Your next PJ show might be less expensive
Godfather.
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Godfather.
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Godfather.
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we WISH that applied to us
Remind me again, how much did we pay for this privilege?
If I get in, I can't complain
Seems not that long ago (but it was) that we used to hop the train to Philly and the Tower or the Spectrum to see a show just because there was nothing else to do..hahaaaa...those days are gone...i don't remember the ticket prices, but they could have only been a couple of bucks at the time.
AND standing outside in line at the local record store because that's where Ticketmaster was...for hours, sometimes days on end. Oh..those were the days hahaaaa..when we were young and thus amazed.
(NOT my ticket btw, i was in section 71..not bad)
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
my second concert was at a venue called the Balboa bowl in San Diego with Jethro Tull (first ever big screen called the "Tull-o-vision"), Robin Trower,Rory Gallagher,Star Castle and a few others that have escaped me right now and that show cost me and my then girlfriend combined $2 and four cans of tuna...what a show !
it would be nice to hit a few more shows if the price goes down a little, my son would like that, he's been wanting me to take him to a concert.
Godfather.
The tickets that will take a hit are the "has-been" acts that tour every summer... I mean are fans of people like Rod Stewart, Bon Jovi, The Eagles, etc etc going to keep shelling out $150-$200 every summer to see pretty much the same show? How they've milked the cash cow this long amazes me. Even Tom Petty, who I really like had ticket prices of like $135 for top price tickets. Who really can afford to go to more than a show or two like that a year. You figure, two tickets, parking, a couple beers, maybe a t shirt and you spent like $350-$400 on a few hours.
Production costs are ridiculous too... I work in an arena, and some of the crap that these shows carry is obnoxious... 20+ trucks, local expenses (stagehands, rent, marketing, etc.), plus all their tour expenses (trucks, equipment, traveling staff/labor, catering, buses, hotels, etc), a lot of these tours don't make much...
I think that you will see more package tours too... Country is already doing this and being successful, putting two headliners out together. You save on all that production and even if tickets are $100+ fans get some more value for their money.
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
ahhh Godfather. The good ol' days. I think my first "real" concert (we had some pretty popular bands stop by John & Peter's in New Hope where I grew up but they didn't count lol!) ... was probably Foghat and Leslie West & Mountain at the Spectrum in Philly in the early to mid (prob early) 70s..we must be about the same age, you and I. It had to have been dirt cheap..of course, prices are all relative. We used to catch probably at least one show a month in the spring and summer, and a couple over the winter. Traveled as a pack on the trains from New Hope (tiny little hamlet in PA) to Philly. Got stranded a few times at 30th or penn station since the last train out was midnight. We had nickels for those little sign-mounted tvs so we were all good. geez, seems like yesterday. I remember seeing Bruce Springsteen (sometimes w the East St Band) at the Stone Pony or on the Boardwalk in Asbury Park. He was a newbie (a nobody ha! who coulda known!) Next thing you know we're seeing him play a headliner new year's eve show at the Tower in philly.
These days though, with ticket prices so high, it's been only Pearl Jam...at just over $200 a pair, and considering the number of east coast dates last season, well, it gets pretty expensive right? Factor in all the other costs associated with visiting another city and there ya go. If Ed does a local show here in the Philly area or NYC, I'll def want to check that out..for sure! Oh and I do want to check out some of the comebacks, like AIC, STP and SG .(missed the spring show here last may b/c it was the day after MSG II..and well, you know :roll: ) Other than that, keeping it local, and affordable
That would be cool if you got to take your son. Nowadays though, my son takes ME! Well, sometimes. He was at Newark and MSG I with me this past year. he couldn't stay for MSG II ..work and all. Course, he's an adult with a family of his own now, and I have him to thank way back when for introducing me to Pearl Jam, so it's only fitting that we celebrate together.
See you on the flip side GF. Hope Santie Claus was good to you! (I got new headphones and a new cd player from Santa...Binaural revisited here i come! )
PEACE
jo
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
I agree. It's the reason I probably will never be able attend PJ show again. Feeble people like me who can't afford expensive Pearl Jam tickets are shafted! I certainly don't call $90 tickets "average" by any means...
But I digress. Most 10C members will pay anything to see them, band management knows this and totally takes advantage... The integrity the band once had for the fan is truly gone.
Godfather.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJhA_ELTu28
Jenwah I have to agree with you, I myself am a cheep feeble bastard
I realize it cost a ton of money to put on a show but it has just got to the point where I can't afford it anymore
unless I score some freebies through some friends on the reservation, I have seen some cool shows that way
in the past few years.
Godfather.
That's a bit of a sweeping statement. I'm sure the band would disagree.
They have truly pissed me of over the years,they have played here twice in a 20 year history.In my youth I spent a fortune travelling Europe and Britain to see them but with the increase in ticket prices and the cost of travel and accommodation it hikes the price up to an unmanageable amount.I will not see them again unless they start adding Scottish dates.
I have many ticket stubs framed and was looking at them a few days ago ... My first Soundgarden ticket cost £7 the last time I saw them it cost £35
So it's not just Pearl Jam concerts that are expensive then, which leads me to wonder whether ticket pricing isn't something that's within a bands control?
No I definitely don't think it's just Pearl Jam tickets ... I think it's all tickets .... my recent comparisons
Rush first time £35,this tour £75
U2 first time £17,last tour £65
White Stripes first time £15,last tour £50
I think there are many factors to take in to account,all round tighter security,bigger venues,bigger fancier shows ... I remember being stunned the first time I paid £50 for a concert ticket,Fleetwood Mac ... now £50 seems average for 10-12.000 seat arena
I don't know how much it costs to put on a show, or even what a band like PJ makes on an average show, but tix in 2000 were $30-35. Last year, $100. That's %300 increase in 10 years. At this pace, PJ WILL be chargin $250-300 by 2020, and will be just like the Eagles, thr Rolling Stones, etc. (Except the Eagles suck.)
300% increase? The band is "Walking the CASH Cow".
But I still pay it....
ahhhh Godfather
A man after my own heart
Thank you!
Come to think of it, I might just have to swing for that ticket now.
hey jo....hahaaaaa
where you goin'...with that *song in your head*?
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
I would disagree as well
When they have control over things, they have lowered ticket prices in the past, or offered cheaper seats
There is too much input and control from outside sources.
I'm sure its not just a PJ problem...
I don't go see many other bands
but i was just talking with Godfather
about Jorma coming to town (an old favorite)
but that the ticket prices are nearly prohibitive
And Jorma hasn't been *popular* (in the broadest sense of the word) since the late 70s
so its not just us people
and i think the band would do what it can, the individual members
to get us some good music on the sly
examples: brad, mike's hootenanny, the $25 tix that were avail for the WM3 gig, numerous other things ...but the corporate side is not going to let precious PJ tix go for cheap
That being said, it would be super nice if 10C members got some kind of a break on prices, right?
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
but when you combine them with the cost of traveling to and staying in, another city
wow, its just off the charts
with things that way, unless i have found some really great people who can't wait to have me on their sofa for a night, its going to be strictly local for me this year (notice I'm just assuming that shows are going to happen for us this year..no "ifs" in there..heheheheee)
so who takes advantage? i do. that's who.
jo
http://www.Etsy.com/Shop/SimpleEarthCreations
"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
This used to be called "Selling Out"...when a band gives control to Big Bussiness...
We all fight the system when we are young....as Pearl Jam did in a larger way than any other band. Face it Pearl Jam is just like all the others now ( in bussiness )
they've got to plan for their retirements and for their kids too
just as anyone
so many years they fought for what they thought was right
sooner or later they've got to plan for their families
can't blame them at all
not one bit
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
I’m not blaming Pearl Jam it seems all humans change once they receive fortunes.
whether you receive fortune or not
do you not want to provide for the best life possible for your children once you're gone
after all your choices are not necessarily theirs
that's how i'm seeing it
not necessarily that they "changed" as that they've become family men
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
"Back when we were on tour last spring,we asked everybody to take a cut (in profits) - we were taking a cut, and we said if we're gonna work with you, you have to do the same, because we're not going to take as much money from our fans as everyone would like. Ticketmaster didn't want to take a cut. We felt the service charge they were asking for was disproportionate to the ticket price we were offering. If you have a $55 Rolling Stones ticket and there's a $3-6 service charge, okay. But ours was an $18.50 ticket, and now all of a sudden it's a $24 ticket. That's not right. I just want people to be able to see our shows. It's extremely important that it's available to everyone, that if they'd like to attend, they'd be able to. Also, when you start having $50 tickets, all of a sudden you're changing your audience. And that's a frightening thought, playing only to people that can afford a $50 ticket." Eddie Vedder 1994
Yes, I know he said this 16 years ago, but the point is that he said it, and really meant it then.
He clearly no longer feels this way toward the fans. It's quite obvious.
There's a difference between securing your children's futures economically, and securing it to the point that their inheritance is quite more than substantial. One can only imagine exactly how well off these guys are. I just don't buy the whole "they're looking out for their kids". I'm sure their kids will do just fine.
well, ya it was a while back, but if you really feel that way, jean, write them a letter...they just might read it.
i would complain too, as i'm a poor person these days, but it wouldn't be sincere, because although i'd LOVE to have cheaper tix and go to more shows, i have to admit i'll find a way to pay for it no matter how much it is. its people like me that your point is about right? i understand it. i really do. i don't have the money to spend on $200 ticket pairs. i did that earlier this year and caught 3 shows. plus hotel for the overnight (luckily there were a group of us splitting hotel cuz NYC is outta this world), and i paid for that for a while. it was money that could have been better spent elsewhere .... like bills and stuff. but i try to look at it this way...i don't do anything for myself all year long. my money is always spent on household, kids and grandkids. that's been my life for the last 30+ years...so once a year (or less), PJ rolls around, and its expensive yes, and i shouldn't spend it, no, but i do, and i will continue to, because its the ONLY thing i get for me. and i think that's how it might go for many of us. I'm sorry tickets are so high. its hard for me too. and i hope you do get to catch a show. i think you need to...just for you
it used to be the grateful dead, but back then i had more money..it seems like but probably not, relatively speaking. i don't think i would be so upset about missing a dead show as i am about missing a pj show though. hmmm...odd..i just thought about that.
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
and yes, you read that right.
I understand your POV, but I'm at a point where, although the music will always mean a lot to me, paying sky-high prices for concert tickets for anyone is not a priority. I've adjusted to enjoying bands that keep prices low and play in smaller (which provides a better show anyway) venues.
Michael Franti, for instance, got bigger and more popular while playing with John Mayer last year and could have commanded larger venues and higher tix prices. But because his fans begged him to keep playing smaller venues, he actually has, and his prices have gone back down.
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I laughed so hard I think I just pee'd a little in my pants... are donny and marie opening for them ?
Sorry man I couldn't help myself.
Godfather.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon