Can Obama Emulate Reagan and Clinton -- and FDR in 2012?

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edited November 2010 in A Moving Train
Can Obama Emulate Reagan and Clinton -- and FDR in 2012?....or is it A too ate President Obama?
As a biographer of Ronald Reagan, I've been asked if Barack Obama can recover from the catastrophe of the midterm elections to win a second term, as President Reagan did in 1984 when he carried every state except Minnesota, plus the District of Columbia. In a post-election press conference after the Republicans won the House last week, Obama took note of what Reagan had done and also of the comeback by President Bill Clinton, who was reelected in 1996 two years after the GOP captured the House for the first time in 46 years. Obama might also have mentioned the president with whom he claims the greatest affinity, Franklin D. Roosevelt, who two years after significant midterm reversals in 1938 won an unprecedented third term in 1940.
We learned in school that a valid analogy is a comparison in which the essential similarities outweigh the essential differences. Do any of these comparisons measure up?

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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Depends on who runs against him, if it is Palin he will win.

    I personally would love to see an Obama vs Ron Paul debate. I'd ppv it.
  • he has been emulating them. he should have been emulating fdr. the biggest failure of obama beyond the failure to end the wars, has been his complete disreguard for the economic situation. he should have set up a series of New Deal type programs, new versions of the TVA and whatnot, and put millions of people to work. Instead he bailed out the banks and major corporations.
    Obama is a failure of a president. as ignorant and tone deaf to the pleas of the people as the previous resident of 1600 penn ave was.

    obama blew it. but thats what you get for believing a millionaire president can solve the worlds problems.

    one of the greatest delusions in history was the idea that obama was going to be anything other than what he is, a centrist at best, and a conservative democrat as worst.
  • ron paul would run circles around him. ron paul is more left wing and radical than obama could ever dream to be. An indepedent who is against the patriot act and advocates bringing the troops home now? thats mr paul
  • ron paul would run circles around him. ron paul is more left wing and radical than obama could ever dream to be. An indepedent who is against the patriot act and advocates bringing the troops home now? thats mr paul
    i'm not on the same page as him with all of everything he belives in but some of his top issues i definitely am.

    can't say the same for his son though. not a fan at all.
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    unsung wrote:
    Depends on who runs against him, if it is Palin he will win.

    I personally would love to see an Obama vs Ron Paul debate. I'd ppv it.

    You know that lame old argument 'if you dont like the way things are going in the US, then leave"?
    Honestly, if I see a debate between Obama and Palin in 2011, i'm fuckin outta here.
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  • BrianGBrianG Posts: 53
    seriously, you think Palin would have been worse than this president? I think our economy right now would be better with just about anyone else in the white house for the last two years. But that's what happens when the country votes for "hope and change" without any serious inquiry into the achievements, experience, expertise or complete lack thereof, of the person for whom you are voting. Face it people, the country put a man in the white house who has never run any business therefore has no idea what it takes to run a business, a man who had served less than 1/2 of a term in the U.S. Senate. That's it. A man who may be intelligent in a "university professor" sort of way, but who has no practical real world skills nor any real experience in Washington. But the guy had a gifted tongue and of course he had the benefit of "not being george w bush". People who rise to power on the gift of their oratory have often been among the worst of leaders. They have the ability to deceive and mislead those who they so eloquently convince to follow them.

    2012 will be an interesting year. Let's hope we have spirited debate on the issues instead of generic 'campaign speak', don't hold your breath though. This president will be in campaign mode for the better part of the next 24 months now.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    BrianG wrote:
    seriously, you think Palin would have been worse than this president?

    yes.

    she thinks being close to russia somehow gives here foreign policy experience. that's not the type of person i want with a finger on the nuke button.
    I think our economy right now would be better with just about anyone else in the white house for the last two years. But that's what happens when the country votes for "hope and change" without any serious inquiry into the achievements, experience, expertise or complete lack thereof, of the person for whom you are voting.
    obama is a typical politician, he is no exception. its like george bush part 1's famous election speech quote, "read my lips, there will be no new taxes." politicians lie, its their calling.


    Face it people, the country put a man in the white house who has never run any business therefore has no idea what it takes to run a business, a man who had served less than 1/2 of a term in the U.S. Senate. That's it. A man who may be intelligent in a "university professor" sort of way, but who has no practical real world skills nor any real experience in Washington.
    yes. institutions that spend their time figuring shit out, what do they know?


    and running a business as a prerequisite for office? fuck that. the business party runs, has run, will run washington. given a choice i would vote for someone to challenge that idea, to, for a change, not put selfishness and personal gain ahead of the community, country. unfortunately it is not obama. he has been a typical militant capitalist, since day one. neither is it palin or whatever the republicans come up with.



    But the guy had a gifted tongue and of course he had the benefit of "not being george w bush". People who rise to power on the gift of their oratory have often been among the worst of leaders. They have the ability to deceive and mislead those who they so eloquently convince to follow them.

    2012 will be an interesting year. Let's hope we have spirited debate on the issues instead of generic 'campaign speak', don't hold your breath though. This president will be in campaign mode for the better part of the next 24 months now.


    acting to renew your power, rather than doing wha'ts right, that is a fundamental problem with today's government. few politicians are above this.






    personally, if he runs, i will vote for ron paul for president, my support for his foreign policy far outweighs any problems i have with his domestic policy.
  • Commy wrote:
    personally, if he runs, i will vote for ron paul for president, my support for his foreign policy far outweighs any problems i have with his domestic policy.

    I can't understand why more modern-day liberals do not see this exactly as you do.
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