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lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
edited November 2010 in A Moving Train
decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?
    we are like the mother in law of the world, we can not fathom not being up in everyone else's business...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?
    we are like the mother in law of the world, we can not fathom not being up in everyone else's business...


    yes and besides, where would we make our money then?
    not gonna happen, as lovely as it sounds
    peace,
    jo

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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    The question was what if, would that satisfy those who oppose US foreign policy.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    StillHere wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?
    we are like the mother in law of the world, we can not fathom not being up in everyone else's business...


    yes and besides, where would we make our money then?
    not gonna happen, as lovely as it sounds

    I agree it will never happen and it matters none who is President. The model of this empire is to be a part or influence in EVERY country in the world.

    The Worldwide Network of US Military Bases:The Global Deployment of US Military Personnel


    U.S. Military Bases = Global Empire

    A good book on this military empire is Chalmers Johnson's...The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    lukin2006 wrote:
    The question was what if, would that satisfy those who oppose US foreign policy.

    no, imo it would not satisfy those who oppose us foreign policy, because there are so many factions involved, and while many oppose all foreign involvement, many more oppose only the foreign involvement that does not promote, or, interferes with, their personal or corporate agenda.

    As for myself, with no agenda other than peace, i do believe that we should do exactly what you have suggested.

    But then questions arise as to the world view on our vulnerability, etc., which is a secondary to removing our military from foreign bases.

    I don't think that it is as simple as you propose. If only it were.
    peace,
    jo

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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?

    You can't be the world's super power being neutral.
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?

    That's a very good question. There would be a lot of consequences to doing such a thing.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    the banking institutions have probably done more to spread this empire than the military, although they wouldn't have had quite as much leverage were it not for the threat of force.



    bringing the troops home would be a start.



    i wouldn't be 'satisfied' but it would be a start.
  • TriumphantAngelTriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    it's a start yes but i'd never be satisfied unless the US paid reparations for wars and conflicts they started and rebuilt what they have destroyed.

    ending support for Israel's racist Zionist regime would be a must too.

    Let me ask you one question
    Is your money that good
    Will it buy you forgiveness
    Do you think that it could
    I think you will find
    When your death takes its toll
    All the money you made
    Will never buy back your soul.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    it would be great!! ... although what would transpire would be that the US would no longer be the economic superpower that it is now ... without US foreign policy intervention ... oil companies, engineering companies, and all the subsidiaries would have no market presence ...

    anyone who thinks the US are protecting anyone out there is delusional - the glorified military is a pawn for large US corporations ...
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?

    I believe it actually WILL happen, but not out of good will (I wish it would!), but out of bankruptcy. All empires come to an end when they over-extend themselves. The assholes that run this country are putting it on the fast-track for this to happen.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    markin ball wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?

    That's a very good question. There would be a lot of consequences to doing such a thing.

    seems it would leave us more open to terrorism attacks, government is big business ..but if that were to be done would we need such a large government ? also if such a thing were ever to happen I think we would still need a military as strong as we have today...nothing says love like don't f**k the us. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?

    I believe it actually WILL happen, but not out of good will (I wish it would!), but out of bankruptcy. All empires come to an end when they over-extend themselves. The assholes that run this country are putting it on the fast-track for this to happen.

    I agree; when it happens, it won't be intentional, it'll be because of bankruptcy. But it'll probably be for the best.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Godfather. wrote:
    markin ball wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?

    That's a very good question. There would be a lot of consequences to doing such a thing.

    seems it would leave us more open to terrorism attacks, government is big business ..but if that were to be done would we need such a large government ? also if such a thing were ever to happen I think we would still need a military as strong as we have today...nothing says love like don't f**k the us. :lol:

    Godfather.

    I think you can still have a powerful military, but by bringing the troops homes it would free the military up for participating in more positive actions.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Jeanwah wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?

    I believe it actually WILL happen, but not out of good will (I wish it would!), but out of bankruptcy. All empires come to an end when they over-extend themselves. The assholes that run this country are putting it on the fast-track for this to happen.

    I agree; when it happens, it won't be intentional, it'll be because of bankruptcy. But it'll probably be for the best.

    If your government keeps spending the way they are bankruptcy is inevitable.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    markin ball wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    decided to declare herself a neutral country, close all foreign military bases, bring all troops homes. No longer getting involved or taking sides in future disputes? Would this satisfy those who oppose the US foreign policy? Thoughts? Discussion?

    That's a very good question. There would be a lot of consequences to doing such a thing.

    Yes, interesting question.

    One consequence would be that someone else would immediately step up and fill the gap. If anyone thinks that all the countries in the world would live in peace and prosperity in some kind of utopia with each other if only the US wasn't trying to get involved in everything then they are more delusional than the people who think the US does no wrong.

    Personally, I think we should close up shop in as many places as possible while still maintaining a reasonable level of national security. And by reasonable level of national security I mean remembering that we have a gigantic military and enough nukes to blow up the earth 1000 times so maybe we don't need to have a presence in every corner of the earth.

    But as others have mentioned, easier said then done when you start thinking about all the money at stake.
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  • cajunkiwicajunkiwi Posts: 984
    Godfather. wrote:
    seems it would leave us more open to terrorism attacks, government is big business ..but if that were to be done would we need such a large government ? also if such a thing were ever to happen I think we would still need a military as strong as we have today...nothing says love like don't f**k the us. :lol:

    Godfather.

    I think it would reduce the odds of a terrorist attack. Al Qaeda has maintained from day one that they're opposed to the USA interfering in the Middle East. If there are no troops overseas, then the odds of someone putting explosive ink cartridges on a plane plummets.

    That being said, there's also an ethical obligation to help your fellow man out in a time of need. At the end of the day, we're all sharing the same planet and we're all in this together, so if someone's being picked on unjustly then I don't have a problem with stepping up to help. However, I don't think that's what the US is doing - as evidenced by the number of times it ignores a problem if the nations involved don't have any oil. I don't think current military intervention overseas is based strictly on sticking up for the little guy.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
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