THE WALKING DEAD...and all things zombie

Dr. Delight

Is it me or is the writing this year really bad? The dialogue is laughable.
The higher ups desperately needs to call Frank Darabont back and offer him a blank check to come back and work on this show.

DewieCox

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

I just don't think the character translates to tv as well.

You have to be able to separate the show from the comic, if you can't then the show will never live up to expectations.

I understand and LIKE that the comic is different from the show. I like that it's not story for story.

Tell that to the show runners then. I've never read the comics, but thumbed through some summaries and looked at a few pivotal scenes. I think the problem is they're trying to make Negan too much like the comics, minus the liberal language obviously.


I agree that the writing has gone downhill, but it has mostly to do with pacing to me, though there have been some majorly idiotic lines. They try to make whole episodes out of really boring stuff.

Another thing, the soundtrack is noticeably bad, with really out of place styles and melodies. It's not something that I generally notice, And I think that is typically the aim of the composers, to support the scenes without really sticking out.

Vitalogensia

I'm definitely cheering for the zombies at this point. I'm hoping for a massive war between however many factions, just to be overtaken by an onslaught of zombies, show ends, I give a standing ovation.

tempo_n_groove

DewieCox said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

I just don't think the character translates to tv as well.

You have to be able to separate the show from the comic, if you can't then the show will never live up to expectations.

I understand and LIKE that the comic is different from the show. I like that it's not story for story.

Tell that to the show runners then. I've never read the comics, but thumbed through some summaries and looked at a few pivotal scenes. I think the problem is they're trying to make Negan too much like the comics, minus the liberal language obviously.


I agree that the writing has gone downhill, but it has mostly to do with pacing to me, though there have been some majorly idiotic lines. They try to make whole episodes out of really boring stuff.

Another thing, the soundtrack is noticeably bad, with really out of place styles and melodies. It's not something that I generally notice, And I think that is typically the aim of the composers, to support the scenes without really sticking out.

I couldn't agree more about the music. I would have to say that it's intentional. No way you can be that bad at scoring a show...

Nami

a hit or miss tonight? shit needs to pick up tonight

Nami

a miss..... of course Eugene will be the hero down the road.

bobby dazzlers

Loved it. The more they show us without Rick and crew the better.
Compared with last weeks episode this was off the charts amazing!!!

rival.

meh.

soooooo is eugene just being his typically cowardly lion self and really pledging alliance to negan? or is he just playing his angles and lying to everyone waiting for his moment to get back at negan or get saved by rick and co.? tough to tell, eh?

and what video game was he playing?

Indifference71

That was ok. It was pretty obvious what the 2 wives were up to when they asked him to make the pills.

I'm guessing there will be a couple more standalone type episodes like this so they can draw out this half season as much as possible before the inevitable fight starts with the saviors. Pretty standard formula for this show.

DewieCox

The battle with the saviors is more likely to be next seasons finale than this one. This season will end with the Alexandrians, Hilltop and the UpUpUps deciding to join together to fight.

Nami

please bring back zombies.... to devote a show to eugene was dumb, seeing him whining/ crying the whole episode was brutal. pickles i love pickles... wtf Dwight should have been killed off by negan, tired of him as well. inform carol of glenn and abraham and get shit moving.

Indifference71

Nami said:

please bring back zombies.... to devote a show to eugene was dumb, seeing him whining/ crying the whole episode was brutal. pickles i love pickles... wtf Dwight should have been killed off by negan, tired of him as well. inform carol of glenn and abraham and get shit moving.

Yeah, devoting an episode to Eugene is such a waste. They've already established the fact that he's a coward

HughFreakingDillon

rival. said:

meh.

soooooo is eugene just being his typically cowardly lion self and really pledging alliance to negan? or is he just playing his angles and lying to everyone waiting for his moment to get back at negan or get saved by rick and co.? tough to tell, eh?

and what video game was he playing?

he is gaining trust and waiting while enjoying the safety and his new digs. he will get revenge for Abraham in the long run. there's no way he's actually becoming "a saviour".

HughFreakingDillon

DewieCox said:

The battle with the saviors is more likely to be next seasons finale than this one. This season will end with the Alexandrians, Hilltop and the UpUpUps deciding to join together to fight.

I disagree. I think if they don't do something big in this season's finale, they will lose a LOT of viewers.

Indifference71

HughFreakingDillon said:

DewieCox said:

The battle with the saviors is more likely to be next seasons finale than this one. This season will end with the Alexandrians, Hilltop and the UpUpUps deciding to join together to fight.

I disagree. I think if they don't do something big in this season's finale, they will lose a LOT of viewers.

Agreed. They have lost viewers this season and will prob keep losing viewers if they keep dragging everything out so much and having ridiculous cliffhangers like last season with who Negan killed with Lucille.

DewieCox

Next week looks like a snooze fest where Richonne get it on and they look for guns for the UpUpUps. That leaves 4 episodes where lots of other big stuff happens.

I doubt they anticipated losing so many viewers or they would've done things differently. The story line for this season has been locked in since before they started losing viewers. Not like they did reshoots during the break. And think about how long they drug other stuff out. The hospital, the prison vs Gov, Herschel's farm.

At best we'll be left with a half assed cliffhanger and maybe we'll see some small battles, but Im not expecting the big throw down with the Saviors this season. Seems like prime material for its own season.

I also think if more was gonna happen, the half season wouldn't be advertised with "Rise Up".

HughFreakingDillon

DewieCox said:

Next week looks like a snooze fest where Richonne get it on and they look for guns for the UpUpUps. That leaves 4 episodes where lots of other big stuff happens.

I doubt they anticipated losing so many viewers or they would've done things differently. The story line for this season has been locked in since before they started losing viewers. Not like they did reshoots during the break. And think about how long they drug other stuff out. The hospital, the prison vs Gov, Herschel's farm.

At best we'll be left with a half assed cliffhanger and maybe we'll see some small battles, but Im not expecting the big throw down with the Saviors this season. Seems like prime material for its own season.

I also think if more was gonna happen, the half season wouldn't be advertised with "Rise Up".

people keep talking about lost viewers. is there actual numbers to support this, or is it just supposition based on show content?

Indifference71

HughFreakingDillon said:

DewieCox said:

Next week looks like a snooze fest where Richonne get it on and they look for guns for the UpUpUps. That leaves 4 episodes where lots of other big stuff happens.

I doubt they anticipated losing so many viewers or they would've done things differently. The story line for this season has been locked in since before they started losing viewers. Not like they did reshoots during the break. And think about how long they drug other stuff out. The hospital, the prison vs Gov, Herschel's farm.

At best we'll be left with a half assed cliffhanger and maybe we'll see some small battles, but Im not expecting the big throw down with the Saviors this season. Seems like prime material for its own season.

I also think if more was gonna happen, the half season wouldn't be advertised with "Rise Up".

people keep talking about lost viewers. is there actual numbers to support this, or is it just supposition based on show content?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_(TV_series)#Ratings

It peaked in season 5 with 14 million avg viewers. Season 6 was a decrease of 1 million and looks like most episodes for season 7 have been around 10-12 million viewers. It's still a massive hit for a cable show so wouldn't expect it to go away anytime soon. But hopefully the somewhat declining ratings will speed things up a bit. Hopefully there's some sort of endgame in sight.

Here's an article from after the first half of season 7 finale...

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/walking-dead-season-7-ratings-decline-1201941089/

DewieCox

I did say they were losing viewers, but I was mostly trying to say that once season 7 started and they wwre concerned with declining numbers that they're locked in for better or worse.

After watching this show for 6 1/2 seasons how can anybody be confident that they're moving along in the Negan storyline. Hell, I binge watched it before the start of season 6 and there were times it dragged. It's not a new problem for this show.

HughFreakingDillon

DewieCox said:

I did say they were losing viewers, but I was mostly trying to say that once season 7 started and they wwre concerned with declining numbers that they're locked in for better or worse.

After watching this show for 6 1/2 seasons how can anybody be confident that they're moving along in the Negan storyline. Hell, I binge watched it before the start of season 6 and there were times it dragged. It's not a new problem for this show.

it absolutely did. no question. the entire farm season was a snoozer.