and to say that there is physiological evidence that bitching is not something we can control is ludicrous. sure people have horomones and shit, but come on, don't discount the will and spirit of the human brain. I couldn't will myself out of depression, so I got drugs! Yay drugs! But everyday stuff, meh, don't care. Not worth my time.
I choose not to be George Costanza. And I'm thankful for that too.
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Agreed again...being also a depression sufferer (especially this time of year) If I could "will" my self out of it
I would in a heart beat. Now, I work at it and try to stay up beat but it lingers in the background of your mind...
taunting..."ya, I am here you piece of shit...i will not make this easy for you." Its then I focus on the other thing I am thankful for, My wife and kids... I look to them when those times hit me hard, knowing full well that all I need is a good strong hug from any one of them and I feel better.
So very Thankful for my family.
"...And I fight back in my mind. Never lets me be right.
I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
I have recently been getting really irritated by all the negativity that surrounds me, mostly with miserable co workers. I am Canadian. I work at a place where there is virtually NO chance of ever downsizing (lottery business). We have excellent benefits, not too stressed, and people are still just fucking miserable. I'm basically at the bottom of the corporate ladder position- and salary-wise (I'm fine with that). I try my best to remain positive around these people, but sometimes it's just too much to bear. I carpool with my supervisor, and all he does is bitch about the traffic and the weather and now how much he hates the holiday season (preparation-wise), blah blah fucking blah. It's always something. Sometimes I just want to smack these people and say "what have you got to REALLY bitch about? NOTHING".
You have food. You have a big fucking house. You are healthy. What is your problem??
I am thankful that I have two wonderful and beautiful daughters, a loving wife, all of us are currently healthy, we have no debt (except our mortgage of course), and everyone in my family is generally ok. I am also thankful for my psychiatrist and my medication. Life is awesome. It is what you make it, really.
What are you thankful for?
Yo Paul, good post man. I was just talking about this with my best friend last night. He and I both were discussing how we have co-workers who 'have' a lot, but are very unappreciative. I used to be kind of a negative person, but a few years back I began to realize that even though I dont have many material things, I have a lot to be thankful for -- Mostly I am thankful that I open my eyes every morning. haha, that reminds me of a funny quote -- "everyday I break my record of consecutive days alive"... or something like that.
and nevermind that negativity, I just tihnk that person might not have gottten the gist of what you were saying -- I didnt think you were sounding like imposing anything on anyone.
Anyways just off the top of my head (and absolutely in no particular order):
my G/f
my Dad
electricity
the sun
Bob Ross re-runs
sense of smell
my Mom
pistachios
morning wood
physicists
my Grandmother
a guitar
neighbors
the ocean
toothpaste
the big bang
smiles
diversity
moles
positivity
...I could go on and on...
I have recently been getting really irritated by all the negativity that surrounds me, mostly with miserable co workers. I am Canadian. I work at a place where there is virtually NO chance of ever downsizing (lottery business). We have excellent benefits, not too stressed, and people are still just fucking miserable. I'm basically at the bottom of the corporate ladder position- and salary-wise (I'm fine with that). I try my best to remain positive around these people, but sometimes it's just too much to bear. I carpool with my supervisor, and all he does is bitch about the traffic and the weather and now how much he hates the holiday season (preparation-wise), blah blah fucking blah. It's always something. Sometimes I just want to smack these people and say "what have you got to REALLY bitch about? NOTHING".
You have food. You have a big fucking house. You are healthy. What is your problem??
I am thankful that I have two wonderful and beautiful daughters, a loving wife, all of us are currently healthy, we have no debt (except our mortgage of course), and everyone in my family is generally ok. I am also thankful for my psychiatrist and my medication. Life is awesome. It is what you make it, really.
What are you thankful for?
Yo Paul, good post man. I was just talking about this with my best friend last night. He and I both were discussing how we have co-workers who 'have' a lot, but are very unappreciative. I used to be kind of a negative person, but a few years back I began to realize that even though I dont have many material things, I have a lot to be thankful for -- Mostly I am thankful that I open my eyes every morning. haha, that reminds me of a funny quote -- "everyday I break my record of consecutive days alive"... or something like that.
and nevermind that negativity, I just tihnk that person might not have gottten the gist of what you were saying -- I didnt think you were sounding like imposing anything on anyone.
Anyways just off the top of my head (and absolutely in no particular order):
my G/f
my Dad
electricity
the sun
Bob Ross re-runs
sense of smell
my Mom
pistachios
morning wood
physicists
my Grandmother
a guitar
neighbors
the ocean
toothpaste
the big bang
smiles
diversity
moles
positivity
...I could go on and on...
Morning wood agreed but
"...And I fight back in my mind. Never lets me be right.
I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
I'm thankful I survived a near fatal car accident. I'm thankful I'm starting to walk again after having both femurs and hips broken. I'm thankful for my very caring family and the community I live in and for the love received. And even though I lost my job a month before the accident and I'm temporarily disabled and receiving no income, I'm still positive. Life's too short to be miserable.
When I feel that gross negativity in public it's enough to make me sick. I'd be so jealous of anyone who could walk, but many of those people I'd be jealous of were bitter and unhappy. I still don't understand it; we have so much, but nothing is ever enough for some people.
I am thankful for embracing an "attitude of gratitude" this past year. Really focused on it...
I am thankful my 3 children and wonderful wife are healthy and that we'll all be together for Christmas.
I am thankful for the abilty to hear, the ability to see and the ability to breathe and walk on my own.
I'm thankful I survived a near fatal car accident. I'm thankful I'm starting to walk again after having both femurs and hips broken. I'm thankful for my very caring family and the community I live in and for the love received. And even though I lost my job a month before the accident and I'm temporarily disabled and receiving no income, I'm still positive. Life's too short to be miserable.
When I feel that gross negativity in public it's enough to make me sick. I'd be so jealous of anyone who could walk, but many of those people I'd be jealous of were bitter and unhappy. I still don't understand it; we have so much, but nothing is ever enough for some people.
Your post makes me feel like a big baby - I'm on crutches for 4 weeks because I have a tiny crack in my kneecap and I'm complaining like it's the end of the world. You're so right, we should concentrate on being positive. Duh, it makes life so much easier. And much more pleasant. Thank you for posting this, Jeanwah.
I'm thankful for my husband and two great kids, wonderful friends and family. Crazy pets. Food on the table (I'm making fruitcake today - yikes). There's so much - I guess I'm thankful there's so much to be thankful about.
If anybody wants to read something to make them feel good, check out A Secret Gift by Ted Gup.
"Shortly before Christmas 1933 in Depression-scarred Canton, Ohio, a small newspaper ad offered $10, no strings attached, to 75 families in distress. Interested readers were asked to submit letters describing their hardships to a benefactor calling himself Mr. B. Virdot. A Secret Gift’s author's grandfather Sam Stone was inspired to place this ad and assist his fellow Cantonians as they prepared for the cruelest Christmas most of them would ever witness."
I'm thankful I survived a near fatal car accident. I'm thankful I'm starting to walk again after having both femurs and hips broken. I'm thankful for my very caring family and the community I live in and for the love received. And even though I lost my job a month before the accident and I'm temporarily disabled and receiving no income, I'm still positive. Life's too short to be miserable.
When I feel that gross negativity in public it's enough to make me sick. I'd be so jealous of anyone who could walk, but many of those people I'd be jealous of were bitter and unhappy. I still don't understand it; we have so much, but nothing is ever enough for some people.
Such a great reminder. Thanks, Jeanwah. You probably think I'm an ass (who doesn't?), but I really do wish you the best in your recovery.
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nuhhh uhhhh...get out :roll:
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I have recently been getting really irritated by all the negativity that surrounds me, mostly with miserable co workers. I am Canadian. I work at a place where there is virtually NO chance of ever downsizing (lottery business). We have excellent benefits, not too stressed, and people are still just fucking miserable. I'm basically at the bottom of the corporate ladder position- and salary-wise (I'm fine with that). I try my best to remain positive around these people, but sometimes it's just too much to bear. I carpool with my supervisor, and all he does is bitch about the traffic and the weather and now how much he hates the holiday season (preparation-wise), blah blah fucking blah. It's always something. Sometimes I just want to smack these people and say "what have you got to REALLY bitch about? NOTHING".
You have food. You have a big fucking house. You are healthy. What is your problem??
I am thankful that I have two wonderful and beautiful daughters, a loving wife, all of us are currently healthy, we have no debt (except our mortgage of course), and everyone in my family is generally ok. I am also thankful for my psychiatrist and my medication. Life is awesome. It is what you make it, really.
What are you thankful for?
I'll be the first to admit that I bitch sometimes, but never to an extent and I do realize the blessings in my life.
When people bitch about stuff like that, with the utmost sincerity it makes me really want to drop them off in a suffering third world country to observe how those people, of equal human value, live on a daily basis.
For the most part, our personal problems here in a America cannot hold a candle to the shit that a lot of the world's population goes through.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
family
my dog
music
girls
sex
beer
porn
sports
cell phone
internet
Wow. I cannot argue with any of this. Except maybe the cell phone. :think:
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
I'll be the first to admit that I bitch sometimes, but never to an extent and I do realize the blessings in my life.
When people bitch about stuff like that, with the utmost sincerity it makes me really want to drop them off in a suffering third world country to observe how those people, of equal human value, live on a daily basis.
For the most part, our personal problems here in a America cannot hold a candle to the shit that a lot of the world's population goes through.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
All I am doing is respectfully disagreeing with an opinion and countering with my own opinion through what I perceive to be logical argumentation. Attack the idea, and not the person, my friend... peace.
What gives you the right to decide what people should or should not complain about?
In terms of choosing to be miserable, there is physiological evidence that misery is an interaction between mental and hormonal factors. So much for choice, eh?
Enjoy your thankfulness
And, by the way, my opinion does not count for anything at all in the grand scheme of things, but I am sure yours does ... peace
Agreed PD, This is a great thread, Maybe his ScreenName has something to do with it? :?
Goes back to the old cliche` If you don't have anything nice to say, come sit by me....no no no
If you don't have anything nice to say, Say nothing at all.
Argumentation leads to meaning-making. I argue against your idea and I hope to learn more about my own opinions and their veracity as well as whether they might hold up to your logical counterpoints. Make your case and I shall retort with mine. Peace ...
What gives you the right to decide what people should or should not complain about?
In terms of choosing to be miserable, there is physiological evidence that misery is an interaction between mental and hormonal factors. So much for choice, eh?
Enjoy your thankfulness
And, by the way, my opinion does not count for anything at all in the grand scheme of things, but I am sure yours does ... peace
you choose to ignore empirical evidence and that is your prerogative. But to call it ludicrous smacks of prejudice. As paradigmatic scientific thinking about depression-related disorders (that you refer to as whining, bitching and moaning) develops, so does our view of how science attempts to illuminate what we consider to be purely mental.
Perhaps you could restate the logic in your argument as it has, thus far, eluded me completely. Peace ...
and to say that there is physiological evidence that bitching is not something we can control is ludicrous. sure people have horomones and shit, but come on, don't discount the will and spirit of the human brain. I couldn't will myself out of depression, so I got drugs! Yay drugs! But everyday stuff, meh, don't care. Not worth my time.
I choose not to be George Costanza. And I'm thankful for that too.
I NEVER referred to depression-related disorders as whining or bitching. I suffer from depression/anxiety. I wasn't talking about those types of afflictions, which I know more about than I really care to. Read my posts. I was talking about the everyday bullshit that people complain about (the weather, traffic, you know, inane shit), and then asking kindly what people were thankful for. You are talking on a whole other level that I never addressed, nor care to. it's not what this thread was about. there are a few other threads about your topic that I have also commented on, and I'm sure we'd agree to most of your points.
if you'd like to state what you are thankful for in life, you are more than welcome to it.
you choose to ignore empirical evidence and that is your prerogative. But to call it ludicrous smacks of prejudice. As paradigmatic scientific thinking about depression-related disorders (that you refer to as whining, bitching and moaning) develops, so does our view of how science attempts to illuminate what we consider to be purely mental.
Perhaps you could restate the logic in your argument as it has, thus far, eluded me completely. Peace ...
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Why did a pleasant thread turn into a bitch fest? :?
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
I'm thankful for my husband and two great kids, wonderful friends and family. Crazy pets. Food on the table (I'm making fruitcake today - yikes). There's so much - I guess I'm thankful there's so much to be thankful about.
My family
My friends
Peace
There are little lights of joy most days
No drama
Health
A home
A job
Music
Ice Cream
Books
The ability to laugh often
That I can challenge negativity when faced with it
Film
Coffee
A warm cosy bed,even although I'm alone in it now
Calm
Honesty
Potential
“There should be a place where only the things you want to happen, happen”
We tend to forget that happiness doesn't come as a result of getting something we don't have, but rather of recognizing and appreciating what we do have.
i am most thankful for family
and 2nd chances in life
Had my eyes peeled both wide open, and I got a glimpse
Of my innocence... got back my inner sense...
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I choose not to be George Costanza. And I'm thankful for that too.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I would in a heart beat. Now, I work at it and try to stay up beat but it lingers in the background of your mind...
taunting..."ya, I am here you piece of shit...i will not make this easy for you." Its then I focus on the other thing I am thankful for, My wife and kids... I look to them when those times hit me hard, knowing full well that all I need is a good strong hug from any one of them and I feel better.
So very Thankful for my family.
I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
Yo Paul, good post man. I was just talking about this with my best friend last night. He and I both were discussing how we have co-workers who 'have' a lot, but are very unappreciative. I used to be kind of a negative person, but a few years back I began to realize that even though I dont have many material things, I have a lot to be thankful for -- Mostly I am thankful that I open my eyes every morning. haha, that reminds me of a funny quote -- "everyday I break my record of consecutive days alive"... or something like that.
and nevermind that negativity, I just tihnk that person might not have gottten the gist of what you were saying -- I didnt think you were sounding like imposing anything on anyone.
Anyways just off the top of my head (and absolutely in no particular order):
my G/f
my Dad
electricity
the sun
Bob Ross re-runs
sense of smell
my Mom
pistachios
morning wood
physicists
my Grandmother
a guitar
neighbors
the ocean
toothpaste
the big bang
smiles
diversity
moles
positivity
...I could go on and on...
Morning wood
I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
When I feel that gross negativity in public it's enough to make me sick. I'd be so jealous of anyone who could walk, but many of those people I'd be jealous of were bitter and unhappy. I still don't understand it; we have so much, but nothing is ever enough for some people.
I am thankful my 3 children and wonderful wife are healthy and that we'll all be together for Christmas.
I am thankful for the abilty to hear, the ability to see and the ability to breathe and walk on my own.
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daily??? hmmmm....how quick can I get to Stevens Point, WI? I want to party with you! LOL
I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
That's awesome news you are walking, Jenwah!!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Your post makes me feel like a big baby - I'm on crutches for 4 weeks because I have a tiny crack in my kneecap and I'm complaining like it's the end of the world. You're so right, we should concentrate on being positive. Duh, it makes life so much easier. And much more pleasant. Thank you for posting this, Jeanwah.
I'm thankful for my husband and two great kids, wonderful friends and family. Crazy pets. Food on the table (I'm making fruitcake today - yikes). There's so much - I guess I'm thankful there's so much to be thankful about.
If anybody wants to read something to make them feel good, check out A Secret Gift by Ted Gup.
"Shortly before Christmas 1933 in Depression-scarred Canton, Ohio, a small newspaper ad offered $10, no strings attached, to 75 families in distress. Interested readers were asked to submit letters describing their hardships to a benefactor calling himself Mr. B. Virdot. A Secret Gift’s author's grandfather Sam Stone was inspired to place this ad and assist his fellow Cantonians as they prepared for the cruelest Christmas most of them would ever witness."
Such a great reminder. Thanks, Jeanwah. You probably think I'm an ass (who doesn't?), but I really do wish you the best in your recovery.
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I'm never as good as when you're there.........
I'll be the first to admit that I bitch sometimes, but never to an extent and I do realize the blessings in my life.
When people bitch about stuff like that, with the utmost sincerity it makes me really want to drop them off in a suffering third world country to observe how those people, of equal human value, live on a daily basis.
For the most part, our personal problems here in a America cannot hold a candle to the shit that a lot of the world's population goes through.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Wow. I cannot argue with any of this. Except maybe the cell phone. :think:
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Perhaps you could restate the logic in your argument as it has, thus far, eluded me completely. Peace ...
if you'd like to state what you are thankful for in life, you are more than welcome to it.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Why would I think you're an ass Eye? Thanks for the well wishes.
My friends
Peace
There are little lights of joy most days
No drama
Health
A home
A job
Music
Ice Cream
Books
The ability to laugh often
That I can challenge negativity when faced with it
Film
Coffee
A warm cosy bed,even although I'm alone in it now
Calm
Honesty
Potential
i am most thankful for family
and 2nd chances in life
Of my innocence... got back my inner sense...
family
our dog, Sam
my friends
my health
music
baseball
books
the guitar
honesty
life in general
happy christmas & merry new year, everyone!!
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