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US ranked 33rd in health care

CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
edited November 2010 in A Moving Train
according to the world health organization, which ranks things like infant mortality, and longetivity.





isn't the US the richest country in the world? sure we have the best care in the world, people come from all over of the world to be treated in the US, provided they can pay for it. and provided we can pay for it.

but for the majority that isnt' realistic. should the goal be to save as many lives as possible? isn't that what universal health care does in most european countries? shouldn't that be the goal in the US?



sure the US is good at taking lives.....its spends as much as the next 27 countries (england china russia saudi arabia israel) on its violence....why is saving lives such a taboo?


why not spend as much as the next 27 countries on health care? what's wrong with saving lives?
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Commy wrote:
    according to the world health organization, which ranks things like infant mortality, and longetivity.

    isn't the US the richest country in the world? sure we have the best care in the world, people come from all over of the world to be treated in the US, provided they can pay for it. and provided we can pay for it.

    but for the majority that isnt' realistic. should the goal be to save as many lives as possible? isn't that what universal health care does in most european countries? shouldn't that be the goal in the US?



    sure the US is good at taking lives.....its spends as much as the next 27 countries (england china russia saudi arabia israel) on its violence....why is saving lives such a taboo?


    why not spend as much as the next 27 countries on health care? what's wrong with saving lives?

    This communist bullshit makes me sick!
    The U.S is the greatest country in the world!
    Love it or leave it!
    The U.S is no place for this commie health care bullshit!
    Why should the average American pay for someone else's health care! The hardworking people of America have more important things to spend their tax dollars on, such as fighting evil-doers in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and Palestine, e.t.c.
    If you don't like it then you can always move to Iran or Cuba!!












































    *Joking* :lol:
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    according to the world health organization, which ranks things like infant mortality, and longetivity.

    isn't the US the richest country in the world? sure we have the best care in the world, people come from all over of the world to be treated in the US, provided they can pay for it. and provided we can pay for it.

    but for the majority that isnt' realistic. should the goal be to save as many lives as possible? isn't that what universal health care does in most european countries? shouldn't that be the goal in the US?



    sure the US is good at taking lives.....its spends as much as the next 27 countries (england china russia saudi arabia israel) on its violence....why is saving lives such a taboo?


    why not spend as much as the next 27 countries on health care? what's wrong with saving lives?

    This communist bullshit makes me sick!
    The U.S is the greatest country in the world!
    Love it or leave it!
    The U.S is no place for this commie health care bullshit!
    Why should the average American pay for someone else's health care! The hardworking people of America have more important things to spend their tax dollars on, such as fighting evil-doers in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and Palestine, e.t.c.
    If you don't like it then you can always move to Iran or Cuba!!














































    *Joking* :lol:


    lol. you sounded like a tea bagger. always willing to criticize the gays....taxes....immigrants....government spending....etc.

    and i might see that and i might say "the US ranks 30th in health care int eh world" just as a conversation piece, to keep the theme they have started going.....

    which leads too..

    "get the fuck out if you doin't like it. this is the greatest country on earth. fuck you you fucking fag if you want to question it."


    so. just to clarify.. its ok for them to question policy, but when i do it i need to "get the fuck out"?


    they hate immigration taxes obama socialism, abortion, are por death penalty.....all that shit is fine to say but when i say "hey, there is a direct correlation between US gov't aid and human rights abuses.....



    that's my queue to get the fuck out of the country. according to the teabaggers.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Because if the USA provided healthcare you'd be ranked #1 for socialism!
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    haffajappa wrote:
    Because if the USA provided healthcare you'd be ranked #1 for socialism!
    socialism is so awesome. we can only hope obama will be a socialist.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Commy wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    Because if the USA provided healthcare you'd be ranked #1 for socialism!
    socialism is so awesome. we can only hope obama will be a socialist.
    he will! i mean is!
    all muslims are marxists.
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    haffajappa wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    Because if the USA provided healthcare you'd be ranked #1 for socialism!
    socialism is so awesome. we can only hope obama will be a socialist.
    he will! i mean is!
    all muslims are marxists.
    and nazis. and gay,
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    What are the top Ten countries?
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    aerial wrote:
    What are the top Ten countries?

    You used a computer to type this comment, so why don't you use that computer to find out the answer to your question?
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    What are the top Ten countries?

    You used a computer to type this comment, so why don't you use that computer to find out the answer to your question?


    According to some on here information on the internet is not true...
    Maybe I should have asked commy "what is your source"?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    83rd percentile overall out of 193 countries.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    What are the top Ten countries?

    You used a computer to type this comment, so why don't you use that computer to find out the answer to your question?
    I went to the W.H.O.'s website and couldn't find an overall ranking. There is a sections that breaks down many factors in the 2010 annual report, but I did not see any overall rankings that combined their nine categories for an overall list. Perhaps it is there, but I couldn't find it.

    I would be interested to see if the W.H.O. did release a list or if it was interpolated by outside parties.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    The WHO - nothing to do with mods and parkas - stopped making health care rankings ten years ago because the task was too arduous and complex. In the 2000 rankings the US came 37th. France came first.

    The WSJ, friend of the insurance man, naturally argues that the WHO's assessment criteria is eccentric:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125608054324397621.html

    The New England Journal is a bit more inclined to look at the stats and work out that whatever the case, "U.S. performance not only is poor at any given moment but also is improving much more slowly than that of other countries over time. These observations and the reflections they should trigger are made possible only by careful comparative quantification of various facets of health care systems."

    http://healthpolicyandreform.nejm.org/?p=2610


    Here's something more recent, though, from the Commonwealth Fund website:

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content ... anking.png

    http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content ... pdate.aspx
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
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  • TriumphantAngelTriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    there was a thread a little while ago with some rankings of how various countries rated in regards to health, education etc. the US was ranked at 26 for health. a lot of the countries ranked higher have socialized health care.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/15/inte ... tries.html
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    America's health care system is second only to Japan, Canada, Sweden, Great Britain, well...all of Europe. But you can thank your lucky stars we don't live in Paraguay!

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  • Electric_DeltaElectric_Delta Posts: 977
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    What are the top Ten countries?

    You used a computer to type this comment, so why don't you use that computer to find out the answer to your question?

    Why so rude?
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    What are the top Ten countries?

    You used a computer to type this comment, so why don't you use that computer to find out the answer to your question?

    Why so rude?
    she has said the same thing to people on here several times.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    What are the top Ten countries?

    You used a computer to type this comment, so why don't you use that computer to find out the answer to your question?

    Why so rude?

    It wasn't rude. That's just you trying to stir shit up. Nice try.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Yes that was rude...Gimme what the hell are taking about....When the hell have I ever asked that question?
    How can someone post something like that and not offer the rest of the information....was it in context?
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  • Electric_DeltaElectric_Delta Posts: 977
    edited November 2010
    Why so rude?[/quote]

    It wasn't rude. That's just you trying to stir shit up. Nice try.[/quote]


    No, I sincerely was not. I'm not going to pick on you or anyone else just because of some of our past disagreements. I was just asking a question.

    In fact, I even apologize if it upset you. However, it came across as harsh...and unnecessary.
    Post edited by Electric_Delta on
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i'd like to know the source as well ... when i google this .. it only brings up a really old article ...

    i would be shocked if the US ranked 33rd in providing health care ... at least for those who can afford it or have insurance ...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    polaris_x wrote:
    i'd like to know the source as well ... when i google this .. it only brings up a really old article ...

    i would be shocked if the US ranked 33rd in providing health care ... at least for those who can afford it or have insurance ...
    Someone on the first page stated the WHO released the figures in 2000 but they pulled the figures rather quickly and stopped doing it because it there was a lot of scrutiny on the data, which the WHO acknowledged. The WHO does have pretty in-depth stats for a multitude of categories but they don't try to determine an "overall ranking" anymore.
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