Tea Party Hypocrisy.........

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,308
edited December 2010 in A Moving Train
same shit, different group...

it is put up or shut up time for the tea party caucus...

"all earmarks are bad and wasteful, unless we request them." :roll: :roll:

it would be funny if it was not so damn sad...

Anti-earmark Tea Party Caucus takes $1 billion in earmarks

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive ... n-earmarks

Members of the Congressional Tea Party Caucus may tout their commitment to cutting government spending now, but they used the 111th Congress to request hundreds of earmarks that, taken cumulatively, added more than $1 billion to the federal budget.

According to a Hotline review of records compiled by Citizens Against Government Waste, the 52 members of the caucus, which pledges to cut spending and reduce the size of government, requested a total of 764 earmarks valued at $1,049,783,150 during Fiscal Year 2010, the last year for which records are available.

"It's disturbing to see the Tea Party Caucus requested that much in earmarks. This is their time to put up or shut up, to be blunt," said David Williams, vice president for policy at Citizens Against Government Waste. "There's going to be a huge backlash if they continue to request earmarks."

In founding the caucus in July, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) said she was giving voice to Americans who were sick of government overspending.

"The American people are speaking out loud and clear. They have had enough of the spending, the bureaucracy, and the government-knows-best mentality running rampant today throughout the halls of Congress," Bachmann said in a July 15 statement. The group, she wrote in a letter to House Administration Committee chairman Bob Brady, "will serve as an informal group of Members dedicated to promote Americans' call for fiscal responsibility, adherence to the Constitution, and limited government."

Bachmann and 13 of her Tea Party Caucus colleagues did not request any earmarks in the last Fiscal Year, according to CAGW's annual Congressional Pig Book. But others have requested millions of dollars in special projects.

Rep. Robert Aderholt (R-Ala.), for one, attached his name to 69 earmarks in the last fiscal year, for a total of $78,263,000. The 41 earmarks Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-La.) requested were worth $65,395,000. Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.) wanted $63,400,000 for 39 special projects, and Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) wanted
$93,980,000 set aside for 47 projects.

Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.) takes the prize as the tea partier with his name on the most earmarks. Rehberg's office requested funding for 88 projects, either solely or by co-signing earmark requests with Sens. Max Baucus (D) and Jon Tester (D), at a cost of $100,514,200. On his own, Rehberg requested 20 earmarks valued at more than $9.6 million.

More than one member can sign onto an earmark. Still, there are 29 caucus members who requested on their own or joined requests for more than $10 million in earmark funding, and seven who wanted more than $50 million in funding.

Most offices did not respond right away to a request for comment. Those that did said they supported Republicans' new efforts to ban earmarks.

Alexander, for one, "stands with his fellow Republicans in the House in supporting the current earmark ban. Since joining the Tea Party Caucus in July, he has not submitted any earmark requests and has withdrawn his outstanding requests that were included in the most recent Water Resources Development Act," said Jamie Hanks, his communications director.

Rep. Gregg Harper (R-Miss.), who requested 25 earmarks in the last Fiscal Year at a total cost of just over $80 million, has agreed to abide by the Republican earmark ban, according to spokesman Adam Buckalew. "He supported the moratorium and the prohibition adopted recently by the Conference on House earmarks for the 112th Congress," Buckalew said of Harper.

"It's easy to be a member of the TEA Party Caucus because, like them, I agree that we're Taxed Enough Already and we've got to balance the budget by cutting spending instead of raising taxes. Deficit spending is not new, but the unprecedented rate of spending in Congress is," Rehberg said in a statement emailed by his office. "Montanans have tightened their belts, and it's way past time for Congress to follow their lead. The TEA Party Caucus is about listening to concerned Americans who want to fundamentally change how Congress spends their tax dollars. On that, we're in total agreement."

Bachmann's office did not respond to emails or phone calls seeking comment.

Still, some Republicans -- albeit none who belong to the Tea Party Caucus -- have said they will not abide by the voluntary earmark ban. And, said CAGW's Williams, the anti-spending organization isn't waiting with baited breath.

"Seeing is believing. It's going to take a lot more than rhetoric to convince us," he said.

A list of Tea Party Caucus members and their earmark requests in Fiscal Year 2010, courtesy of Citizens Against Government Waste's Pig Book:


NAME EARMARKS AMOUNT
Aderholt (R-AL) 69 $78,263,000
Akin (R-MO) 9 $14,709,000
Alexander (R-LA) 41 $65,395,000
Bachmann (R-MN) 0 0
Barton (R-TX) 14 $12,269,400
Bartlett (R-MD) 19 $43,060,650
Bilirakis (R-FL) 14 $13,600,000
R. Bishop (R-UT) 47 $93,980,000
Burgess (R-TX) 15 $15,804,400
Broun (R-GA) 0 0
Burton (R-IN) 0 0
Carter (R-TX) 26 $42,232,000
Coble (R-NC) 19 $18,755,000
Coffman (R-CO) 0 0
Crenshaw (R-FL) 37 $54,424,000
Culberson (R-TX) 22 $33,792,000
Fleming (R-LA) 10 $31,489,000
Franks (R-AZ) 8 $14,300,000
Gingrey (R-GA) 19 $16,100,000
Gohmert (R-TX) 15 $7,099,000
S. Graves (R-MO) 11 $8,331,000
R. Hall (R-TX) 16 $12,232,000
Harper (R-MS) 25 $80,402,000
Herger (R-CA) 5 $5,946,000
Hoekstra (R-MI) 9 $6,392,000
Jenkins (R-KS) 12 $24,628,000
S. King (R-IA) 13 $6,650,000
Lamborn (R-CO) 6 $16,020,000
Luetkemeyer (R-MO) 0 0
Lummis (R-WY) 0 0
Marchant (R-TX) 0 0
McClintock (R-CA) 0 0
Gary Miller (R-CA) 15 $19,627,500
Jerry Moran (R-KS) 22 $19,400,000
Myrick (R-NC) 0 0
Neugebauer (R-TX) 0 0
Pence (R-IN) 0 0
Poe (R-TX) 12 $7,913,000
T. Price (R-GA) 0 0
Rehberg (R-MT) 88 $100,514,200
Roe (R-TN) 0 0
Royce (R-CA) 7 $6,545,000
Scalise (R-LA) 20 $17,388,000
P. Sessions (R-TX) 0 0
Shadegg (R-AZ) 0 0
Adrian Smith (R-NE) 1 $350,000
L. Smith (R-TX) 18 $14,078,000
Stearns (R-FL) 17 $15,472,000
Tiahrt (R-KS) 39 $63,400,000
Wamp (R-TN) 14 $34,544,000
Westmoreland (R-GA) 0 0
Wilson (R-SC) 15 $23,334,000
TOTAL 764 $1,049,783,150
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,165
    It's time for them to step up and walk the walk. It will be interesting to see this same list next year. Thankfully, my rep is one of the "zeros".
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  • Jason P wrote:
    It's time for them to step up and walk the walk. It will be interesting to see this same list next year. Thankfully, my rep is one of the "zeros".

    Very true... ones who requested earmarks in the past can spin this as an "I've seen the light" moment and not take anymore in the future.

    But, in some of these districts that are used to (and maybe rely) on the Representatives bringing home the bacon, we'll see how they fare when up for re-election.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,165
    Jason P wrote:
    It's time for them to step up and walk the walk. It will be interesting to see this same list next year. Thankfully, my rep is one of the "zeros".

    Very true... ones who requested earmarks in the past can spin this as an "I've seen the light" moment and not take anymore in the future.

    But, in some of these districts that are used to (and maybe rely) on the Representatives bringing home the bacon, we'll see how they fare when up for re-election.
    It was interesting that in my state our republican senator voted against banning earmarks and our democratic senator approved of banning earmarks. It was laughable to watch some of these senators try to blow earmarks off as being insignificant in reducing debt. Their other out was using fear tactics (education and public safety will suffer).

    Earmarks are an unchecked slush-fund that senators can use to buy votes and influence special interest groups. Without earmarks, their power, influence, and campaigning ability suffers, and that is what the senators really fear.

    Note: our democrat senator is retiring while our republican senator is preparing for another campaign season.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,308
    :?: :?:


    i am waiting for some responses from some tea partiers on here....

    how do you defend this??

    is this what you wanted the tea party caucus to do??

    or is it ok now because all of this was just before the recent election?

    is the mantra no earmarks at all ever, or no earmarks starting with the next congress??? what is it??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    :?: :?:


    i am waiting for some responses from some tea partiers on here....

    how do you defend this??

    is this what you wanted the tea party caucus to do??

    or is it ok now because all of this was just before the recent election?

    is the mantra no earmarks at all ever, or no earmarks starting with the next congress??? what is it??
    well you see... it all started, once upon a time, in a country called Kenya... the earmark epidemic, born of a muslim man...
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    The problem with the Tea Party... is the people in the Tea Party.
    Most of them will mobilze to vote... but after the results are in... they go back to whatever it was they were doing. Of the ones here... the only person I can believe will pay attention to what his Tea Party Representatives are doing is 'Unsung'. From what i've read from him, he will more than likely keep an eye on what's going on in Government and hold those people he chose to represent him responsible for their actions or inactions. The rest... I just can't see them paying any closer attention an relying on Glenn Beck to tell them what they need to beieve.
    I think what we see here is a microcasm of the Tea Party in general. Most of them will moblize and scream when they are told to mobilize and scream... but, have no clue of what's going on because they believe FOX News is keeping them informed. A few of them will remain vigilant... but, the majority of them will go back to watching 'Dancing With the Stars'.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,308
    Cosmo wrote:
    The problem with the Tea Party... is the people in the Tea Party.
    Most of them will mobilze to vote... but after the results are in... they go back to whatever it was they were doing. Of the ones here... the only person I can believe will pay attention to what his Tea Party Representatives are doing is 'Unsung'. From what i've read from him, he will more than likely keep an eye on what's going on in Government and hold those people he chose to represent him responsible for their actions or inactions. The rest... I just can't see them paying any closer attention an relying on Glenn Beck to tell them what they need to beieve.
    I think what we see here is a microcasm of the Tea Party in general. Most of them will moblize and scream when they are told to mobilize and scream... but, have no clue of what's going on because they believe FOX News is keeping them informed. A few of them will remain vigilant... but, the majority of them will go back to watching 'Dancing With the Stars'.
    i think you are right...i have heard absoulutely nothing from any tea partiers at all since they stopped gloating a few days after the election...what does beck think of all of this?? how about palin?? there have been tea partiers on this forum since i posted this thread this afternoon and none of them have commented here....that is interesting to me...maybe they read it and their heads exploded? :lol:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,308
    hello? anyone? no tea partiers want to talk about this??

    shocking.

    :roll:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • hello? anyone? no tea partiers want to talk about this??

    shocking.

    :roll:

    I'm not saying any Tea-Partiers or Republicans aren't hypocrites. I've never said that. There are plenty of two-faced Republicans out there. I hope the hypocrisy stops in this regard.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,308
    hello? anyone? no tea partiers want to talk about this??

    shocking.

    :roll:

    I'm not saying any Tea-Partiers or Republicans aren't hypocrites. I've never said that. There are plenty of two-faced Republicans out there. I hope the hypocrisy stops in this regard.
    no, the tea party ran on stopping earmarks. when does that strategy begin? when did that principle begin to occur? because if you look at all of those names, those are the ones who ran and won on stopping earmarks, yet many of them accepted money totaling over a billion dollars. why no outrage from the tea party?

    why are most of the resident tea partiers on here ignoring this thread?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • hello? anyone? no tea partiers want to talk about this??

    shocking.

    :roll:

    I'm not saying any Tea-Partiers or Republicans aren't hypocrites. I've never said that. There are plenty of two-faced Republicans out there. I hope the hypocrisy stops in this regard.
    no, the tea party ran on stopping earmarks. when does that strategy begin? when did that principle begin to occur? because if you look at all of those names, those are the ones who ran and won on stopping earmarks, yet many of them accepted money totaling over a billion dollars. why no outrage from the tea party?

    why are most of the resident tea partiers on here ignoring this thread?

    It's hypocritical. I'm not saying it isn't. I'm actually not above criticizing MY side of the aisle.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,308
    It's hypocritical. I'm not saying it isn't. I'm actually not above criticizing MY side of the aisle.
    neither am i. i do it all the time. i don't just call it hypocritical, but i outright condemn people on my side all of the time. you have to or else things will never ever change.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • I might be wrong here, but isn't it appropriations that should be looked at? Aren't earmarks just a side product of what funds Congress appropriates? Earmarks are just requesting money from funds that are already obligated to go somewhere, right?
  • It's hypocritical. I'm not saying it isn't. I'm actually not above criticizing MY side of the aisle.
    neither am i. i do it all the time. i don't just call it hypocritical, but i outright condemn people on my side all of the time. you have to or else things will never ever change.

    And in spite of our back-and-forth, I do strongly agree with you here, Gimme.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,308
    I might be wrong here, but isn't it appropriations that should be looked at? Aren't earmarks just a side product of what funds Congress appropriates? Earmarks are just requesting money from funds that are already obligated to go somewhere, right?
    earmarks are things written into bills that are voted on. politicians sneak these funds into spending bills, and since most people vote without reading things they vote to give them that money for pet projects in their states. it is underhanded. i don't know why they just do not go to congress and ask for the funds instead of sneaking it into pending bills to be voted on. but i guess they have to do it this way since they figure people in congress would vote against it simply because of who was asking for it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,165
    I might be wrong here, but isn't it appropriations that should be looked at? Aren't earmarks just a side product of what funds Congress appropriates? Earmarks are just requesting money from funds that are already obligated to go somewhere, right?
    earmarks are things written into bills that are voted on. politicians sneak these funds into spending bills, and since most people vote without reading things they vote to give them that money for pet projects in their states. it is underhanded. i don't know why they just do not go to congress and ask for the funds instead of sneaking it into pending bills to be voted on. but i guess they have to do it this way since they figure people in congress would vote against it simply because of who was asking for it.
    I took the earmark vote as the Senate giving us a slap to the face as they smirk and think, "Suckers, I can't believe you fell for our tricks and lies again".

    I feel like we are all Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy's ball, only Lucy represents the three branches of government.
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  • Jason P wrote:
    I might be wrong here, but isn't it appropriations that should be looked at? Aren't earmarks just a side product of what funds Congress appropriates? Earmarks are just requesting money from funds that are already obligated to go somewhere, right?
    earmarks are things written into bills that are voted on. politicians sneak these funds into spending bills, and since most people vote without reading things they vote to give them that money for pet projects in their states. it is underhanded. i don't know why they just do not go to congress and ask for the funds instead of sneaking it into pending bills to be voted on. but i guess they have to do it this way since they figure people in congress would vote against it simply because of who was asking for it.
    I took the earmark vote as the Senate giving us a slap to the face as they smirk and think, "Suckers, I can't believe you fell for our tricks and lies again".

    I feel like we are all Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy's ball, only Lucy represents the three branches of government.

    I like it. ;)
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
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    that list makes me sad
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    When are we going to understand that politics is frought with hypocricy? It does not just apply to the politicians and pundits... but, the people... the voters, too.
    Case in point: I remember watching the Tea party Rallies and seeing the 'Dissent Is Patriotism' signs and the people talking about Revolution and seeds of dissent. So, do same these people think the Dixie Chicks were patriotic in their dissent of the Government? That Cindy Sheehan is a patriot for her outspoken dissent of the government? That Move On.org is a patriotic movement?
    My guess is, 'No'. I'm guessing some of them even included those who burned their Dixie Chicks CD because of their dissent. So, you see... it's NOT just the politicians and the Glenn Becks, Sean Hannitys, Keith Obermanns, Rachel Maddows, Ann Coulters and Janeane Garafalos that own hypocrisy. The citizenry can also stake claim to that.
    ...
    How do we combat that? By criticising the government when it is doing things to us, instead of for us, regardless of the political party affiliation. But, as long as politics is dumb-down to the back end of the Bell Curve, we will continue to see politics as sport, where we choose sides and the opposition is to be defeated soundly... failing to see that it is more like the offensive and defensive units of the same football team that we are battling against.
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