Glen Beck says 10% of Muslims Are Terrorists

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Oh! Well... If it's in the Guardian and the NYT we can almost be certain they got it from Syria then.

I'm just F'n w/ you. But seriously, that pie is not a fact-pie, its a bullshit-pie.

gimmesometruth27

Best of Times wrote:

Oh! Well... If it's in the Guardian and the NYT we can almost be certain they got it from Syria then.

I'm just F'n w/ you. But seriously, that pie is not a fact-pie, its a bullshit-pie.

if you can refute it then by all means go for it. i'll give you a cookie if you can.

keeponrockin

http://www.theonion.com/articles/glenn- ... f-h,18612/

In what has increasingly become an era defined by pandemonium, rancor, and blind ignorance, one stabilizing voice emerged from the din this year to soothe the souls of Americans everywhere, make us recognize the common decency that binds us all, and supplant the poisonous aura of fear and chaos with a simple, well-thought-out message of peace, prosperity, and reconciliation.

That man is television and syndicated radio host Glenn Beck.

Every single day of 2010, Beck's quiet words of humility and reason have touched the hearts of all Americans, healing countless wounds and elevating the level of our national discourse. Indeed, just as Martin Luther King, Jr.—to whom Beck has so aptly and correctly compared himself—once showed the nation the way forward to compassion and civility, so have Beck's stunningly eloquent broadcasts, inspiring political rallies, and bestselling books reassured every living citizen that we are all joined by the same ever-beating heart of kindness, and that gentler roads lie ahead if we could all just settle down, lower our voices, and focus on solving the actual, meaningful problems of our world together.

For in these troubled times of rising unemployment, political infighting, anger, and persecution, America needs a man who can put the issues in perspective and bring us comfort; a man who cares not about race, creed, sexual orientation, or party affiliation; a man who sees beyond petty political maneuverings, emotional exploitation, greed, and opportunism; a man who encourages all of us to disregard the ceaseless clamor of ideologues and think for ourselves; a man who sees beyond his own ego and cares only for what is good and right and just. In short, it needs a man like Glenn Lee Beck.

Thank God for Glenn Beck and all he has done. After all, what would our country be like if not for him?

TriumphantAngel

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Electric_Delta wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

actually beck is wrong again, as usual.....

according to this widely cited and referenced pie chart from january 2010, only 6% of all terrorists are muslim....and what are there, only like 100 or 150 known and confirmed members of alqaeda in the entire world??

Where did this chart originate? Syria?

it's from the FBI's official website.

All terrorists are Muslims except the 94% that aren't.

CNN recently published an article entitled Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated; according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, “the terrorist threat posed by radicalized Muslim-Americans has been exaggerated.”

Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/ ... 2_2005.htm

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews). Let them dare say it…they couldn’t; it would be political and social suicide to say such a thing. Most Americans would shut down such talk as bigoted; yet, similar statements continue to be said of Islam, without any repercussions.

The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? (For the record: I don’t believe in such profiling, because I am–unlike the right wing nutters–a believer in American ideals.)

Nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it’s grossly exaggerated.



Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database

Electric_Delta

So you can freely criticize Islam? What about the Dutch cartoonist who did? You're the one pretending when you say nothing is happening.

gimmesometruth27

Electric_Delta wrote:

So you can freely criticize Islam? What about the Dutch cartoonist who did? You're the one pretending when you say nothing is happening.

why would you want to do that? last i checked people in this country had the right to practice whatever faith they wanted without fear of persecution. isn't that just one reason why the pilgrims came here? why would anyone want to criticize islam anyway? i just want to ask some of these peope "have you nothing better to do with your time than worry about the beliefs of other people?"

and anyone that believes that there is no islamophobia in america look no further than the furor over that mosque being build in the vicinity of ground zero.

Electric_Delta

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Electric_Delta wrote:

So you can freely criticize Islam? What about the Dutch cartoonist who did? You're the one pretending when you say nothing is happening.

why would you want to do that? last i checked people in this country had the right to practice whatever faith they wanted without fear of persecution. isn't that just one reason why the pilgrims came here? why would anyone want to criticize islam anyway? i just want to ask some of these peope "have you nothing better to do with your time than worry about the beliefs of other people?"

and anyone that believes that there is no islamophobia in america look no further than the furor over that mosque being build in the vicinity of ground zero.

You're missing the point. Here's an example of tolerance in action:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/13 ... stockholm/

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Electric_Delta wrote:

So you can freely criticize Islam? What about the Dutch cartoonist who did? You're the one pretending when you say nothing is happening.

why would you want to do that? last i checked people in this country had the right to practice whatever faith they wanted without fear of persecution. isn't that just one reason why the pilgrims came here? why would anyone want to criticize islam anyway? i just want to ask some of these peope "have you nothing better to do with your time than worry about the beliefs of other people?"

and anyone that believes that there is no islamophobia in america look no further than the furor over that mosque being build in the vicinity of ground zero.

what are they building on ground zero ? I haven't seen or heard anything sense the muslim thing.

Godfather.

Electric_Delta

I realize there are extremists in every sect, but the arguments presented here lead you to believe there is no such thing as Islamic extremism.

Cosmo

If i were to say, '10% of all Christians believe what Rev. Fred Phelps preaches'... what would i be called?
...
I think I should be called a 'Bullshitter'... because even i know that is a ridiculous statement.
...
YET... there apparently be some who would believe and support my bullshit statement.

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Electric_Delta wrote:

So you can freely criticize Islam? What about the Dutch cartoonist who did? You're the one pretending when you say nothing is happening.

a voice of reason in a symphony of sheep.

Jason P

Electric_Delta wrote:

So you can freely criticize Islam? What about the Dutch cartoonist who did? You're the one pretending when you say nothing is happening.

You can't disparage the prophet Mohammed. The cartoonist in Seattle had to go into the witness protection program for starting a Facebook page that paid homage to a recent South Park episode. In the Dutch case, there were multiple deaths and murders that occurred during rioting at embassies around the world. All for a cartoon.

It would be wonderful to see all of the Islamic leaders speak out against this madness. Maybe they know they are next if they do speak up . . .

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/09/seattle-cartoonist-molly-norris-goes-into-hiding-after-death-threat-over-draw-mohammed-day/1

But in regards to what % of what groups make up the terrorists, that all depends on the size and shape of your looking glass.

josevolution

Wait so some people here actually drink the coolaid this slob spews everyday :oops: :oops: ...

tvismyfriend

g under p wrote:

A post that someone challenged anyone to refute the numbers....

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/blog/stu/?p=1167

Peace

My problem with that is it doesn't take into consideration Muslims outside of those areas. Also, it would be nice if they gave a little more information to those numbers. Did they ask every Muslim in those countries or did they only poll ten or twenty thousand people?

TriumphantAngel

Electric_Delta wrote:

I realize there are extremists in every sect, but the arguments presented here lead you to believe there is no such thing as Islamic extremism.

that's not true. can you show me one argument presented here that says there is no such thing as islamic extremism?

there isn't any.

in fact the statistics i posted from the FBI official website (not Syria as you suggested by the way), clearly states that nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it is grossly exaggerated.

mikepegg44

Glenn is an idiot savant and inflammatory things are said in radio to garner listnership and it works for him every time...why anyone wastes any of their time on Glenn Beck and what he says is beyond me...if you ignore him, he loses all power...those that follow him and enjoy him generally do it because he pisses off the left with great percision...take that away and you just have another levin, savage, or any of the others that don't get press time because they just aren't worth talking about. It is too bad, because the guys who host shows that do drive discussion and promote a healthy exchange of ideas, like michael medved or Jason Lewis, are just drowned out because the left only pay attention to the idiots like beck driving more conservatives and right leaners to listen to him. It is a bit of a chicken/egg argument I guess, but I would rather see more people just talk about people that matter rather than idiots who don't

mysticweed

considering the source
i'm surprised it's not higher

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josevolution wrote:

Wait so some people here actually drink the coolaid this slob spews everyday :oops: :oops: ...

You're talking about Obama?