tickets are astronomical. been checking out some of our local Philly area young talent....there are some amazing bands out there right now. (and its < $5 a show) HONOR comes to mind. Pretty friendly group of young guys....maybe one day I can say, ahhh i knew them when...heheheheee

These days though, with ticket prices so high, it's been only Pearl Jam...at just over $200 a pair, and considering the number of east coast dates last season, well, it gets pretty expensive right? Factor in all the other costs associated with visiting another city and there ya go. If Ed does a local show here in the Philly area or NYC, I'll def want to check that out..for sure! Oh and I do want to check out some of the comebacks, like AIC, STP and SG .(missed the spring show here last may b/c it was the day after MSG II..and well, you know :roll: ) Other than that, keeping it local, and affordable Despite all that complaining..I'll see you at the show :wave: I think we're in for a year of good treats (I'd love to see lower ticket prices, but not banking on it. Be there with bells on regardless :wave: )

That would be cool if you got to take your son. Nowadays though, my son takes ME! Well, sometimes. He was at Newark and MSG I with me this past year. he couldn't stay for MSG II ..work and all. Course, he's an adult with a family of his own now, and I have him to thank way back when for introducing me to Pearl Jam, so it's only fitting that we celebrate together.

See you on the flip side GF. Hope Santie Claus was good to you! (I got new headphones and a new cd player from Santa...Binaural revisited here i come! )

PEACE

jo

Jeanwah

blackredyellow wrote:

Probably won't effect PJ ticket prices much...

I agree. It's the reason I probably will never be able attend PJ show again. Feeble people like me who can't afford expensive Pearl Jam tickets are shafted! I certainly don't call $90 tickets "average" by any means...

But I digress. Most 10C members will pay anything to see them, band management knows this and totally takes advantage... The integrity the band once had for the fan is truly gone.

Godfather.

hay jo.....no Hendrix joke intended found this for you,enjoy.

Godfather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhA_ELTu28

Godfather.

Jeanwah wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

Probably won't effect PJ ticket prices much...

I agree. It's the reason I probably will never be able attend PJ show again. Feeble people like me who can't afford expensive Pearl Jam tickets are shafted! I certainly don't call $90 tickets "average" by any means...

But I digress. Most 10C members will pay anything to see them, band management knows this and totally takes advantage... The integrity the band once had for the fan is truly gone.

Jenwah I have to agree with you, I myself am a cheep feeble bastard
I realize it cost a ton of money to put on a show but it has just got to the point where I can't afford it anymore
unless I score some freebies through some friends on the reservation, I have seen some cool shows that way
in the past few years.

Godfather.

Byrnzie

Jeanwah wrote:

The integrity the band once had for the fan is truly gone.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. I'm sure the band would disagree.

stargirl69

I'd pay the ticket price to see Pearl Jam if they actually put any dates in Scotland on their European itinerary these days.
They have truly pissed me of over the years,they have played here twice in a 20 year history.In my youth I spent a fortune travelling Europe and Britain to see them but with the increase in ticket prices and the cost of travel and accommodation it hikes the price up to an unmanageable amount.I will not see them again unless they start adding Scottish dates.

I have many ticket stubs framed and was looking at them a few days ago ... My first Soundgarden ticket cost £7 the last time I saw them it cost £35

Byrnzie

stargirl69 wrote:

I have many ticket stubs framed and was looking at them a few days ago ... My first Soundgarden ticket cost £7 the last time I saw them it cost £35

So it's not just Pearl Jam concerts that are expensive then, which leads me to wonder whether ticket pricing isn't something that's within a bands control?

stargirl69

Byrnzie wrote:

stargirl69 wrote:

I have many ticket stubs framed and was looking at them a few days ago ... My first Soundgarden ticket cost £7 the last time I saw them it cost £35

So it's not just Pearl Jam concerts that are expensive then, which leads me to wonder whether ticket pricing isn't something that's within a bands control?

No I definitely don't think it's just Pearl Jam tickets ... I think it's all tickets .... my recent comparisons

Rush first time £35,this tour £75
U2 first time £17,last tour £65
White Stripes first time £15,last tour £50

I think there are many factors to take in to account,all round tighter security,bigger venues,bigger fancier shows ... I remember being stunned the first time I paid £50 for a concert ticket,Fleetwood Mac ... now £50 seems average for 10-12.000 seat arena

Best of Times

I'm voting for the "Tickets Are Too Damn High" party next time...

I don't know how much it costs to put on a show, or even what a band like PJ makes on an average show, but tix in 2000 were $30-35. Last year, $100. That's %300 increase in 10 years. At this pace, PJ WILL be chargin $250-300 by 2020, and will be just like the Eagles, thr Rolling Stones, etc. (Except the Eagles suck.)

300% increase? The band is "Walking the CASH Cow".

But I still pay it....

StillHere

Godfather. wrote:

hay jo.....no Hendrix joke intended found this for you,enjoy.

Godfather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhA_ELTu28

ahhhh Godfather
A man after my own heart
Thank you!

Come to think of it, I might just have to swing for that ticket now.

hey jo....hahaaaaa
where you goin'...with that *song in your head*?

StillHere

Byrnzie wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

The integrity the band once had for the fan is truly gone.

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. I'm sure the band would disagree.

I would disagree as well

When they have control over things, they have lowered ticket prices in the past, or offered cheaper seats

There is too much input and control from outside sources.

I'm sure its not just a PJ problem...

I don't go see many other bands

but i was just talking with Godfather

about Jorma coming to town (an old favorite)

but that the ticket prices are nearly prohibitive

And Jorma hasn't been *popular* (in the broadest sense of the word) since the late 70s

so its not just us people

and i think the band would do what it can, the individual members

to get us some good music on the sly

examples: brad, mike's hootenanny, the $25 tix that were avail for the WM3 gig, numerous other things ...but the corporate side is not going to let precious PJ tix go for cheap

That being said, it would be super nice if 10C members got some kind of a break on prices, right?

StillHere

oh and you know, its not the ticket prices that are so bad alone

but when you combine them with the cost of traveling to and staying in, another city

wow, its just off the charts

with things that way, unless i have found some really great people who can't wait to have me on their sofa for a night, its going to be strictly local for me this year (notice I'm just assuming that shows are going to happen for us this year..no "ifs" in there..heheheheee)

so who takes advantage? i do. that's who.

lukin2006

I'll have to defend U2, I paid 30 plus fees to see U2 on the 360 tour, now mind you they weren't the premium seats but the sound was good and the pricing made it possible to go. As for PJ I think they charged 90 across the board no matter where the seats are. I disagree with that form of pricing and probably their next tour they will have various price points. But I like every one else has the choice not to go, but it is getting to the point that a lot of fans simply can not afford to go.

aerial

Byrnzie wrote:

stargirl69 wrote:

I have many ticket stubs framed and was looking at them a few days ago ... My first Soundgarden ticket cost £7 the last time I saw them it cost £35

So it's not just Pearl Jam concerts that are expensive then, which leads me to wonder whether ticket pricing isn't something that's within a bands control?

This used to be called "Selling Out"...when a band gives control to Big Bussiness...
We all fight the system when we are young....as Pearl Jam did in a larger way than any other band. Face it Pearl Jam is just like all the others now ( in bussiness )

StillHere

aerial wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

stargirl69 wrote:

I have many ticket stubs framed and was looking at them a few days ago ... My first Soundgarden ticket cost £7 the last time I saw them it cost £35

So it's not just Pearl Jam concerts that are expensive then, which leads me to wonder whether ticket pricing isn't something that's within a bands control?

This used to be called "Selling Out"...when a band gives control to Big Bussiness...
We all fight the system when we are young....as Pearl Jam did in a larger way than any other band. Face it Pearl Jam is just like all the others now ( in bussiness )

they've got to plan for their retirements and for their kids too
just as anyone
so many years they fought for what they thought was right
sooner or later they've got to plan for their families
can't blame them at all
not one bit

aerial

I understand that but why the complete turn around? It's unfortunate that people changed with experience, greed and materialism.
I’m not blaming Pearl Jam it seems all humans change once they receive fortunes.

StillHere

aerial wrote:

I understand that but why the complete turn around? It's unfortunate that people changed with experience, greed and materialism.
I’m not blaming Pearl Jam it seems all humans change once they receive fortunes.

whether you receive fortune or not
do you not want to provide for the best life possible for your children once you're gone
after all your choices are not necessarily theirs
that's how i'm seeing it
not necessarily that they "changed" as that they've become family men