And I dare you guys to run Palin/Gingrich in 2012.
It's just as biased as wikipedia.
Do you have any evidence of such bias? I find that hard to believe when some people's comments think of Conservapedia like this....
Originally Posted by old guy
making a claim about Obama and truth and using conservapedia as "proof" show the poster has no idea what hes talking about
Facts be damned.
WE MUST HATE OBAMA AND CITE ANY RIDICULOURS SOURCE POSSIBLE TO DO SO.
.....so looking past the truth is much more important at sites like Consrevapedia.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
And I dare you guys to run Palin/Gingrich in 2012.
It's just as biased as wikipedia.
Do you have any evidence of such bias? I find that hard to believe when some people's comments think of Conservapedia like this....
Originally Posted by old guy
making a claim about Obama and truth and using conservapedia as "proof" show the poster has no idea what hes talking about
Facts be damned.
WE MUST HATE OBAMA AND CITE ANY RIDICULOURS SOURCE POSSIBLE TO DO SO.
.....so looking past the truth is much more important at sites like Consrevapedia.
Peace
OK this is just too fun, can anybody post some stuff to disprove the article ? not that means a hill of beans to me one way or the other but this is turning to some great entertainment.
Godfather.
0
unsung
I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
My thoughts are this. Many of you on here don't want to know the truth about Obama and his past or you just don't care and IMO you be would just as content living under an authoritarian dictatorship. I think some of you do know the truth and don't want to admit it at least not here.So of course anything that comes out on Obama that paints him in a negative light is going to ge from a conservative or right leaning source. Before you write it off do your research. You think Media matters,Huffington Post, Or any other left leaning source is going to give you all the facts about his past ? :roll:
Go read Stanley Kurtz new Book if you want facts.
Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism
In his controversial new book, veteran journalist Stanley Kurtz culls together two years of investigations from archives and never-before-tapped sources to present an exhaustively-researched exposÉ of President Obama’s biggest secret—the socialist convictions and tactical ruthlessness he has long swept under the rug.
A personable figure, a thoughtful politician, and an inspiring orator, Obama has hidden his core political beliefs from the American people—sometimes by directly misrepresenting his past and sometimes by omitting or parceling out damaging information to disguise its real importance. The president presents himself as a post-ideological pragmatist, yet his current policies grow directly from the nexus of socialist associates and theories that has shaped him throughout his adult life.
Kurtz makes an in-depth exploration of the president’s connections to radical groups such as ACORN, UNO of Chicago, the Midwest Academy, and the Socialist Scholars Conferences. He explains what modern “stealth” socialism is, how it has changed, and how it continues to influence the Democratic Party. He sheds light on what the New York Times called a “lost chapter” of the president’s life—his years at Columbia—and proves that Obama’s youthful infatuation with socialism was not just a phase. Those ideas have shaped his political views and set the groundwork for the long-term strategy of his administration.
It could be argued that Obama’s past no longer matters, but, in a sense, it matters more than the present. Obama has adopted the gradualist socialist strategy of his mentors, seeking to combine comprehensive government regulation of private businesses with a steadily enlarging public sector. Eventually, in his hands, capitalist America could resemble a socialist-inspired Scandinavian welfare state.
The gap between inner conviction and public relations in Obama’s case is vastly wider than for most American politicians. If Americans understood in 2008 the facts Kurtz reveals in this shocking political biography, Obama would not be president today. The fears of his harshest critics are justified: our Commander-in- Chief is a Radical-in-Chief.
About the Author
STANLEY KURTZ is a Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, as well as a contributing editor for National Review Online. He has also written for National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal, Policy Review, and Commentary.
My thoughts are this. Many of you on here don't want to know the truth about Obama and his past or you just don't care and IMO you be would just as content living under an authoritarian dictatorship. I think some of you do know the truth and don't want to admit it at least not here.So of course anything that comes out on Obama that paints him in a negative light is going to ge from a conservative or right leaning source. Before you write it off do your research. You think Media matters,Huffington Post, Or any other left leaning source is going to give you all the facts about his past ? :roll:
Go read Stanley Kurtz new Book if you want facts.
Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism
In his controversial new book, veteran journalist Stanley Kurtz culls together two years of investigations from archives and never-before-tapped sources to present an exhaustively-researched exposÉ of President Obama’s biggest secret—the socialist convictions and tactical ruthlessness he has long swept under the rug.
A personable figure, a thoughtful politician, and an inspiring orator, Obama has hidden his core political beliefs from the American people—sometimes by directly misrepresenting his past and sometimes by omitting or parceling out damaging information to disguise its real importance. The president presents himself as a post-ideological pragmatist, yet his current policies grow directly from the nexus of socialist associates and theories that has shaped him throughout his adult life.
Kurtz makes an in-depth exploration of the president’s connections to radical groups such as ACORN, UNO of Chicago, the Midwest Academy, and the Socialist Scholars Conferences. He explains what modern “stealth” socialism is, how it has changed, and how it continues to influence the Democratic Party. He sheds light on what the New York Times called a “lost chapter” of the president’s life—his years at Columbia—and proves that Obama’s youthful infatuation with socialism was not just a phase. Those ideas have shaped his political views and set the groundwork for the long-term strategy of his administration.
It could be argued that Obama’s past no longer matters, but, in a sense, it matters more than the present. Obama has adopted the gradualist socialist strategy of his mentors, seeking to combine comprehensive government regulation of private businesses with a steadily enlarging public sector. Eventually, in his hands, capitalist America could resemble a socialist-inspired Scandinavian welfare state.
The gap between inner conviction and public relations in Obama’s case is vastly wider than for most American politicians. If Americans understood in 2008 the facts Kurtz reveals in this shocking political biography, Obama would not be president today. The fears of his harshest critics are justified: our Commander-in- Chief is a Radical-in-Chief.
About the Author
STANLEY KURTZ is a Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, as well as a contributing editor for National Review Online. He has also written for National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal, Policy Review, and Commentary.
Ignorant ? yeah whatever :roll: Im over the fact that he won. Im focused on him not being re elected. And I didn't call him a full blown socialist becuase there are different types of socialist just like there are different types of conservatives. Why don't you go and read the book and maybe you might actually learn a thing or two before you start calling people ignorant.
Here's another one for you and all the rest of the Obama drones..
“Generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal,” and that “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” That, of course, was Barack Obama upon securing his party’s nomination for president.
It didn’t take generations but only a couple of years for a majority of Americans to begin to realize that instead of messianic healing, Barack Obama is inflicting unprecedented injuries on America and the liberties of its citizens. Now there is a book that documents this alarming news in a very comprehensive yet readable way. My friend David Limbaugh’s Crimes Against Liberty is the one book all Americans should read before November.
Before you dismiss Crimes Against Liberty because it is written by a Limbaugh (after all, you’re not a bigot, right?), realize that people can present evidence objectively even if they personally are not neutral. First, neutral people rarely have the interest or expertise to write books! But more importantly, you can’t dismiss what Limbaugh says simply because he might have a conservative agenda. That’s a fallacy that cuts both ways—you’d have to dismiss everything Obama says because he has a liberal agenda. The truth is, everyone has an agenda. The issue is not the agenda, but the evidence one presents!
Like the good attorney he is, Limbaugh presents a wealth of irrefutable evidence for his thesis quoting several liberals along the way. His meticulously researched indictment of Barack Obama and his Administration lays out fact after fact that will educate even political junkies who mistakenly thought they knew it all. I follow politics closely, but I didn’t know the extent to which those currently in power are dismantling our liberties and security until I read this book.
Since Crimes Against Liberty is over 500 pages (including nearly 100 pages of endnotes), I can only summarize a small number of facts that Limbaugh presents about the Obama Administration. You need to get the book to appreciate the breadth of the problem—a problem that most in the major media have failed to report.
Limbaugh documents that Obama usurps rights and laws. For example:
• Obama admitted that he doesn’t care about the lawmaking process just the result. David Axelrod also expressed this same sentiment, which strikes the heart of the American system—the process does matter. We are a nation of laws not men.
• Obama decided to give $140 billion to the IMF without Congressional approval. Even Congressional liberals objected to this.
• His EPA classified carbon dioxide as a toxic air pollutant and then claimed authority to set emissions standards without Congressional approval. (A toxic pollutant? It’s plant food!)
• Obama’s Department of Justice dismissed a case against the new Black Panther party that had clear video evidence of voter intimidation. Todd Graziano, Member of US Commission on Civil Rights, says there is a culture in the DOJ where they “don’t believe the voting rights laws should ever be enforced against blacks and other minorities.” So much for “equal protection” guaranteed by the Constitution.
• Obama threatened legal action against some companies (such as Humana) for informing their customers about the potential problems with Obamacare. That is the government seeking to criminalize free speech!
• The Obama Administration asked Americans to report their friends for circulating emails critical of ObamaCare. Can you say Big Brother?
• Obama also sent unsolicited emails to federal workers urging them to support ObamaCare. Some workers complained privately about the partisan emails but they feared retribution if they went public.
• Obama has been pushing for “Net Neutrality Rules” to seize control of, or to shut down, portions of the Internet.
Limbaugh shows that Obama often leads by slander and intimidation. For example:
• Tom Lauria, an attorney in the Chrysler bailout negotiations, claimed, “One of my clients was directly threatened by the White House and, in essence, compelled to withdraw his opposition to the deal under the threat of the full force of the White House press corps would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight.” Why was Lauria’s client opposing the deal? Because Obama offered his UAW buddies 50 cents on the dollar for their unsecured debt while offering Lauria’s client only 33 cents on the dollar for their secured debt. This is contrary to fundamental bankruptcy laws. Limbaugh observes, “Here was the President of the United States, again, attacking the reputation and integrity of a private firm merely for asserting its rights in the negotiation…. Obama picks winners and losers based on political allegiance and cronyism—the rule of law be damned.” Even mild-mannered Michael Barone called this “Gangster Government.”
• Obama used civil rights language (“discrimination”) to slander insurance companies for lawfully excluding people with pre-existing conditions. He later inadvertently admitted that’s necessary otherwise patients could game the system and get insurance only after getting sick.
• As if it was his money, Obama threatened to withhold stimulus money from Arizona because Senator Kyl said on TV that the stimulus wasn’t helping the economy.
• Obama abruptly fired Americorps Inspector General Gerald Walpin—who was tasked to ferret out government corruption and to protect whistleblowers—as Walpin was uncovering misuse of a federal grant by an Obama crony. Limbaugh writes of the cover up by the White House after the firing. (It’s alarming that the man tasked to protect government whistleblowers needs whistleblower protection himself from the President of the United States!)
• Obama and others in his Administration have characterized states rights people, pro-lifers, and war veterans as rightwing “extremists” and potential terrorists. (This from a man who in Illinois twice voted against protecting live babies who survived abortion, and who refuses to call real terrorists, like the Fort Hood shooter, what they are.)
• Tea Party people are “tea baggers” and “anti-government” “extremists.” (What a unifier our President is!)
• People who object to homosexual behavior possess “worn arguments and old attitudes.” (Yes, Mr. President, the truth is very old indeed; it’s impervious to hope and change.)
• Doctors are unethical because they do unnecessary surgery to make money. (Obama avoids mentioning unethical behavior by the Democrat-contributing trial lawyers who dramatically drive up health care costs through bogus malpractice lawsuits.)
• Business people are “fat cats” making “immoral” and “obscene” profits (while Obama rakes in $2.5 million in book royalties and pays the Government Motors CEO $9 million).
Limbaugh also documents how Obama:
• Is creating unimaginable debt, and that the average debt under Democrat Congresses is ten times that of Republican Congresses.
• Cooked the books and hid data about the true exploding cost of ObamaCare just a week before the vote.
• Struck a deal that with pharmaceutical companies that lined their pockets but disadvantaged consumers.
• Signed bills that make bailouts and reckless lending more likely.
• Has given nearly a billion dollars to Hamas-ruled Gaza while undermining our ally Israel at almost every turn.
• Continues to weaken our national security by signaling appeasement to Iran and by refusing to acknowledge or confront threats from radical Islam.
• Broke his promises to be transparent and avoided public scrutiny by burying unpopular provisions in other legislation. This includes the reversal of the enormously successful welfare reform and the establishment a super medical bureaucratic board (in effect a “death panel”).
Barack Obama is not the President we’ve been waiting for, but Crimes Against Liberty is the book we’ve been waiting for. If you love America, get the book, read it, and tell your friends before November.
oh yes the internet gives you plenty of garbage to post here
This garbage exists when a Repub is in office and it exists when a Dem is in office. Learn to seek the actual truth and make something out of yourself.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018) The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
0
unsung
I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
Amazing how left leaning people have no problems with what is being done now. You all bitched about Bush and the PATRIOT Act but Obama is now the one who keeps it as law.
But it's so quiet you can hear a pin drop.
Meanwhile your wife is being groped by some uneducated goon (man or woman) at the airport in the sake of security and no one here says a thing.
Amazing how left leaning people have no problems with what is being done now. You all bitched about Bush and the PATRIOT Act but Obama is now the one who keeps it as law.
But it's so quiet you can hear a pin drop.
Meanwhile your wife is being groped by some uneducated goon (man or woman) at the airport in the sake of security and no one here says a thing.
Hypocrites.
did Obama run on overturning the Patriot Act? I don't think so.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018) The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
obama can't win. if he eases the patriot act and eases the tsa screenings and we get hit again then you cons would have a field day blaming him. now you are saying that the screenings are an invasion of privacy and your liberty is being taken away and yada yada....you can not have it both ways....will you make up your minds please? it is the cons who are always "national security this and national security that" and yet now you complain, after 6 years of patriot act and tsa screenings under bush, you complain NOW. only because it is not your guy in office. things were great for you all under bush no doubt, am i right? i love how transparent people can be sometimes...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Meanwhile your wife is being groped by some uneducated goon (man or woman) at the airport in the sake of security and no one here says a thing.
That is one of the biggest overblown "news" stories we've had in a while.. I guess it's a slow time for news after the elections, so something has to take it's place.
But these patdowns will stop... and not because a bunch of people who probably don't fly anyway are complaining, but the airlines are going to take a hit because of the media... On top of bag fees, shitty customer service, etc, the industry doesn't need any more bad press.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
and by the way, i thought he was taking your guns away too...
Yes he was going to take away our guns and make us all marxist/socialist/nazis. He is rewriting the constitution and bill of rights and he is a muslim who will put prayer rugs in the oval office.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018) The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
and by the way, i thought he was taking your guns away too...
Yes he was going to take away our guns and make us all marxist/socialist/nazis. He is rewriting the constitution and bill of rights and he is a muslim who will put prayer rugs in the oval office.
oh, and don't forget about indoctrining our kids in school, re-instating the fairness act, and his private civil army that he was going to form.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
0
unsung
I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
Amazing how left leaning people have no problems with what is being done now. You all bitched about Bush and the PATRIOT Act but Obama is now the one who keeps it as law.
But it's so quiet you can hear a pin drop.
Meanwhile your wife is being groped by some uneducated goon (man or woman) at the airport in the sake of security and no one here says a thing.
Hypocrites.
Don't call me a hypocrite, please.
I am opposed to the Patriot Act, and to the escalating war in Afghanistan. So, those are 2 parts of Obama's policies that I disagree with. I want the kids home now! I am pissed that Obama has not brought them home already. As George McGovern said, I am sick and tired of old men sending kids to die.
I don't think everyone is blindly following Obama. I do think though, that I, and others like me, are defending Obama against ludicrous accusations and false criticisms. The rhetoric of hate is alive and well; the propaganda campaign that has been implemented since 11/08 is thriving and has proven to be successful. Bush was labeled a fascist during his presidency; I could write a 500 page book on how Bush and his cronies were fascist. That doesn't make it so, and I don't think he was/is - though I would love to feel that way.
I recently spoke to a PhD student in Political Science in a class we are in together. He is an avowed socialist and he says Obama is nowhere near a socialist. This is just one person's opinion, but it is the opinion of an educated person who spends his life studying political theory. We all have our opinions and our beliefs, but only a small percentage of us have educated, intelligent opinions. And, as I have said before, in American Society beliefs are more important than facts. This makes for a very scary world.
I support aspects of socialism in society. I support social security, medicaid, and medicare. I feel, with my knowledge of socialism, that our healthcare industry, mortgage industry, education system, banking and financial industry would improve and BENEFIT THE PEOPLE under a system that embraced some aspects of socialism. In my opinion, the aforementioned industries should not be DRIVEN BY PROFIT. People will always make their money - there is no reason to destroy the lives of others to do so. Outsourcing wouldn't be the death blow it has been to U.S. jobs and the American Worker. Socialism is NOT a bad, evil word. Stalinism and Communism are - and these two terms are what people are using to define Socialism. It simply is not accurate. But, people are too lazy to acquire knowledge. Speaking is easy; speaking intelligently is not.
Amazing how left leaning people have no problems with what is being done now. You all bitched about Bush and the PATRIOT Act but Obama is now the one who keeps it as law.
But it's so quiet you can hear a pin drop.
Meanwhile your wife is being groped by some uneducated goon (man or woman) at the airport in the sake of security and no one here says a thing.
Hypocrites.
Don't call me a hypocrite, please.
I am opposed to the Patriot Act, and to the escalating war in Afghanistan. So, those are 2 parts of Obama's policies that I disagree with. I want the kids home now! I am pissed that Obama has not brought them home already. As George McGovern said, I am sick and tired of old men sending kids to die.
I don't think everyone is blindly following Obama. I do think though, that I, and others like me, are defending Obama against ludicrous accusations and false criticisms. The rhetoric of hate is alive and well; the propaganda campaign that has been implemented since 11/08 is thriving and has proven to be successful. Bush was labeled a fascist during his presidency; I could write a 500 page book on how Bush and his cronies were fascist. That doesn't make it so, and I don't think he was/is - though I would love to feel that way.
I recently spoke to a PhD student in Political Science in a class we are in together. He is an avowed socialist and he says Obama is nowhere near a socialist. This is just one person's opinion, but it is the opinion of an educated person who spends his life studying political theory. We all have our opinions and our beliefs, but only a small percentage of us have educated, intelligent opinions. And, as I have said before, in American Society beliefs are more important than facts. This makes for a very scary world.
I support aspects of socialism in society. I support social security, medicaid, and medicare. I feel, with my knowledge of socialism, that our healthcare industry, mortgage industry, education system, banking and financial industry would improve and BENEFIT THE PEOPLE under a system that embraced some aspects of socialism. In my opinion, the aforementioned industries should not be DRIVEN BY PROFIT. People will always make their money - there is no reason to destroy the lives of others to do so. Outsourcing wouldn't be the death blow it has been to U.S. jobs and the American Worker. Socialism is NOT a bad, evil word. Stalinism and Communism are - and these two terms are what people are using to define Socialism. It simply is not accurate. But, people are too lazy to acquire knowledge. Speaking is easy; speaking intelligently is not.
0
g under p
Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
Amazing how left leaning people have no problems with what is being done now. You all bitched about Bush and the PATRIOT Act but Obama is now the one who keeps it as law.
But it's so quiet you can hear a pin drop.
Meanwhile your wife is being groped by some uneducated goon (man or woman) at the airport in the sake of security and no one here says a thing.
Hypocrites.
Don't call me a hypocrite, please.
I am opposed to the Patriot Act, and to the escalating war in Afghanistan. So, those are 2 parts of Obama's policies that I disagree with. I want the kids home now! I am pissed that Obama has not brought them home already. As George McGovern said, I am sick and tired of old men sending kids to die.
I don't think everyone is blindly following Obama. I do think though, that I, and others like me, are defending Obama against ludicrous accusations and false criticisms. The rhetoric of hate is alive and well; the propaganda campaign that has been implemented since 11/08 is thriving and has proven to be successful. Bush was labeled a fascist during his presidency; I could write a 500 page book on how Bush and his cronies were fascist. That doesn't make it so, and I don't think he was/is - though I would love to feel that way.
I recently spoke to a PhD student in Political Science in a class we are in together. He is an avowed socialist and he says Obama is nowhere near a socialist. This is just one person's opinion, but it is the opinion of an educated person who spends his life studying political theory. We all have our opinions and our beliefs, but only a small percentage of us have educated, intelligent opinions. And, as I have said before, in American Society beliefs are more important than facts. This makes for a very scary world.
I support aspects of socialism in society. I support social security, medicaid, and medicare. I feel, with my knowledge of socialism, that our healthcare industry, mortgage industry, education system, banking and financial industry would improve and BENEFIT THE PEOPLE under a system that embraced some aspects of socialism. In my opinion, the aforementioned industries should not be DRIVEN BY PROFIT. People will always make their money - there is no reason to destroy the lives of others to do so. Outsourcing wouldn't be the death blow it has been to U.S. jobs and the American Worker. Socialism is NOT a bad, evil word. Stalinism and Communism are - and these two terms are what people are using to define Socialism. It simply is not accurate. But, people are too lazy to acquire knowledge. Speaking is easy; speaking intelligently is not.
BRAVO, I too would like to see an end to the Patriot Act and the war in Afghanistan. Unsung, Please don't make across the board generalizations about people because I don't or won't follow ANY politician blindly because if you do you are a fool.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Do you have any evidence of such bias? I find that hard to believe when some people's comments think of Conservapedia like this....
Originally Posted by old guy
making a claim about Obama and truth and using conservapedia as "proof" show the poster has no idea what hes talking about
Facts be damned.
WE MUST HATE OBAMA AND CITE ANY RIDICULOURS SOURCE POSSIBLE TO DO SO.
.....so looking past the truth is much more important at sites like Consrevapedia.
Peace
OK this is just too fun, can anybody post some stuff to disprove the article ? not that means a hill of beans to me one way or the other but this is turning to some great entertainment.
Godfather.
you mean like i did 2 or 3 posts before yours?? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Amazing how left leaning people have no problems with what is being done now. You all bitched about Bush and the PATRIOT Act but Obama is now the one who keeps it as law.
But it's so quiet you can hear a pin drop.
Meanwhile your wife is being groped by some uneducated goon (man or woman) at the airport in the sake of security and no one here says a thing.
Hypocrites.
Don't call me a hypocrite, please.
I am opposed to the Patriot Act, and to the escalating war in Afghanistan. So, those are 2 parts of Obama's policies that I disagree with. I want the kids home now! I am pissed that Obama has not brought them home already. As George McGovern said, I am sick and tired of old men sending kids to die.
I don't think everyone is blindly following Obama. I do think though, that I, and others like me, are defending Obama against ludicrous accusations and false criticisms. The rhetoric of hate is alive and well; the propaganda campaign that has been implemented since 11/08 is thriving and has proven to be successful. Bush was labeled a fascist during his presidency; I could write a 500 page book on how Bush and his cronies were fascist. That doesn't make it so, and I don't think he was/is - though I would love to feel that way.
I recently spoke to a PhD student in Political Science in a class we are in together. He is an avowed socialist and he says Obama is nowhere near a socialist. This is just one person's opinion, but it is the opinion of an educated person who spends his life studying political theory. We all have our opinions and our beliefs, but only a small percentage of us have educated, intelligent opinions. And, as I have said before, in American Society beliefs are more important than facts. This makes for a very scary world.
I support aspects of socialism in society. I support social security, medicaid, and medicare. I feel, with my knowledge of socialism, that our healthcare industry, mortgage industry, education system, banking and financial industry would improve and BENEFIT THE PEOPLE under a system that embraced some aspects of socialism. In my opinion, the aforementioned industries should not be DRIVEN BY PROFIT. People will always make their money - there is no reason to destroy the lives of others to do so. Outsourcing wouldn't be the death blow it has been to U.S. jobs and the American Worker. Socialism is NOT a bad, evil word. Stalinism and Communism are - and these two terms are what people are using to define Socialism. It simply is not accurate. But, people are too lazy to acquire knowledge. Speaking is easy; speaking intelligently is not.
but how can any obama supporter be "pissed that Obama has not brought them home already. As George McGovern said, I am sick and tired of old men sending kids to die." when he ALWAYS SAID he would escalate the war in afghanistan? he even put on his campaign website that a lot of the troops would only be moved from iraq to afghanistan!
seriously, i've seen people say things like "that wasn't part of the plan!!!" ugggggh, yeah, it always was the plan!
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Well I was banned because I quoted the 2nd Amendment when I edited a page. The banning person was from Finland. I was banned for vandalism.
Seems a little biased to me.
In all fairness, your comments about the 2nd Amendment really had nothing to do with the Justin Bieber page you were editing... I mean, I'm as sick of him as the next guy too, but...
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
Why are you so sure god is white..? If Jesus lived, he almost certainly would've been middle-eastern looking.
Conservatives would HATE Jesus if he suddenly showed up today. He looks like a "terrorist" because he's from the Middle East, and he's a "socialist radical hippy" because he preached equality and loving thy neighbor
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
My thoughts are this. Many of you on here don't want to know the truth about Obama and his past or you just don't care and IMO you be would just as content living under an authoritarian dictatorship. I think some of you do know the truth and don't want to admit it at least not here.So of course anything that comes out on Obama that paints him in a negative light is going to ge from a conservative or right leaning source. Before you write it off do your research. You think Media matters,Huffington Post, Or any other left leaning source is going to give you all the facts about his past ? :roll:
Go read Stanley Kurtz new Book if you want facts.
Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism
In his controversial new book, veteran journalist Stanley Kurtz culls together two years of investigations from archives and never-before-tapped sources to present an exhaustively-researched exposÉ of President Obama’s biggest secret—the socialist convictions and tactical ruthlessness he has long swept under the rug.
A personable figure, a thoughtful politician, and an inspiring orator, Obama has hidden his core political beliefs from the American people—sometimes by directly misrepresenting his past and sometimes by omitting or parceling out damaging information to disguise its real importance. The president presents himself as a post-ideological pragmatist, yet his current policies grow directly from the nexus of socialist associates and theories that has shaped him throughout his adult life.
Kurtz makes an in-depth exploration of the president’s connections to radical groups such as ACORN, UNO of Chicago, the Midwest Academy, and the Socialist Scholars Conferences. He explains what modern “stealth” socialism is, how it has changed, and how it continues to influence the Democratic Party. He sheds light on what the New York Times called a “lost chapter” of the president’s life—his years at Columbia—and proves that Obama’s youthful infatuation with socialism was not just a phase. Those ideas have shaped his political views and set the groundwork for the long-term strategy of his administration.
It could be argued that Obama’s past no longer matters, but, in a sense, it matters more than the present. Obama has adopted the gradualist socialist strategy of his mentors, seeking to combine comprehensive government regulation of private businesses with a steadily enlarging public sector. Eventually, in his hands, capitalist America could resemble a socialist-inspired Scandinavian welfare state.
The gap between inner conviction and public relations in Obama’s case is vastly wider than for most American politicians. If Americans understood in 2008 the facts Kurtz reveals in this shocking political biography, Obama would not be president today. The fears of his harshest critics are justified: our Commander-in- Chief is a Radical-in-Chief.
About the Author
STANLEY KURTZ is a Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, as well as a contributing editor for National Review Online. He has also written for National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal, Policy Review, and Commentary.
Beside the fact that you can't call Huffington Post biased and then expect someone to take a book called "Radical-in-Chief" seriously (Because if HuffPo is biased, then a book called "Radical-in-Chief" sounds REALLY biased), I had to laugh at this sentence:
"Eventually, in his hands, capitalist America could resemble a socialist-inspired Scandinavian welfare state."
Given that Scandanavian countries have a higher standard of living than the U.S. and have better education systems and better healthcare systems, I have to say it doesn't sound too bad.
(ignoring, of course, the fact that it isn't what he's doing at all)
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
Comments
Do you have any evidence of such bias? I find that hard to believe when some people's comments think of Conservapedia like this....
Facts be damned.
WE MUST HATE OBAMA AND CITE ANY RIDICULOURS SOURCE POSSIBLE TO DO SO.
.....so looking past the truth is much more important at sites like Consrevapedia.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
OK this is just too fun, can anybody post some stuff to disprove the article ? not that means a hill of beans to me one way or the other but this is turning to some great entertainment.
Godfather.
Well I was banned because I quoted the 2nd Amendment when I edited a page. The banning person was from Finland. I was banned for vandalism.
Seems a little biased to me.
Go read Stanley Kurtz new Book if you want facts.
Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism
http://www.amazon.com/Radical-Chief-Bar ... 1439155089
In his controversial new book, veteran journalist Stanley Kurtz culls together two years of investigations from archives and never-before-tapped sources to present an exhaustively-researched exposÉ of President Obama’s biggest secret—the socialist convictions and tactical ruthlessness he has long swept under the rug.
A personable figure, a thoughtful politician, and an inspiring orator, Obama has hidden his core political beliefs from the American people—sometimes by directly misrepresenting his past and sometimes by omitting or parceling out damaging information to disguise its real importance. The president presents himself as a post-ideological pragmatist, yet his current policies grow directly from the nexus of socialist associates and theories that has shaped him throughout his adult life.
Kurtz makes an in-depth exploration of the president’s connections to radical groups such as ACORN, UNO of Chicago, the Midwest Academy, and the Socialist Scholars Conferences. He explains what modern “stealth” socialism is, how it has changed, and how it continues to influence the Democratic Party. He sheds light on what the New York Times called a “lost chapter” of the president’s life—his years at Columbia—and proves that Obama’s youthful infatuation with socialism was not just a phase. Those ideas have shaped his political views and set the groundwork for the long-term strategy of his administration.
It could be argued that Obama’s past no longer matters, but, in a sense, it matters more than the present. Obama has adopted the gradualist socialist strategy of his mentors, seeking to combine comprehensive government regulation of private businesses with a steadily enlarging public sector. Eventually, in his hands, capitalist America could resemble a socialist-inspired Scandinavian welfare state.
The gap between inner conviction and public relations in Obama’s case is vastly wider than for most American politicians. If Americans understood in 2008 the facts Kurtz reveals in this shocking political biography, Obama would not be president today. The fears of his harshest critics are justified: our Commander-in- Chief is a Radical-in-Chief.
About the Author
STANLEY KURTZ is a Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, as well as a contributing editor for National Review Online. He has also written for National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal, Policy Review, and Commentary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Kurtz
By calling Obama a socialist you are labeling your own ignorance. He won, get over it.
If he had any type of unpopular agenda he would have used his first two years in a much more active way don't you think?
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Here's another one for you and all the rest of the Obama drones..
Crimes Against Liberty By David Limbaugh
http://townhall.com/columnists/FrankTur ... page/full/
“Generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal,” and that “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” That, of course, was Barack Obama upon securing his party’s nomination for president.
It didn’t take generations but only a couple of years for a majority of Americans to begin to realize that instead of messianic healing, Barack Obama is inflicting unprecedented injuries on America and the liberties of its citizens. Now there is a book that documents this alarming news in a very comprehensive yet readable way. My friend David Limbaugh’s Crimes Against Liberty is the one book all Americans should read before November.
Before you dismiss Crimes Against Liberty because it is written by a Limbaugh (after all, you’re not a bigot, right?), realize that people can present evidence objectively even if they personally are not neutral. First, neutral people rarely have the interest or expertise to write books! But more importantly, you can’t dismiss what Limbaugh says simply because he might have a conservative agenda. That’s a fallacy that cuts both ways—you’d have to dismiss everything Obama says because he has a liberal agenda. The truth is, everyone has an agenda. The issue is not the agenda, but the evidence one presents!
Like the good attorney he is, Limbaugh presents a wealth of irrefutable evidence for his thesis quoting several liberals along the way. His meticulously researched indictment of Barack Obama and his Administration lays out fact after fact that will educate even political junkies who mistakenly thought they knew it all. I follow politics closely, but I didn’t know the extent to which those currently in power are dismantling our liberties and security until I read this book.
Since Crimes Against Liberty is over 500 pages (including nearly 100 pages of endnotes), I can only summarize a small number of facts that Limbaugh presents about the Obama Administration. You need to get the book to appreciate the breadth of the problem—a problem that most in the major media have failed to report.
Limbaugh documents that Obama usurps rights and laws. For example:
• Obama admitted that he doesn’t care about the lawmaking process just the result. David Axelrod also expressed this same sentiment, which strikes the heart of the American system—the process does matter. We are a nation of laws not men.
• Obama decided to give $140 billion to the IMF without Congressional approval. Even Congressional liberals objected to this.
• His EPA classified carbon dioxide as a toxic air pollutant and then claimed authority to set emissions standards without Congressional approval. (A toxic pollutant? It’s plant food!)
• Obama’s Department of Justice dismissed a case against the new Black Panther party that had clear video evidence of voter intimidation. Todd Graziano, Member of US Commission on Civil Rights, says there is a culture in the DOJ where they “don’t believe the voting rights laws should ever be enforced against blacks and other minorities.” So much for “equal protection” guaranteed by the Constitution.
• Obama threatened legal action against some companies (such as Humana) for informing their customers about the potential problems with Obamacare. That is the government seeking to criminalize free speech!
• The Obama Administration asked Americans to report their friends for circulating emails critical of ObamaCare. Can you say Big Brother?
• Obama also sent unsolicited emails to federal workers urging them to support ObamaCare. Some workers complained privately about the partisan emails but they feared retribution if they went public.
• Obama has been pushing for “Net Neutrality Rules” to seize control of, or to shut down, portions of the Internet.
Limbaugh shows that Obama often leads by slander and intimidation. For example:
• Tom Lauria, an attorney in the Chrysler bailout negotiations, claimed, “One of my clients was directly threatened by the White House and, in essence, compelled to withdraw his opposition to the deal under the threat of the full force of the White House press corps would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight.” Why was Lauria’s client opposing the deal? Because Obama offered his UAW buddies 50 cents on the dollar for their unsecured debt while offering Lauria’s client only 33 cents on the dollar for their secured debt. This is contrary to fundamental bankruptcy laws. Limbaugh observes, “Here was the President of the United States, again, attacking the reputation and integrity of a private firm merely for asserting its rights in the negotiation…. Obama picks winners and losers based on political allegiance and cronyism—the rule of law be damned.” Even mild-mannered Michael Barone called this “Gangster Government.”
• Obama used civil rights language (“discrimination”) to slander insurance companies for lawfully excluding people with pre-existing conditions. He later inadvertently admitted that’s necessary otherwise patients could game the system and get insurance only after getting sick.
• As if it was his money, Obama threatened to withhold stimulus money from Arizona because Senator Kyl said on TV that the stimulus wasn’t helping the economy.
• Obama abruptly fired Americorps Inspector General Gerald Walpin—who was tasked to ferret out government corruption and to protect whistleblowers—as Walpin was uncovering misuse of a federal grant by an Obama crony. Limbaugh writes of the cover up by the White House after the firing. (It’s alarming that the man tasked to protect government whistleblowers needs whistleblower protection himself from the President of the United States!)
• Obama and others in his Administration have characterized states rights people, pro-lifers, and war veterans as rightwing “extremists” and potential terrorists. (This from a man who in Illinois twice voted against protecting live babies who survived abortion, and who refuses to call real terrorists, like the Fort Hood shooter, what they are.)
• Tea Party people are “tea baggers” and “anti-government” “extremists.” (What a unifier our President is!)
• People who object to homosexual behavior possess “worn arguments and old attitudes.” (Yes, Mr. President, the truth is very old indeed; it’s impervious to hope and change.)
• Doctors are unethical because they do unnecessary surgery to make money. (Obama avoids mentioning unethical behavior by the Democrat-contributing trial lawyers who dramatically drive up health care costs through bogus malpractice lawsuits.)
• Business people are “fat cats” making “immoral” and “obscene” profits (while Obama rakes in $2.5 million in book royalties and pays the Government Motors CEO $9 million).
Limbaugh also documents how Obama:
• Is creating unimaginable debt, and that the average debt under Democrat Congresses is ten times that of Republican Congresses.
• Cooked the books and hid data about the true exploding cost of ObamaCare just a week before the vote.
• Struck a deal that with pharmaceutical companies that lined their pockets but disadvantaged consumers.
• Signed bills that make bailouts and reckless lending more likely.
• Has given nearly a billion dollars to Hamas-ruled Gaza while undermining our ally Israel at almost every turn.
• Continues to weaken our national security by signaling appeasement to Iran and by refusing to acknowledge or confront threats from radical Islam.
• Broke his promises to be transparent and avoided public scrutiny by burying unpopular provisions in other legislation. This includes the reversal of the enormously successful welfare reform and the establishment a super medical bureaucratic board (in effect a “death panel”).
Barack Obama is not the President we’ve been waiting for, but Crimes Against Liberty is the book we’ve been waiting for. If you love America, get the book, read it, and tell your friends before November.
This garbage exists when a Repub is in office and it exists when a Dem is in office. Learn to seek the actual truth and make something out of yourself.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
But it's so quiet you can hear a pin drop.
Meanwhile your wife is being groped by some uneducated goon (man or woman) at the airport in the sake of security and no one here says a thing.
Hypocrites.
did Obama run on overturning the Patriot Act? I don't think so.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
That is one of the biggest overblown "news" stories we've had in a while.. I guess it's a slow time for news after the elections, so something has to take it's place.
But these patdowns will stop... and not because a bunch of people who probably don't fly anyway are complaining, but the airlines are going to take a hit because of the media... On top of bag fees, shitty customer service, etc, the industry doesn't need any more bad press.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Yes he was going to take away our guns and make us all marxist/socialist/nazis. He is rewriting the constitution and bill of rights and he is a muslim who will put prayer rugs in the oval office.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
oh, and don't forget about indoctrining our kids in school, re-instating the fairness act, and his private civil army that he was going to form.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
It would be political suicide, but his past voting record indicates his real stance.
And please don't confuse me with siding with Bush, I thought we'd been through that.
Don't call me a hypocrite, please.
I am opposed to the Patriot Act, and to the escalating war in Afghanistan. So, those are 2 parts of Obama's policies that I disagree with. I want the kids home now! I am pissed that Obama has not brought them home already. As George McGovern said, I am sick and tired of old men sending kids to die.
I don't think everyone is blindly following Obama. I do think though, that I, and others like me, are defending Obama against ludicrous accusations and false criticisms. The rhetoric of hate is alive and well; the propaganda campaign that has been implemented since 11/08 is thriving and has proven to be successful. Bush was labeled a fascist during his presidency; I could write a 500 page book on how Bush and his cronies were fascist. That doesn't make it so, and I don't think he was/is - though I would love to feel that way.
I recently spoke to a PhD student in Political Science in a class we are in together. He is an avowed socialist and he says Obama is nowhere near a socialist. This is just one person's opinion, but it is the opinion of an educated person who spends his life studying political theory. We all have our opinions and our beliefs, but only a small percentage of us have educated, intelligent opinions. And, as I have said before, in American Society beliefs are more important than facts. This makes for a very scary world.
I support aspects of socialism in society. I support social security, medicaid, and medicare. I feel, with my knowledge of socialism, that our healthcare industry, mortgage industry, education system, banking and financial industry would improve and BENEFIT THE PEOPLE under a system that embraced some aspects of socialism. In my opinion, the aforementioned industries should not be DRIVEN BY PROFIT. People will always make their money - there is no reason to destroy the lives of others to do so. Outsourcing wouldn't be the death blow it has been to U.S. jobs and the American Worker. Socialism is NOT a bad, evil word. Stalinism and Communism are - and these two terms are what people are using to define Socialism. It simply is not accurate. But, people are too lazy to acquire knowledge. Speaking is easy; speaking intelligently is not.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
you mean like i did 2 or 3 posts before yours?? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
but how can any obama supporter be "pissed that Obama has not brought them home already. As George McGovern said, I am sick and tired of old men sending kids to die." when he ALWAYS SAID he would escalate the war in afghanistan? he even put on his campaign website that a lot of the troops would only be moved from iraq to afghanistan!
seriously, i've seen people say things like "that wasn't part of the plan!!!" ugggggh, yeah, it always was the plan!
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
In all fairness, your comments about the 2nd Amendment really had nothing to do with the Justin Bieber page you were editing... I mean, I'm as sick of him as the next guy too, but...
Conservatives would HATE Jesus if he suddenly showed up today. He looks like a "terrorist" because he's from the Middle East, and he's a "socialist radical hippy" because he preached equality and loving thy neighbor
Beside the fact that you can't call Huffington Post biased and then expect someone to take a book called "Radical-in-Chief" seriously (Because if HuffPo is biased, then a book called "Radical-in-Chief" sounds REALLY biased), I had to laugh at this sentence:
"Eventually, in his hands, capitalist America could resemble a socialist-inspired Scandinavian welfare state."
Given that Scandanavian countries have a higher standard of living than the U.S. and have better education systems and better healthcare systems, I have to say it doesn't sound too bad.
(ignoring, of course, the fact that it isn't what he's doing at all)
That's when all the "restrict information, shut down Fox News" stuff starts.
Copies of copies of copies of hippies...