marijuana and vets

chadwick

i don't know where to go with this topic & questions
last night i talked with a dude who was a soldier over there in the middleeast somewhere fighting
his leg was about blown apart
several surgeries later & lots of physical therapy he can walk

he will not tell me his age
he will not be present in a room if people are burning greenery nicely

a friend. we can't smoke right now chadwick
me. oh... new house rules?
him. "the VA is up my ass"
me. nice place for them
me. um, probably not, that sucks. (putting my pipe away)

some time later...

hey dude man
how old are you brother?
i myself im 38

this dude turned into a woman who is freaked about about their age

last night was a bizarre night

if my leg was blown apart because i was fighting in a war
when i got out of the military being around weed would be my last worry

what the fuck?

81

maybe he was a midnight toker and got tested and they said do this again, you don't get benifits.

i dunno.

just pre speculation on my part.

RKCNDY

the services frown upon greenery usage. I knew several servicemen that would love to smoke the green but they say that their country is number one to them and it is not worth the risk...I think if you test positive you get a dis-honorable discharge...looks really bad.

Thanks for everything you do service men and women. :thumbup:

chadwick

4and20 wrote:

the services frown upon greenery usage. I knew several servicemen that would love to smoke the green but they say that their country is number one to them and it is not worth the risk...I think if you test positive you get a dis-honorable discharge...looks really bad.

Thanks for everything you do service men and women. :thumbup:

he is not in the service any longer.
our country is fucking nuts.
also, he likes to drink jack & coke when he drinks

this whole concept makes me want to pull my hair out

good soldier = drunken little bastard
bad soldier = high little bastard

fuck you uncle sam

Staffan

If he doesn't want to be around people smoking, he's free to leave the room
vet or no vet
I can't stand when people projects their issues on others

Staffan

chadwick wrote:

4and20 wrote:

the services frown upon greenery usage. I knew several servicemen that would love to smoke the green but they say that their country is number one to them and it is not worth the risk...I think if you test positive you get a dis-honorable discharge...looks really bad.

Thanks for everything you do service men and women. :thumbup:

he is not in the service any longer.
our country is fucking nuts.
also, he likes to drink jack & coke when he drinks

this whole concept makes me want to pull my hair out

good soldier = drunken little bastard
bad soldier = high little bastard

fuck you uncle sam

so he drinks and gets drunk, and will not tolerate people getting high in the same room.....I don't get that..

chadwick

Staffan wrote:

chadwick wrote:

4and20 wrote:

the services frown upon greenery usage. I knew several servicemen that would love to smoke the green but they say that their country is number one to them and it is not worth the risk...I think if you test positive you get a dis-honorable discharge...looks really bad.

Thanks for everything you do service men and women. :thumbup:

he is not in the service any longer.
our country is fucking nuts.
also, he likes to drink jack & coke when he drinks

this whole concept makes me want to pull my hair out

good soldier = drunken little bastard
bad soldier = high little bastard

fuck you uncle sam

so he drinks and gets drunk, and will not tolerate people getting high in the same room.....I don't get that..

and wont tell people how old he is

RYEzupSF

just checked with my friend who is a vet and a social worker with the VA.

Military totally frowns on it. MJ is illegal at a federal level and the military is federal. Card or no card. If you test dirty it is a dishonorable discharge.

But if he is out of the services there wouldn't be any consequences, as far as the military. he could get arrested of course, but it wouldn't fuck up his benefits.

the age thing is just wierd. and funny.

RKCNDY

chadwick wrote:

4and20 wrote:

the services frown upon greenery usage. I knew several servicemen that would love to smoke the green but they say that their country is number one to them and it is not worth the risk...I think if you test positive you get a dis-honorable discharge...looks really bad.

Thanks for everything you do service men and women. :thumbup:

he is not in the service any longer.
our country is fucking nuts.
also, he likes to drink jack & coke when he drinks

this whole concept makes me want to pull my hair out

good soldier = drunken little bastard
bad soldier = high little bastard

fuck you uncle sam

like 81 said, they may cut off benefits if he tests positive. f'ed up I agree...but if the government wants him to be addicted to prescription pain killers rather than smoke pot.....well then :twisted:
i am watching celebrity rehab...eric roberts is there to get off the green...we'll see how he does
Jeff Conway was there for being addicted to pills...and well....look at him now....

chadwick

RYEzupSF wrote:

just checked with my friend who is a vet and a social worker with the VA.

Military totally frowns on it. MJ is illegal at a federal level and the military is federal. Card or no card. If you test dirty it is a dishonorable discharge.

But if he is out of the services there wouldn't be any consequences, as far as the military. he could get arrested of course, but it wouldn't fuck up his benefits.

the age thing is just wierd. and funny.

thank you very much.
this is informative for us, thanks.

i am not disrespecting the guy at all
i am confused by the gentleman and this country he is all about

RYEzupSF

just re-read the original post. if the VA is up his ass it may mean that they want him to go to a program or something. or they won't give him certain meds if he is "using." It could also be a mental health thing. Weed might make him paranoid and trigger some sort of PTSD reaction. I've seen that happen too. This is all speculation, but I've had many clients who are vets who have had to curb their drug use for those reasons.

chadwick

4and20 wrote:

chadwick wrote:

4and20 wrote:

the services frown upon greenery usage. I knew several servicemen that would love to smoke the green but they say that their country is number one to them and it is not worth the risk...I think if you test positive you get a dis-honorable discharge...looks really bad.

Thanks for everything you do service men and women. :thumbup:

he is not in the service any longer.
our country is fucking nuts.
also, he likes to drink jack & coke when he drinks

this whole concept makes me want to pull my hair out

good soldier = drunken little bastard
bad soldier = high little bastard

fuck you uncle sam

like 81 said, they may cut off benefits if he tests positive. f'ed up I agree...but if the government wants him to be addicted to prescription pain killers rather than smoke pot.....well then :twisted:
i am watching celebrity rehab...eric roberts is there to get off the green...we'll see how he does
Jeff Conway was there for being addicted to pills...and well....look at him now....

and dont forget "jack & coke" is ok
jack daniels never harmed a soul

JOEJOEJOE

chadwick wrote:

i don't know where to go with this topic & questions
last night i met a dude who was a soldier over there in the middleeast somewhere fighting
his leg was about blown apart
several surgeries later & lots of physical therapy he can walk

he will not tell me his age
he will not be present in a room if people are burning greenery nicely

a friend. we can't smoke right now chadwick
me. oh... new house rules?
him. "the VA is up my ass"
me. nice place for them
me. um, probably not, that sucks. (putting my pipe away)

some time later...

hey dude man
how old are you brother?
i myself im 38

this dude turned into a woman who is freaked about about their age

last night was a bizarre night

if my leg was blown apart because i was fighting in a war
when i got out of the military being around weed would be my last worry

what the fuck?

Why not withhold judgement until you learn all the facts?

chadwick

RYEzupSF wrote:

just re-read the original post. if the VA is up his ass it may mean that they want him to go to a program or something. or they won't give him certain meds if he is "using." It could also be a mental health thing. Weed might make him paranoid and trigger some sort of PTSD reaction. I've seen that happen too. This is all speculation, but I've had many clients who are vets who have had to curb their drug use for those reasons.

you are outstanding
thank you for answering my questions
i believe you are on the right track

i would say the young man has some mental issues going on
he was very uneasy with the question of his age
and was all over me telling me how strong smelling the skunks den is

(i removed myself from his presents and wandered into the den)

chalk it up to mental & physical health issues, uncle sam suckin nuts, and mr. jack daniels

chadwick

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

chadwick wrote:

i don't know where to go with this topic & questions
last night i met a dude who was a soldier over there in the middleeast somewhere fighting
his leg was about blown apart
several surgeries later & lots of physical therapy he can walk

he will not tell me his age
he will not be present in a room if people are burning greenery nicely

a friend. we can't smoke right now chadwick
me. oh... new house rules?
him. "the VA is up my ass"
me. nice place for them
me. um, probably not, that sucks. (putting my pipe away)

some time later...

hey dude man
how old are you brother?
i myself im 38

this dude turned into a woman who is freaked about about their age

last night was a bizarre night

if my leg was blown apart because i was fighting in a war
when i got out of the military being around weed would be my last worry

what the fuck?

Why not withhold judgement until you learn all the facts?

i am not judging anyone
when did i judge him?
by asking you people questions i am trying to learn more about this stuff

RYEzupSF

chadwick wrote:

RYEzupSF wrote:

just re-read the original post. if the VA is up his ass it may mean that they want him to go to a program or something. or they won't give him certain meds if he is "using." It could also be a mental health thing. Weed might make him paranoid and trigger some sort of PTSD reaction. I've seen that happen too. This is all speculation, but I've had many clients who are vets who have had to curb their drug use for those reasons.

you are outstanding
thank you for answering my questions
i believe you are on the right track

i would say the young man has some mental issues going on
he was very uneasy with the question of his age
and was all over me telling me how strong smelling the skunks den is

(i removed myself from his presents and wandered into the den)

chalk it up to mental & physical health issues, uncle sam suckin nuts, and mr. jack daniels

i just know that the folks i've worked with coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan have been severely fucked up in the head as a result. I hope for his sake he gets the help he needs, whatever it may be. And right now it may be jack daniels and acting like a girl when it comes to his age.

chadwick

RYEzupSF wrote:

i just know that the folks i've worked with coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan have been severely fucked up in the head as a result. I hope for his sake he gets the help he needs, whatever it may be. And right now it may be jack daniels and acting like a girl when it comes to his age.

yeah i hear ya
that sucks

i mean we were eye to eye and he was freakin out about my age question
i never had that experience with a man before
it threw me for a loop

eyedclaar

RYEzupSF wrote:

just checked with my friend who is a vet and a social worker with the VA.

Military totally frowns on it. MJ is illegal at a federal level and the military is federal. Card or no card. If you test dirty it is a dishonorable discharge.

But if he is out of the services there wouldn't be any consequences, as far as the military. he could get arrested of course, but it wouldn't fuck up his benefits.

the age thing is just wierd. and funny.

It's frowned upon because pot doesn't make you want to kill Charlie. Giant horse pills of speed make you wanna fuckin' kill Charlie!!!!

RYEzupSF

eyedclaar wrote:

RYEzupSF wrote:

just checked with my friend who is a vet and a social worker with the VA.

Military totally frowns on it. MJ is illegal at a federal level and the military is federal. Card or no card. If you test dirty it is a dishonorable discharge.

But if he is out of the services there wouldn't be any consequences, as far as the military. he could get arrested of course, but it wouldn't fuck up his benefits.

the age thing is just wierd. and funny.

It's frowned upon because pot doesn't make you want to kill Charlie. Giant horse pills of speed make you wanna fuckin' kill Charlie!!!!

You ain't ever lied.

chadwick

eyedclaar wrote:

RYEzupSF wrote:

just checked with my friend who is a vet and a social worker with the VA.

Military totally frowns on it. MJ is illegal at a federal level and the military is federal. Card or no card. If you test dirty it is a dishonorable discharge.

But if he is out of the services there wouldn't be any consequences, as far as the military. he could get arrested of course, but it wouldn't fuck up his benefits.

the age thing is just wierd. and funny.

It's frowned upon because pot doesn't make you want to kill Charlie. Giant horse pills of speed make you wanna fuckin' kill Charlie!!!!

eyed dude
i am perplexed
what is going on in this god damn country/world?

Jason78

That threw you for a loop? Your perplexed? Man, you truly are an idiot. That story makes no sense. He's your friend but you don't know how old he is.? Sounds like you were at his house so I'm gonna say he can tell you whatever the hell he wants to tell you.......for all you little pot heads that say he's pressing his beliefs. It was probably a bizzare night because your head was full of THC or already burned out from it. Your 38......yeah that's about right. Who the hell are you to assume what you would or wouldn't be worrying about after being injured like that. I'm a vet and I wish all you non vets w/ your dim opinions would just shut the hell up. The same way that I believe we should never have a president that has never served a day in his life commanding our troops (commander and chief my ass). That's an obvious no brainer but obviously our government doesn't agree. Hopefully this is just a phase for you.......kinda like Eddies mohawk.

Cree Nations

Jason78 wrote:

That threw you for a loop? Your perplexed? Man, you truly are an idiot. That story makes no sense. He's your friend but you don't know how old he is.? Sounds like you were at his house so I'm gonna say he can tell you whatever the hell he wants to tell you.......for all you little pot heads that say he's pressing his beliefs. It was probably a bizzare night because your head was full of THC or already burned out from it. Your 38......yeah that's about right. Who the hell are you to assume what you would or wouldn't be worrying about after being injured like that. I'm a vet and I wish all you non vets w/ your dim opinions would just shut the hell up. The same way that I believe we should never have a president that has never served a day in his life commanding our troops (commander and chief my ass). That's an obvious no brainer but obviously our government doesn't agree. Hopefully this is just a phase for you.......kinda like Eddies mohawk.

holy shit man, take a pill

ajedigecko

correct me if i am wrong.......but i believe the title is "commander in chief"

Jason78

Yeah yeah I feel ya. Just tired of ignorant asses casting their opinions all over.......but thank God we live in a land that affords them the right I suppose.

Oh, yes genius.....it's "commander in chief"

ajedigecko

i am not a genius........but i remember a few basic skills i learned.

Jason78

Jedi skills?!

Get_Right

unfortunately, the federal government is not on board when it comes to even medical marijuana

JzP

someday the gov. will recognize it!
Chadwick sounds like you handled the situation well.

whispering hands

4and20 wrote:

the services frown upon greenery usage. I knew several servicemen that would love to smoke the green but they say that their country is number one to them and it is not worth the risk...I think if you test positive you get a dis-honorable discharge...looks really bad.

Thanks for everything you do service men and women. :thumbup:

Yes you get one chance to clean up and they moniter it. And the second ppositive test lands you on your ass with nothing. So yeah it's hard core.. My brother in law hates that part of it.. cause he'
s an old school toker..

Nothingman54

chadwick

Jason78 wrote:

That threw you for a loop? Your perplexed? Man, you truly are an idiot. That story makes no sense. He's your friend but you don't know how old he is.? Sounds like you were at his house so I'm gonna say he can tell you whatever the hell he wants to tell you.......for all you little pot heads that say he's pressing his beliefs. It was probably a bizzare night because your head was full of THC or already burned out from it. Your 38......yeah that's about right. Who the hell are you to assume what you would or wouldn't be worrying about after being injured like that. I'm a vet and I wish all you non vets w/ your dim opinions would just shut the hell up. The same way that I believe we should never have a president that has never served a day in his life commanding our troops (commander and chief my ass). That's an obvious no brainer but obviously our government doesn't agree. Hopefully this is just a phase for you.......kinda like Eddies mohawk.

nicely done.
have done your homework, Sir?
let's see...

A. i have never been to his home. i have no idea where he lives. i have met him three times at a mutual friend's house. i have never heard this persons name before until recently.

B. he is not my friend. i barely have spoken to the young gentleman. he is a decent enough guy to talk with, that's all i have, dude. oh... and he is a family man; i have no clue about his family. i do not know his last name.

C. im not his friend; i do not know him.

you are funny though
thank you for the comedy