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Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
edited November 2010 in All Encompassing Trip
Lighting the grill in less than 12 hours!! Third year grilling outside and won't do it any other way. 22 pounds, 4 and a half hours of slow cooked, hardwood smoked, spice rubbed juicyness.

Anybody else grilling out this year?
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  • LoulouLoulou Adelaide Posts: 6,247
    Awwwwwwwwww, it's not fair. America seems to have the best celebrations. You guys have Thanksgiving, Halloween, Independence Day, all we have is Australia Day where everyone gets sloshed and eats B.B.Q.!!! :D:D:D:D
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  • klusterfukklusterfuk Posts: 1,411
    we deep fry.. tasty :mrgreen:
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    I'm sure deep fry is good but there's just no art to that. You just heat the oil, drop the bird and bring it back out.

    I love the constant tweaking of coals, turning, basting, adjusting and fine tuning. There's more of a craft to it.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    Just finished the juniper brine and the 20 lb bird is soaking in the refrigerator. Ground up the juniper berries, chopped up the thyme sprigs, and diced onions until my eyes were streaming.

    Lest you think I've gone all Martha Stewart on your ass, I stuck my fingers multiple times with the stupid needle you're supposed to use to suture the bird closed. And there was a moment of panic when I realized Mr. Unlost misread "two large carrots" as "a bag of baby carrots."

    I'm finding the whole experience is a lot more pleasurable now that I'm on my third Bar Harbor Real Ale.
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    I would think the Juniper would create a very acrid taste with heat. Have you done that before?

    And I am on a very tasty Cascade style, hoppy brew from Deschutes.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    Tenzing N. wrote:
    I would think the Juniper would create a very acrid taste with heat. Have you done that before?

    And I am on a very tasty Cascade style, hoppy brew from Deschutes.

    I did, this is I think the fourth or fifth year. One time I tried an apple cider brine, but it didn't come out as good.

    The juniper is only for the brining. Tomorrow morning I'll take the turkey out of the poultry bag (which it's in now for the brining part). Then the whole thing gets brushed off. So the crushed juniper berries don't actually make it into the oven. But boy, when that bird comes out is it ever delicious. Really, really moist.

    Yum.

    Now I'm working on the (turkey) sausage stuffing. Just tore up the bread and baked the pieces.

    I'm telling you, I am thisclose to my own TV show. It will have to be on cable, though, because of the beers and the cursing.
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    Hey- that's not a bad idea. Regular guy cooking, lots of beer and sports talk and cursing. I'd watch it.

    With stuffing do you worry about the internal temp or cook times? I've never stuffed before because grilling is allready close to the edge as far as health safety.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    Girl, not guy, but the rest is accurate. :lol: Definitely the beer, cursing and sports talk, as long as you don't mind hearing all about the Red Sox, Patriots, and competitive dog agility. Although this is the year that I intend to start paying a lot more attention to the Bruins.

    I'm cooking the stuffing separately, roasting it outside the bird. I am completely paranoid about spreading nasty stuff around, so I have to Clorox ever surface in the area of the raw turkey and :oops: I wear nitrile gloves when I'm handling the turkey :oops: the only thing I'll put in the cavity is chopped up onions, carrots, sage, etc. that I'll throw away before we carve the bird. Just gives some extra flavor.

    Also, I use a meat thermometer in the thigh.

    Yeah, I'm not paranoid... :lol: :shock:
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Tenzing N. wrote:
    I'm sure deep fry is good but there's just no art to that. You just heat the oil, drop the bird and bring it back out.

    I love the constant tweaking of coals, turning, basting, adjusting and fine tuning. There's more of a craft to it.
    I'm sold. What time should I be there and can I bring anything? 8-)
  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    We eat at one or so and I'll need a nice craft beer or two.

    I hear ya on being paranoid. I thought you were cooking the stuffing in the bird which is a big no-no.

    I wish I could recommend grilling to you but if you're in the North East you'd have a hard time finding the right weather for it. I'm a little concerned about my high winds, cold temps and rain tomorrow so to be safe I bought a large bag of lump hardwook charcoal that tends to burn hotter than most.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,775
    That's it! PEAR JAM TV! With live cooking shows, sports commentary, political discussion, tour updates. All the boys as guests for round tables! Fan visits and experiences, etc. etc. etc.!

    WhhhhooooooooooooHHHHHooooooooooooooooooo! PEARL JAM TV!

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE! And the pay it forward is coming to a forum near you!

    Peace!
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  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    Tenzing N. wrote:
    We eat at one or so and I'll need a nice craft beer or two.

    I hear ya on being paranoid. I thought you were cooking the stuffing in the bird which is a big no-no.

    I wish I could recommend grilling to you but if you're in the North East you'd have a hard time finding the right weather for it. I'm a little concerned about my high winds, cold temps and rain tomorrow so to be safe I bought a large bag of lump hardwook charcoal that tends to burn hotter than most.

    Ah, my dear Tenzing, we are a hardy lot here in Boston. We grill year round here at La Casa de Unlost Dogs. Mr. Unlost has been out there in snowstorms. Literally. Propane is a wonderful thing. Although I would much prefer charcoal. Yummy. I miss that...

    How about a Bar Harbor Real Ale?
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  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    KR62675 wrote:
    That's it! PEAR JAM TV! With live cooking shows, sports commentary, political discussion, tour updates. All the boys as guests for round tables! Fan visits and experiences, etc. etc. etc.!

    WhhhhooooooooooooHHHHHooooooooooooooooooo! PEARL JAM TV!

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE! And the pay it forward is coming to a forum near you!

    Peace!

    This! I love it!

    Live cooking shows.

    A show featuring all of the dogs on the board. And I suppose some of the cats.

    Oooh. I like this.
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    I looked at Bar Harbor on ratebeer and it looked like a good beer. Didn't rate well but unless it's a triple or a stout the beer snobs won't mark it past an 80. I will admit that on some reco's there i have found some fantastic beers. Tonight's beer, for me, was great. Nicely toasty, and only got better as it warmed up a little.

    My point about the weather wasn't about the fortitude of you but more along the lines of the grill. If it's cold and windy out it takes alot longer to cook and that makes it more dangerous, especially for a large bird (18+).

    I plan on really heating it up at first to get the entire grill warm and then backing off to around 350 or so. That wind will really steal the heat though.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    Tenzing N. wrote:
    I looked at Bar Harbor on ratebeer and it looked like a good beer. Didn't rate well but unless it's a triple or a stout the beer snobs won't mark it past an 80. I will admit that on some reco's there i have found some fantastic beers. Tonight's beer, for me, was great. Nicely toasty, and only got better as it warmed up a little.

    My point about the weather wasn't about the fortitude of you but more along the lines of the grill. If it's cold and windy out it takes alot longer to cook and that makes it more dangerous, especially for a large bird (18+).

    I plan on really heating it up at first to get the entire grill warm and then backing off to around 350 or so. That wind will really steal the heat though.

    That is a very brave technique! There's a lot riding on this, you know. What's the weather going to be like there tomorrow?

    Mr. Unlost had done the deep fried turkey thing with some success. He did it once here, but since the dogs spent the next year nosing the mulch where the fryer was, he decided to do that at the firehouse instead, when his group is working.

    I'm really not at all a beer snob, but I do have some that I like. For tomorrow, we have Newcastle. I like the Bar Harbor a lot, of course best when it's draft at a pub in Bar Harbor...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,775
    unlost dogs wrote:
    KR62675 wrote:
    That's it! PEAR JAM TV! With live cooking shows, sports commentary, political discussion, tour updates. All the boys as guests for round tables! Fan visits and experiences, etc. etc. etc.!

    WhhhhooooooooooooHHHHHooooooooooooooooooo! PEARL JAM TV!

    HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE! And the pay it forward is coming to a forum near you!

    Peace!

    This! I love it!

    Live cooking shows.

    A show featuring all of the dogs on the board. And I suppose some of the cats.

    Oooh. I like this.

    And I like this too much! C'mon, if that puke in Alaska can have a home tv studio, surely the boys can too. Right? Just imagine. Eddie's Thanksgiving with how he does up the turkey. Stone reading a story to put us all to bed. Matt with financial advice. Mike getting a tattoo. Jeff with travel and car advice and Boom teaching us all how to surf. Blue ray PJ fan club concert specials, live broadcast. Imagine the possibilities! And features on fans pets. 24 hours in a day = 24 segments. Eddie with a quote of the day to start your day?

    I also brine the turkey. And its a Martha Stewart recipe. Comes out killer!

    Pay it forward coming soon to a forum near you.

    Peace!
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    The weather is supposed to be around 43 at nine, cooling to 39 at noon when it's due to come off the grill. Super windy all morning long with a good chance of thunderstorms in the morning as well. It's like someone spraying your oven with a garden hose. We'll see. If all else fails there's always the oven but the turkey will taste like defeat.

    I'm certainly not a beer snob but through my travels I've been exposed to some fantastic local brews and luckily my local beer supplier is well stocked.

    So is brining in general worth it? I've never tried but I almost did this year.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    Definitely give brining a shot, I can't believe what a difference it makes. I don't know that it would work with a grilled turkey, though. Maybe try it when you know you're going to roast? And the juniper brine... yum!

    It's really pretty easy to do, you just need to plan ahead as the brining process takes 12-24 hours. I bet you'd love it.

    I love to try local/microbrews when I'm traveling. More recently I've ventured into the heavier beers, yum. Would you believe, for a girl who's mom was born in Ireland, I only recently acquired a taste for Guiness? :lol:
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    I might try it but my birds end up being so freaking juicy I just can't imagine it would do any good. Plus I've struck a very good balance with my dry rub I don't want to mess with the flavor vs. salt profile.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    I think that would be a definite consideration. Doesn't the rub have a fair amount of salt in it?

    I don't know about you, but now I'm dying to taste this turkey.

    The best part about going for a run on Thanksgiving morning is smelling all of the roasting turkeys all over town.
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    I'm afraid I might have to stop this conversation now that I know you a) like to cook, b) like good beer c) like to run and obviously like PJ. I'm afraid it's not good for my marriage. :D :P

    I would love to run pre-turkey but I have to constantly monitor temps and charcoal, smoke load etc., so I have to sit close by.

    I'm currently getting in shape for a fast 5K coming up in Feb.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    :lol:;)

    The funny thing is, I really don't like cooking. I'm good for Thanksgiving and Christmas, and that's about it. I am going to make my New Year's resolution something to do with learning to enjoy this more, though. We order out wayyyyy to much.

    5Ks are a lot of fun. I used to do a fair number of 5 and 10Ks, and got up to a half marathon. Thought I might try a marathon, but I just couldn't run past 15 miles. It was like I ran off the edge of a cliff. Plus, I can't take my dogs more than 5 miles and I really do hate having to leave them home.

    Beer and Pearl Jam. Now you're talking!

    The perfect day: A road race followed by a fun dinner prepared at home while drinking beer and listening to PJ. Oh, my. That would be like Christmas for me...
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    Yes- that sounds fantastic! I would throw in a good sailboat race in the afternoon. The good thing about sailing is you can add Pearl Jam and beer into the mix and have yourself some sort of awesome.

    I have done a half and once I did 21 miles but lately I've been focusing on fast times in shorter distances. I just don't have time to go bang out 20 miles right now.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    I would really, really like to hit 20. Just as a personal milestone... but first, 5 tomorrow.

    Off to bed, just realized that in order to get this honkin' big bird done in time to get to the in-laws, I have to be up at 6. :shock:

    Happy grilling, running, drinking and listening to you! :wave:
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