Drunk/speeding/texting/red running = DEATH
Hugh Freaking Dillon
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A 17 year old Winnipeg girl has been charged following a horrific crash early Sunday morning, 2:50 am. She was driving approximately 100 km/h, drunk, while texting, and ran a red light. She t-boned another car carrying 5 people, all recent high school graduates, killing two of them (one immediately, the other a day later). A third is in critical condition.
She was drunk. Under age. Speeding (the limit there is 70 km/h). Texting (the police found the phone in mid-text at the crime scene), and she ran a red light.
Texting/talking on a cell while driving was very recently outlawed in Manitoba. I think the justice system needs to make a swift and harsh example of this young lady, to send a good and hard message, especially with the upcoming drinking and driving season.
Incredibly, the father of one of the victims says he doesn't blame the accused 100%, he blames society partially for what happened. I mean, I see his point, we all have done things like this, but I guess the difference is they haven't ended up in such tragedy. If it wasn't texting, it would have been chowing down a Whopper. Yes, I have too. My parents' generation used drink and drive like it was nobody's business.
But when it ends up like this, the punishment needs to be dealt. Don't give her probation. Give her some hard time a BANNED from EVER DRIVING AGAIN. Sadly, she'll probably get probation or something else preposterous.
She was drunk. Under age. Speeding (the limit there is 70 km/h). Texting (the police found the phone in mid-text at the crime scene), and she ran a red light.
Texting/talking on a cell while driving was very recently outlawed in Manitoba. I think the justice system needs to make a swift and harsh example of this young lady, to send a good and hard message, especially with the upcoming drinking and driving season.
Incredibly, the father of one of the victims says he doesn't blame the accused 100%, he blames society partially for what happened. I mean, I see his point, we all have done things like this, but I guess the difference is they haven't ended up in such tragedy. If it wasn't texting, it would have been chowing down a Whopper. Yes, I have too. My parents' generation used drink and drive like it was nobody's business.
But when it ends up like this, the punishment needs to be dealt. Don't give her probation. Give her some hard time a BANNED from EVER DRIVING AGAIN. Sadly, she'll probably get probation or something else preposterous.
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If it wasn't texting, it would have been chowing down a Whopper. Yes, I have too. My parents' generation used drink and drive like it was nobody's business.
But when it ends up like this, the punishment needs to be dealt. Don't give her probation. Give her some hard time a BANNED from EVER DRIVING AGAIN. Sadly, she'll probably get probation or something else preposterous.[/quote]
In Florida in the early 80's, bars and liquor stores had drive through windows. Drive up, get your booze, ice, cups, everything needed for a party on wheels
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Why blame society? This girl knew the 'rules' of society - she chose to break them. She is 100% to blame for the deaths of the two young people, the pain and the trauma for the other 3 and the families of all the kids. No excuse.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Kind of like the death penalty - theoretically it should be a perfect deterrent, but it doesn't really work because at the end of the day criminals think they won't get caught. I'd like to think a lifetime driving ban would make a difference, but the skeptic in me agrees with you.
they still have those in Ohio. Nothing wrong with a drive thru carry out.
They should have a finger removed from both hands for each offense. When they start lopping off your digits, you'll stop texting and driving.
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right on, you cannot legislate for stupid choices(as people make them everyday), but you can punish them
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There was nothing, it seemed, that Amutha Subramaniam could not give.
She gave her time, tirelessly volunteering as a greeter, host and youth ambassador at Folklorama's Tamil pavilion. She gave her art, dancing with this beautiful light in the eyes; she was one of the India School of Dance's youngest graduates.
And she gave her heart back to that school, teaching dance even as she started studying business at the University of Manitoba. She'd devise gleeful games for the kids to play. She had "a sense of humour unlike anything I've ever known," Amutha's only sister Anita Subramaniam, 25, said on Wednesday.
Amutha would be playing those games still. But early Sunday morning, on the way home from a night out with four inseparable friends, an alleged drunk driver crashed into the car she was riding in at the corner of St. Mary's Road and Bishop Grandin Boulevard.
Subramaniam, 17, and friend Senhit Mehari, 19, died. A third passenger is still in critical condition, and two others were injured. They were only minutes from home. "How do you drive past that intersection now?" Anita said, four days after the tragedy.
The headline seemed all too senseless; so, too, the loss of a life so bright. Amutha had just graduated from Dakota Collegiate; in her cap-and-gown photo, her smile still beams. "She's a fearless girl," Anita said. "I would do anything for her. She taught us a lot of things. And she's continuing to teach us a lot of things."
In the hours and days after the crash that stole the life of the "light of the family," the close-knit Subramaniams survived a shock few can imagine but a few, sometimes, must.
There was the storm of media attention, colliding against a family begging for privacy while Amutha's father raced home from a business trip to India. Then there was the question of the 17-year-old driver facing serious charges, including impaired driving causing death. "I don't think our family hates her," Anita said.
The accused is a teen who, until Sunday, probably expected to live a normal life, Anita added. And the family wonders why, in the days after the crash, the media focused more on the victims than on the "society problems" that led to an underage girl allegedly getting alcohol and getting behind the wheel.
"The question is how and why it happened... I don't think she's the only one to blame," Anita said. "We are praying for her. This is not something you can recover from."
Nor for the Subramaniams, though there is some solace in the fact that when the accident came, Amutha was with her joy. The five young women were "very committed to each other," Anita said. "It is very sad. At the same time, they were together."
I can't say for sure, but if a drunk driver killed my sibling/daughter/wife/parent I'd be calling for their head, not blaming society. The families of these victims have much cooler heads than I would. I commend them for that.
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