too bad for the review, but I think they got it right
the future looks bright for the young drivers and F1
1996: Toronto 2003: St. Paul 2005: Thunder Bay 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa 2009: Chicago I, Chicago II 2010: Boston 2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg 2012: Missoula 2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo 2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee 2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II 2022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II 2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
Heck of a race by Max. Yes, finally an exciting race ... I was 99% certain F1 would shoot themselves in the foot again by giving a penalty. I don't think it was a penalty but Leclerc should not have let himself into that position in the first place. He had a 5 second lead with 10 laps left and nerves / lack of experience cost him the win, not that pass. He gave that huge lead up way too fast.
Heck of a race by Max. Yes, finally an exciting race ... I was 99% certain F1 would shoot themselves in the foot again by giving a penalty. I don't think it was a penalty but Leclerc should not have let himself into that position in the first place. He had a 5 second lead with 10 laps left and nerves / lack of experience cost him the win, not that pass. He gave that huge lead up way too fast.
I disagree on the Leclerc front, I don't think nerves had anything to do with it (see his fight back on Verstappen's first pass attempt). The RBR was a lot faster than the Ferrari on those tires (Verstappen's were also fresher). I read that they put used hard tires on Leclerc at his stop but I can't find actual confirmation of that.
Another great race.... A little bit of everything. Could this be the beginning of the end for Seb at Ferrari?
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Yet another superfantastic race!!!!! not a Seb fan but good for him. nice to see some fresh faces in the mix
1996: Toronto 2003: St. Paul 2005: Thunder Bay 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa 2009: Chicago I, Chicago II 2010: Boston 2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg 2012: Missoula 2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo 2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee 2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II 2022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II 2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
any race that no mercedes ends up on the podium is a good race ... not that I have anything against mercedes other then they are the video game equivalent of cheat mode settings that make for generally boring races
I agree on both counts a dry race would have probably been a one/two for Mercedes, maybe Max splitting them was the same the year Braun ran away with it and Button was champ. Those cars had something ahead of their time or borderline illegal
1996: Toronto 2003: St. Paul 2005: Thunder Bay 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa 2009: Chicago I, Chicago II 2010: Boston 2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg 2012: Missoula 2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo 2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee 2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II 2022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II 2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
Hmmm, Albon gets promoted to Red Bull, thought it would have been Kvyat
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Vettle almost committed suicide in frustration after spinning out and then burning out into oncoming traffic reentering the track. The pressure is cracking him ... not a good look in your bosses hometown even though Ferrari has a long, long history of sending young drivers to fiery deaths
I really like the Monza. Just a beautiful historic track with a great layout of wide open straights and turns meant for passing through the Italy forest
F1 is getting exciting again. The last 4 or 5 races have been great! Lots of new talent rising. Now, if only they could make all the cars a little more equal....
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I'm just watching the replay ... I read there was some controversy about Ferrari pitting (boxing? ) ... Leclerc actually had a 0.6 sec advantage in the pits over Vettel. Leclerc needs to learn that racing sometimes involves actual racing and not trying to be a video game sim clockwork. Vettel earned that win.
I'm just watching the replay ... I read there was some controversy about Ferrari pitting (boxing? ) ... Leclerc actually had a 0.6 sec advantage in the pits over Vettel. Leclerc needs to learn that racing sometimes involves actual racing and not trying to be a video game sim clockwork. Vettel earned that win.
I think there are a few unverified quotes or stats out there, like they asked Leclerc if he wanted to pit and he said no, so they brought Seb in, etc. Either way, Leclerc will be fine, team will be fine for next race. Great drive from Vettel.
Meh, here is my beef. The top 6 cars are driving slow to conserve their tires and nobody from 6th back can catch them! Needs to be more competitive throughout the field. Or have tiers. Really Williams has no business being in F1 at this point maybe bring back refueling and different tire manufacturers and reduce the communication from the pits and put more of an onus on the driver
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It appears that Mercedes has both the engineering advantage and common sense advantage over Ferrari. Maybe Ferrari should focus on having their drivers racing instead of whatever backwards psychology they are cooking up.
Italian confusion versus German precision. Leclerc is a rookie and needs to keep his mouth shut. Vettel is a four time world champion. He should not have to concede anything to Leclerc if he is ahead fair and square. The kid is fast but show some class.
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too bad for the review, but I think they got it right
the future looks bright for the young drivers and F1
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
not a Seb fan but good for him.
nice to see some fresh faces in the mix
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
a dry race would have probably been a one/two for Mercedes, maybe Max splitting them
was the same the year Braun ran away with it and Button was champ. Those cars had something ahead of their time or borderline illegal
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
Either way, Leclerc will be fine, team will be fine for next race. Great drive from Vettel.
maybe bring back refueling and different tire manufacturers and reduce the communication from the pits and put more of an onus on the driver
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II