NTH KOREA FIRES ON STH KOREA
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http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AM0TZ20101123
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I don't see how it can't.
this has always been my concern ...well one of them anyway...America is building plants in these countries to cut cost (BULLSHIT) and all the while these countries are on the brink of military conflict with each other so what the f..... are these corporations thinking ?????
I'm no business major but it sure seems silly to put your money into a country that is in such a situation no matter the cost, seriously is there something I am missing here,I am willing to pay attention and learn if someone could explain this...money and world dominance in a business sure make people do crazy things !
Godfather.
We should find a way to gather all of the worlds leaders together in one field and give them some LSD or some ecstacy. That would solve the worlds problems overnight.
"and strip them all down naked"- Yoko Ono from the John Lennon album "sometime in new york city"
Godfather.
I think that's just about all we need to hear/read as to how this will effect us all.
China vs. USA?
Oh just lovely. :evil:
jo
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"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
And with me in the middle.
I hope not :roll:
jo
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"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
i hope that cooler heads will prevail. we don't need another war in east asia. we did that in the 50s, 60s, and 70s....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
to quote your signature:
and i surely hope that's not the case this time, but that would be wishful thinking, i'm afraid.
jo
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"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
You just reminded me of what Eddie said in the Itlay DVD.. something like -- most of the worlds conflicts are due to the decisions of a small group of men. He said we should lock them in a room until they figure out their problems. I like your idea of add ecstacy though. It might be our only hope!
can you imagine all of those supposedly dignified and hardened world leaders locked in a room hugging and rubbing all over each other after taking ecstasy?
that would be a sight to see for sure...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The US will step in on S Koreas side, as will probably Japan. I dont think China is really interested in joining N Korea though if push came to shove. They'd probably not act and maybe look the other way as some weapons crossed the border, but I can't imagine that a conflict is something in China's interest. I think the rest of the world is really more important to China, than their pet ally in friendless N Korea.
But given the sheer size if the NK army, this would get extremely ugly if escalated. Yugoslavia would be a breeze comparatively. The Korean peninsula might well be just about devastated. But even so, I dont think china will go further than inaction and voting against embargos.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
i'm not too sure about that ... consider their lengths to control taiwan and tibet ... the primary reason being the potential strategic positions these places have ... i can't see china allowing US bases in north korea anytime soon ...
You'd better duck!
i sure hope that you are right dan, but i'm not so sure
and that's a bit unnerving to say the least
jo
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"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
China would much prefer nothing happened. There is no advantage for them in a war. Tibet and Taiwan is actually different and both have histories. I dont think China is too keen on going very far to rescue their NK commy mascots from themselves. If they keep being a liability to China, China might also rather not be their ally in the end.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
i can adapt to your point of view
until and unless proven differently
and i hope that doesn't happen
you are obviously much better
versed in the china topic than i am
jo
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"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
i was wondering the same thing
it just said that 5 marines were injured and 2 killed
it didn't say who's marines
if they were OURs well then, that ramps things up a bit doesn't it?
geeez
this whole war thing all over the freakin' world sux big time
i guess it will never change...
so i'll just say as usual...
PEACE
(no one listens)
jo
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
Well, he has sons. Is this supposed to be Saddam Hussein part two?
South Korea warns North of 'enormous retaliation' after attack
Two killed after Pyongyang fires on Yeonpyeong island in first attack on South Korean land since 1953 war
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/no ... outh-korea
South Korea warned today that it will unleash "enormous retaliation" if North Korea launches fresh attacks against its territory.
North Korean troops bombarded Yeonpyeong, an island in disputed waters, with dozens of rounds of artillery earlier today, reportedly killing two South Korean soldiers and injuring around 20 people.
Seoul placed its military on its highest non-wartime alert level, scrambling F-16 fighter jets to the western sea and returning fire, officials said. It warned that the attack was a violation of the armistice that ended the Korean war in 1953.
The South Korean president, Lee Myung-bak, who convened an emergency security meeting shortly after the initial bombardment, said an "indiscriminate attack on civilians" could never be tolerated.
"Enormous retaliation should be made, to the extent that [North Korea] cannot make provocations again," he said.
The assault is one of the most serious in the decades since the war, given the involvement of civilians, although previous firefights around the disputed maritime border have resulted in a higher number of casualties.
In a short statement carried by the official KCNA news agency, the North said the South had fired first – presumably in reference to a live-fire drill being carried out as part of annual military exercises. It said it had repeatedly warned the South not to go ahead with the drill.
Analysts said that despite the seriousness of the clash, the situation was unlikely to escalate dramatically given the high stakes involved for all parties.
It comes amid growing international concern over reports that North Korea has a new uranium enrichment facility.
Lee ordered officials to "sternly respond" to North Korea's action but stressed that they had to make sure the "situation would not escalate," an aide said.
Yeonpyeong is only around 75 miles west of the South Korean capital.
Broadcasters showed smoke rising from houses in the attack, and Seoul's YTN television said residents had been evacuated to bunkers after firing broke out, at around 2.30pm. It is thought around 1,200 people live on the island.
Lee Chun-ok, a 54-year-old island resident, said she had been watching TV when she heard sounds of artillery, and a wall and door in her home suddenly collapsed.
"I thought I would die," said Lee, who had been evacuated to the port city of Incheon. "I was really, really terrified, and I'm still terrified."
The White House condemned the attack as "belligerent", adding: "The United States is firmly committed to the defence of our ally … and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability."
In London, William Hague urged Pyongyang to stop further "unprovoked" attacks.
Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, said there was a "colossal danger" of escalation, Reuters reported. He added: "Those who started this bear a huge responsibility."
China, North Korea's main ally, steered clear of assigning blame. A foreign ministry spokesman, Hong Lei, urged both sides to "do more to contribute to peace and stability in the region".
An unofficial spokesman for North Korea told the Guardian that firing artillery was a "totally justifiable act of self-defence" in response to the sea drills and warned that nuclear war could follow "at any point" unless the exercises stop. Pyongyang has repeatedly issued such threats in the past.
"If the South continues its dangerous behaviour, Seoul will be the next target. It will be a sea of fire," said Kim Myong-chol, executive director of the Centre for Korean-American Peace.
Han Seung-joo, a former South Korean foreign minister, said the "reckless and provocative" act suggested desperation on North Korea's part, and suggested it may be meant to send a message to a domestic audience rather than to the outside world, boosting solidarity and "show[ing] that they can get away with this".
Professor Chu Shulong, an expert on international security at Beijing's Tsinghua University, said it was too early to be sure what had happened.
But he added: "Over the years, North Korea has always been a place that likes to make trouble to get attention from the international community. After they get attention, they can start a new round of negotiations and get supplies from other countries. This is what they have been doing during the past 20 years."
The disputed maritime border has long been a source of friction and has seen repeated skirmishes – in some cases fatal – in recent years.
Relations between the two Koreas have remained especially tense since the South's Cheonan warship sank in March, killing 46 sailors. An international investigation led by Seoul blamed a North Korean torpedo but Pyongyang denies any involvement.
Smoke goes up from Yeonpyeong island after North Korea attacked the South Korean island near its border. Photograph: AP
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11823474
as much as china loves the american consumer ... the relationship is mutual ... china will not allow a country like the US to control North Korea ... and they have lots of resources to prevent that ...
I say... let someone else be the world's goddamn police for a change.
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