for the say, 3 of us who are interested in canadian politics

haffajappa

GOOD-BYE
GORDON
CAMPBELL
!!!!

Yes, some changes happened north of the border as well..
Gordo resigned... didn't do it when he was arrested for drunk driving... finally took an HST and BC Rail scandal to do it...

SO LONG, GORDO!
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:

lukin2006

Why couldn't we get that lucky in Ontario?

keeponrockin

lukin2006 wrote:

Why couldn't we get that lucky in Ontario?

*like*

MrMerkinball

lukin2006 wrote:

Why couldn't we get that lucky in Ontario?

+1000

It's a matter of time!

polaris_x

question is ... will this be enough for the libs to remain in power there!?? ...

cincybearcat

You overestimated the # of people that care I think.

fife

lukin2006 wrote:

Why couldn't we get that lucky in Ontario?

because most people in Ontario just take it and don't complain.

lukin2006

fife wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Why couldn't we get that lucky in Ontario?

because most people in Ontario just take it and don't complain.

People complain plenty, we just have to get out next October and vote this train wreck of a government out. Unfortunately Mr. Hudak if elected will have one hell of a mess to fix, Our economy here in the southern part of the province is just devastated.

polaris_x

lukin2006 wrote:

People complain plenty, we just have to get out next October and vote this train wreck of a government out. Unfortunately Mr. Hudak if elected will have one hell of a mess to fix, Our economy here in the southern part of the province is just devastated.

it's no different than when the conservatives left office ... the only difference is that the libs inherited a huge defecit with the economy on the shits ...

lukin2006

polaris_x wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

People complain plenty, we just have to get out next October and vote this train wreck of a government out. Unfortunately Mr. Hudak if elected will have one hell of a mess to fix, Our economy here in the southern part of the province is just devastated.

it's no different than when the conservatives left office ... the only difference is that the libs inherited a huge defecit with the economy on the shits ...

I agree, but 5 billion vs. 27 billion, big difference. The tories also inherited a huge deficit with a poor economy. I don't agree with deficit spending no matter who is in power, all these deficit do is limit what future governments can do. And I can guarantee you that it's society most vulnerable that pay for these deficits.

polaris_x

lukin2006 wrote:

I agree, but 5 billion vs. 27 billion, big difference. The tories also inherited a huge deficit with a poor economy. I don't agree with deficit spending no matter who is in power, all these deficit do is limit what future governments can do. And I can guarantee you that it's society most vulnerable that pay for these deficits.

the tories took a booming economy and still managed to create a defecit ... in any case - i'm not sure on your defecit spending point ... i mean ... society's most vulnerable require services ... and if those services get cut because we do not want to enter into a defecit - well, there are consequences with the vulnerable becoming even more vulnerable ...

either way - similar to other threads of similar nature ... we can probably agree that we want an efficient gov't ... wasteful spending has to stop ...

lukin2006

polaris_x wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I agree, but 5 billion vs. 27 billion, big difference. The tories also inherited a huge deficit with a poor economy. I don't agree with deficit spending no matter who is in power, all these deficit do is limit what future governments can do. And I can guarantee you that it's society most vulnerable that pay for these deficits.

the tories took a booming economy and still managed to create a defecit ... in any case - i'm not sure on your defecit spending point ... i mean ... society's most vulnerable require services ... and if those services get cut because we do not want to enter into a defecit - well, there are consequences with the vulnerable becoming even more vulnerable ...

either way - similar to other threads of similar nature ... we can probably agree that we want an efficient gov't ... wasteful spending has to stop ...

I'll clarify, eventually the government has to cut back and eliminate those deficits and they usually do this by cutting services and in order to get those services people are then required to pay for those services (ie...eye doctors, chroprators), it's usually the people with the least that can not afford these services.

polaris_x

lukin2006 wrote:

I'll clarify, eventually the government has to cut back and eliminate those deficits and they usually do this by cutting services and in order to get those services people are then required to pay for those services (ie...eye doctors, chroprators), it's usually the people with the least that can not afford these services.

or they can raise taxes ...

Drowned Out

I was going to ask if any province has every actually liked a premier....
Then I remembered our previous premiers popularity. Ralph Klein is the patron saint of redneck Albertans....Not for his politics...but for being one of us....drunkenly stumbling into a shelter, berating and throwing change at homeless people was a savvy political move in this province :roll:

lukin2006

polaris_x wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I'll clarify, eventually the government has to cut back and eliminate those deficits and they usually do this by cutting services and in order to get those services people are then required to pay for those services (ie...eye doctors, chroprators), it's usually the people with the least that can not afford these services.

or they can raise taxes ...

they can...then people have less money to spend and that leads to job loss. But why in Ontario did McGuilty have to raise taxes, revenue was up over 20 billion in his first 6 years of office, maybe he should learn to control spending, you can't keep going to the taxpayer. The taxpayers in Ontario don't have anything to give, he screwed himself because he bought off all the public sector unions for the last 7 years, now those union will end up paying by getting a wage freeze. By the way I am a member of one of those unions, so I see from the inside what's gone on, and I don't support my union, people are right when they say the public sector was exempt from this recession. I could write about about the inefficiencies in the public sector I work. I agree we both want an efficient well run government, well never get it until they clean out the the inefficiencies in the layers and layers of government that has been created over the last 7 years.

polaris_x

lukin2006 wrote:

they can...then people have less money to spend and that leads to job loss. But why in Ontario did McGuilty have to raise taxes, revenue was up over 20 billion in his first 6 years of office, maybe he should learn to control spending, you can't keep going to the taxpayer. The taxpayers in Ontario don't have anything to give, he screwed himself because he bought off all the public sector unions for the last 7 years, now those union will end up paying by getting a wage freeze. By the way I am a member of one of those unions, so I see from the inside what's gone on, and I don't support my union, people are right when they say the public sector was exempt from this recession. I could write about about the inefficiencies in the public sector I work. I agree we both want an efficient well run government, well never get it until they clean out the the inefficiencies in the layers and layers of government that has been created over the last 7 years.

7 years!?? ... this is what gets me ... i definitely don't think mcguinty has done a great job but why is it that people will always forget what previous gov'ts did!? ... inefficiencies in the public sector or not tied to one gov't or another ... also, the whole raise taxes = less spending = less jobs is some myth that has like no merit whatsoever ...

lukin2006

OLG spending $12,000 per week on accountant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.680news.com/news/local/artic ... accountant

The person responsible for this decision should be terminated. The minister in charge should be fired as well.

That's the only way waste will be eliminated is when people understand that their job is in jeopardy.

haffajappa

polaris_x wrote:

question is ... will this be enough for the libs to remain in power there!?? ...

from what i heard on the news radio today, apparently a poll indicated that a lot of people will now vote liberal again.

polaris_x

haffajappa wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

question is ... will this be enough for the libs to remain in power there!?? ...

from what i heard on the news radio today, apparently a poll indicated that a lot of people will now vote liberal again.

interesting ... without knowing who the next leader is!? ... that seems strange ... doesn't seem like HST is going anywhere either!? ...

lukin2006

Danny Williams leaving politics.

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/ ... algaryHome


Very popular politician.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... step-down/

haffajappa

i heard the cookie monster got fired
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DxeCK5Ne_Q