NTH KOREA FIRES ON STH KOREA

catefrances

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AM0TZ20101123


http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaki ... 185fk.html

Byrnzie

That's pretty fucked up. Hopefully it won't escalate.

Shawshank

Byrnzie wrote:

That's pretty fucked up. Hopefully it won't escalate.

I don't see how it can't.

Godfather.

how will this effect American and other foreign business ? corporations all over the US are out sourcing and sending their work and jobs to countries like Russia,poland,china...shit like this can't be good for business... :?
this has always been my concern ...well one of them anyway...America is building plants in these countries to cut cost (BULLSHIT) and all the while these countries are on the brink of military conflict with each other so what the f..... are these corporations thinking ?????
I'm no business major but it sure seems silly to put your money into a country that is in such a situation no matter the cost, seriously is there something I am missing here,I am willing to pay attention and learn if someone could explain this...money and world dominance in a business sure make people do crazy things !

Godfather.

Byrnzie

Godfather. wrote:

how will this effect American and other foreign business ? corporations all over the US are out sourcing and sending their work and jobs to countries like Russia,poland,china...shit like this can't be good for business... :?
this has always been my concern ...well one of them anyway...America is building plants in these countries to cut cost (BULLSHIT) and all the while these countries are on the brink of military conflict with each other so what the f..... are these corporations thinking ?????
I'm no business major but it sure seems silly to put your money into a country that is in such a situation no matter the cost, seriously is there something I am missing here,I am willing to pay attention and learn if someone could explain this...money and world dominance in a business sure make people do crazy things !

Godfather.

We should find a way to gather all of the worlds leaders together in one field and give them some LSD or some ecstacy. That would solve the worlds problems overnight.

Jason P

Shawshank wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

That's pretty fucked up. Hopefully it won't escalate.

I don't see how it can't.

Well, the north did torpedo a warship and killed over 40 south sailors without any military retribution so I'm guessing cooler heads in the south will prevail.

Godfather.

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

how will this effect American and other foreign business ? corporations all over the US are out sourcing and sending their work and jobs to countries like Russia,poland,china...shit like this can't be good for business... :?
this has always been my concern ...well one of them anyway...America is building plants in these countries to cut cost (BULLSHIT) and all the while these countries are on the brink of military conflict with each other so what the f..... are these corporations thinking ?????
I'm no business major but it sure seems silly to put your money into a country that is in such a situation no matter the cost, seriously is there something I am missing here,I am willing to pay attention and learn if someone could explain this...money and world dominance in a business sure make people do crazy things !

Godfather.

We should find a way to gather all of the worlds leaders together in one field and give them some LSD or some ecstacy. That would solve the worlds problems overnight.

"and strip them all down naked"- Yoko Ono from the John Lennon album "sometime in new york city"

Godfather.

StillHere

China - North Korea's sole major ally and economic prop - expressed concern and urged restraint from all sides.

The firing came after North Korea's disclosure of an apparently operational uranium enrichment plant - a second potential way of building a nuclear bomb - which is causing serious alarm for the United States and its allies.

It also comes as North Korea prepares for an eventual dynastic succession from Kim Jong-Il to his youngest son, Kim Jong-Un.

The expected transfer is fuelling speculation about the regime's military and nuclear intentions.

The White House said it "strongly condemns" the artillery attack on the South Korean border island of Yeonpyeong, and said it was firmly committed to the defence" of its military ally Seoul."

I think that's just about all we need to hear/read as to how this will effect us all.

China vs. USA?

Oh just lovely. :evil:

Byrnzie

StillHere wrote:

I think that's just about all we need to hear/read as to how this will effect us all.

China vs. USA?

Oh just lovely. :evil:

And with me in the middle.

StillHere

Byrnzie wrote:

StillHere wrote:

I think that's just about all we need to hear/read as to how this will effect us all.

China vs. USA?

Oh just lovely. :evil:

And with me in the middle.

I hope not :roll:

gimmesometruth27

this is a powderkeg waiting to go off. with our troops in the middle of it along the border between north and south korea...

i hope that cooler heads will prevail. we don't need another war in east asia. we did that in the 50s, 60s, and 70s....

StillHere

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

this is a powderkeg waiting to go off. with our troops in the middle of it along the border between north and south korea...

i hope that cooler heads will prevail. we don't need another war in east asia. we did that in the 50s, 60s, and 70s....

to quote your signature:

everyone's right and no one is sorry. that's the start and the end of the story.

and i surely hope that's not the case this time, but that would be wishful thinking, i'm afraid.

JonnyPistachio

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

how will this effect American and other foreign business ? corporations all over the US are out sourcing and sending their work and jobs to countries like Russia,poland,china...shit like this can't be good for business... :?
this has always been my concern ...well one of them anyway...America is building plants in these countries to cut cost (BULLSHIT) and all the while these countries are on the brink of military conflict with each other so what the f..... are these corporations thinking ?????
I'm no business major but it sure seems silly to put your money into a country that is in such a situation no matter the cost, seriously is there something I am missing here,I am willing to pay attention and learn if someone could explain this...money and world dominance in a business sure make people do crazy things !

Godfather.

We should find a way to gather all of the worlds leaders together in one field and give them some LSD or some ecstacy. That would solve the worlds problems overnight.

You just reminded me of what Eddie said in the Itlay DVD.. something like -- most of the worlds conflicts are due to the decisions of a small group of men. He said we should lock them in a room until they figure out their problems. I like your idea of add ecstacy though. It might be our only hope!

gimmesometruth27

^^

can you imagine all of those supposedly dignified and hardened world leaders locked in a room hugging and rubbing all over each other after taking ecstasy?

that would be a sight to see for sure...

OutOfBreath

StillHere wrote:

China - North Korea's sole major ally and economic prop - expressed concern and urged restraint from all sides.

The firing came after North Korea's disclosure of an apparently operational uranium enrichment plant - a second potential way of building a nuclear bomb - which is causing serious alarm for the United States and its allies.

It also comes as North Korea prepares for an eventual dynastic succession from Kim Jong-Il to his youngest son, Kim Jong-Un.

The expected transfer is fuelling speculation about the regime's military and nuclear intentions.

The White House said it "strongly condemns" the artillery attack on the South Korean border island of Yeonpyeong, and said it was firmly committed to the defence" of its military ally Seoul."

I think that's just about all we need to hear/read as to how this will effect us all.

China vs. USA?

Oh just lovely. :evil:

The US will step in on S Koreas side, as will probably Japan. I dont think China is really interested in joining N Korea though if push came to shove. They'd probably not act and maybe look the other way as some weapons crossed the border, but I can't imagine that a conflict is something in China's interest. I think the rest of the world is really more important to China, than their pet ally in friendless N Korea.

But given the sheer size if the NK army, this would get extremely ugly if escalated. Yugoslavia would be a breeze comparatively. The Korean peninsula might well be just about devastated. But even so, I dont think china will go further than inaction and voting against embargos.

Peace
Dan

polaris_x

OutOfBreath wrote:

The US will step in on S Koreas side, as will probably Japan. I dont think China is really interested in joining N Korea though if push came to shove. They'd probably not act and maybe look the other way as some weapons crossed the border, but I can't imagine that a conflict is something in China's interest. I think the rest of the world is really more important to China, than their pet ally in friendless N Korea.

But given the sheer size if the NK army, this would get extremely ugly if escalated. Yugoslavia would be a breeze comparatively. The Korean peninsula might well be just about devastated. But even so, I dont think china will go further than inaction and voting against embargos.

Peace
Dan

i'm not too sure about that ... consider their lengths to control taiwan and tibet ... the primary reason being the potential strategic positions these places have ... i can't see china allowing US bases in north korea anytime soon ...

cincybearcat

Byrnzie wrote:

StillHere wrote:

I think that's just about all we need to hear/read as to how this will effect us all.

China vs. USA?

Oh just lovely. :evil:

And with me in the middle.

You'd better duck!

StillHere

OutOfBreath wrote:

StillHere wrote:

China - North Korea's sole major ally and economic prop - expressed concern and urged restraint from all sides.

The firing came after North Korea's disclosure of an apparently operational uranium enrichment plant - a second potential way of building a nuclear bomb - which is causing serious alarm for the United States and its allies.

It also comes as North Korea prepares for an eventual dynastic succession from Kim Jong-Il to his youngest son, Kim Jong-Un.

The expected transfer is fuelling speculation about the regime's military and nuclear intentions.

The White House said it "strongly condemns" the artillery attack on the South Korean border island of Yeonpyeong, and said it was firmly committed to the defence" of its military ally Seoul."

I think that's just about all we need to hear/read as to how this will effect us all.

China vs. USA?

Oh just lovely. :evil:

The US will step in on S Koreas side, as will probably Japan. I dont think China is really interested in joining N Korea though if push came to shove. They'd probably not act and maybe look the other way as some weapons crossed the border, but I can't imagine that a conflict is something in China's interest. I think the rest of the world is really more important to China, than their pet ally in friendless N Korea.

But given the sheer size if the NK army, this would get extremely ugly if escalated. Yugoslavia would be a breeze comparatively. The Korean peninsula might well be just about devastated. But even so, I dont think china will go further than inaction and voting against embargos.

Peace
Dan

i sure hope that you are right dan, but i'm not so sure
and that's a bit unnerving to say the least

OutOfBreath

polaris_x wrote:

i'm not too sure about that ... consider their lengths to control taiwan and tibet ... the primary reason being the potential strategic positions these places have ... i can't see china allowing US bases in north korea anytime soon ...

Well, yeah, but China has a lose/lose situation here. The question is which loss it will accept the best. They are too fond of stability and economic prowess these days to be really interested in a Korean war. I suspect they are having some pretty gruff unofficial talks with NK as we speak.

China would much prefer nothing happened. There is no advantage for them in a war. Tibet and Taiwan is actually different and both have histories. I dont think China is too keen on going very far to rescue their NK commy mascots from themselves. If they keep being a liability to China, China might also rather not be their ally in the end.

Peace
Dan

StillHere

OutOfBreath wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

i'm not too sure about that ... consider their lengths to control taiwan and tibet ... the primary reason being the potential strategic positions these places have ... i can't see china allowing US bases in north korea anytime soon ...

Well, yeah, but China has a lose/lose situation here. The question is which loss it will accept the best. They are too fond of stability and economic prowess these days to be really interested in a Korean war. I suspect they are having some pretty gruff unofficial talks with NK as we speak.

China would much prefer nothing happened. There is no advantage for them in a war. Tibet and Taiwan is actually different and both have histories. I dont think China is too keen on going very far to rescue their NK commy mascots from themselves. If they keep being a liability to China, China might also rather not be their ally in the end.

Peace
Dan

i can adapt to your point of view
until and unless proven differently
and i hope that doesn't happen
you are obviously much better
versed in the china topic than i am

unsung

I heard that the two killed were US Marines. Is that true?