Public Figures Who Won't Address The Issues
cajunkiwi
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Okay - how many people feel their blood start to boil when a public figure refuses to address something they've done, and instead tries to deflect the blame onto the person asking the question?
Sarah Palin couldn't name any newspapers she reads, and when people made fun of her for looking like a fool she blamed Katie Couric and "gotcha journalism."
Christine O'Donnell, who said she once dabbled in witchcraft and said masturbation was a sin, decided to stop giving interviews and said the media was out to make her look bad.
Anti-immigration commentator Lou Dobbs hired illegal immigrants to work in his stables, and at a public event held after the story broke the person introducing him on stage said that the story was a case of the media trying to take away the rights of Americans.
Just this past weekend, Meghan McCain criticized Christine O'Donnell and said she was making a mockery of running for office because, among other things, she'd lied about her education - and Republicans responded by criticizing McCain's physical appearance, making sexist remarks, and saying she (McCain) wasn't qualified to run for office herself (which would be relevant if she was running for office, but she's not).
While I don't have any examples off the top of my head, I'm sure there are Democrats who have been in the same boat (said stupid things and when called out for it blamed the person calling them out).
I haven't lived in America that long, so I haven't gone through that many elections and midterm elections, but does this seem like something that's getting worse as time goes on? I don't remember it being this bad during the 2000 and 2004 elections, but that may be because I wasn't following them that closely. Have politicians (and other public figures, like Lou Dobbs) always been this bad when it comes to dealing with the responses they get to the dumb things they say? I mean, if you say/do something dumb in a public setting you have nobody to blame but yourself - don't blame the people who call attention to it. Right?
Sarah Palin couldn't name any newspapers she reads, and when people made fun of her for looking like a fool she blamed Katie Couric and "gotcha journalism."
Christine O'Donnell, who said she once dabbled in witchcraft and said masturbation was a sin, decided to stop giving interviews and said the media was out to make her look bad.
Anti-immigration commentator Lou Dobbs hired illegal immigrants to work in his stables, and at a public event held after the story broke the person introducing him on stage said that the story was a case of the media trying to take away the rights of Americans.
Just this past weekend, Meghan McCain criticized Christine O'Donnell and said she was making a mockery of running for office because, among other things, she'd lied about her education - and Republicans responded by criticizing McCain's physical appearance, making sexist remarks, and saying she (McCain) wasn't qualified to run for office herself (which would be relevant if she was running for office, but she's not).
While I don't have any examples off the top of my head, I'm sure there are Democrats who have been in the same boat (said stupid things and when called out for it blamed the person calling them out).
I haven't lived in America that long, so I haven't gone through that many elections and midterm elections, but does this seem like something that's getting worse as time goes on? I don't remember it being this bad during the 2000 and 2004 elections, but that may be because I wasn't following them that closely. Have politicians (and other public figures, like Lou Dobbs) always been this bad when it comes to dealing with the responses they get to the dumb things they say? I mean, if you say/do something dumb in a public setting you have nobody to blame but yourself - don't blame the people who call attention to it. Right?
And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
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you are absolutely right. But it isn't just a public figure thing, no one wants to take responsibility for themselves and their actions in this country. Everything is someone else's fault.
Addicted to drugs, drug dealers fault
can't pay your mortgage because you fudged how much money you make, lenders fault.
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Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday” asked California Republican Senate Candidate Carly Fiorina 7 times how she’d pay for tax cuts and help close the budget deficit.
Fiorina responded by accused Wallace of asking political questions...........WTF? :shock:0 -
the original post is a good one, but frankly its naive. when has a politician EVER told the truth? You make it sound like the rarity is the politican who lies. like we can weed them out. oh this senator lies and that one doesnt. this one is truthful and this one is deceitful.
the whole system is rigged. politicans lie. all of them do. its the definition of a politician.
if you are looking for presidents and politicians to address the issues, you are gonna be waiting until the next ice age friend. i wouldnt hold your breath0 -
musicismylife78 wrote:the original post is a good one, but frankly its naive. when has a politician EVER told the truth? You make it sound like the rarity is the politican who lies. like we can weed them out. oh this senator lies and that one doesnt. this one is truthful and this one is deceitful.
the whole system is rigged. politicans lie. all of them do. its the definition of a politician.
if you are looking for presidents and politicians to address the issues, you are gonna be waiting until the next ice age friend. i wouldnt hold your breath
The problem isn't with the politicians who lie, it's with the tactic of blaming other people when they're called out for it. I usually take it as a given that a politician is lying pretty much every time he or she opens their mouth - but until recently I've never noticed them trying to blame the people calling them out for it. If I say, "Vote for me, I hate Mexicans!" and Jon Stewart takes me to task for it, there's a big difference between me replying, "I didn't say that" and replying, "The media is out to get me! This is a smear campaign!"And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.0 -
cajunkiwi wrote:Okay - how many people feel their blood start to boil when a public figure refuses to address something they've done, and instead tries to deflect the blame onto the person asking the question?
Sarah Palin couldn't name any newspapers she reads, and when people made fun of her for looking like a fool she blamed Katie Couric and "gotcha journalism."
Christine O'Donnell, who said she once dabbled in witchcraft and said masturbation was a sin, decided to stop giving interviews and said the media was out to make her look bad.
Anti-immigration commentator Lou Dobbs hired illegal immigrants to work in his stables, and at a public event held after the story broke the person introducing him on stage said that the story was a case of the media trying to take away the rights of Americans.
Just this past weekend, Meghan McCain criticized Christine O'Donnell and said she was making a mockery of running for office because, among other things, she'd lied about her education - and Republicans responded by criticizing McCain's physical appearance, making sexist remarks, and saying she (McCain) wasn't qualified to run for office herself (which would be relevant if she was running for office, but she's not).
While I don't have any examples off the top of my head, I'm sure there are Democrats who have been in the same boat (said stupid things and when called out for it blamed the person calling them out).
I haven't lived in America that long, so I haven't gone through that many elections and midterm elections, but does this seem like something that's getting worse as time goes on? I don't remember it being this bad during the 2000 and 2004 elections, but that may be because I wasn't following them that closely. Have politicians (and other public figures, like Lou Dobbs) always been this bad when it comes to dealing with the responses they get to the dumb things they say? I mean, if you say/do something dumb in a public setting you have nobody to blame but yourself - don't blame the people who call attention to it. Right?
If Christine O'Donnell would have switched around her words, and mentioned that witchcraft was a sin and that she more then dabbles in masterbation, all would have been forgiven!0 -
I think that today's media and coverage just exposes people more often then it did in the prior century when everything was delayed and controlled. If a "mis-statement" was made prior to 2000, the damage was much easier to control.
Now you have thousands of psycho bloggers going through people's pasts with fine-tooth combs and public mishaps are transmitted instantaneously around the world to our smart phones.
My point is, today's liars need to have better people skills and congeniality then the liars of yesterday.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
mikepegg44 wrote:you are absolutely right. But it isn't just a public figure thing, no one wants to take responsibility for themselves and their actions in this country. Everything is someone else's fault.
Ain't that the truth... working with the public everyday, nothing is anyone's fault anymore... Even stupid petty shit that makes no difference, it's like is impossible for most people to admit anything was their fault.My whole life
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cajunkiwi wrote:Okay - how many people feel their blood start to boil when a public figure refuses to address something they've done, and instead tries to deflect the blame onto the person asking the question?
Sarah Palin couldn't name any newspapers she reads, and when people made fun of her for looking like a fool she blamed Katie Couric and "gotcha journalism."
Christine O'Donnell, who said she once dabbled in witchcraft and said masturbation was a sin, decided to stop giving interviews and said the media was out to make her look bad.
Anti-immigration commentator Lou Dobbs hired illegal immigrants to work in his stables, and at a public event held after the story broke the person introducing him on stage said that the story was a case of the media trying to take away the rights of Americans.
Just this past weekend, Meghan McCain criticized Christine O'Donnell and said she was making a mockery of running for office because, among other things, she'd lied about her education - and Republicans responded by criticizing McCain's physical appearance, making sexist remarks, and saying she (McCain) wasn't qualified to run for office herself (which would be relevant if she was running for office, but she's not).
While I don't have any examples off the top of my head, I'm sure there are Democrats who have been in the same boat (said stupid things and when called out for it blamed the person calling them out).
I haven't lived in America that long, so I haven't gone through that many elections and midterm elections, but does this seem like something that's getting worse as time goes on? I don't remember it being this bad during the 2000 and 2004 elections, but that may be because I wasn't following them that closely. Have politicians (and other public figures, like Lou Dobbs) always been this bad when it comes to dealing with the responses they get to the dumb things they say? I mean, if you say/do something dumb in a public setting you have nobody to blame but yourself - don't blame the people who call attention to it. Right?
Sarah Palin / Katie Couric .....both very beautiful women in my opinion, I don't know which one I would rather have abuse me.
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blackredyellow wrote:mikepegg44 wrote:you are absolutely right. But it isn't just a public figure thing, no one wants to take responsibility for themselves and their actions in this country. Everything is someone else's fault.
Ain't that the truth... working with the public everyday, nothing is anyone's fault anymore... Even stupid petty shit that makes no difference, it's like is impossible for most people to admit anything was their fault.
I think it's because people are too cowardice and weak to admit anything anymore. Integrity is also out the window. So why not blame someone else? It diverts attention.0 -
when the monica lewinsky thing first came out hillary said it was a vast right wing conspiracy, not really the same but still....
and kinda similar i remember when arnold was running for governor and a woman or two said he sexually assaulted them or whatever a long time ago he said he'd comment on it after the election was over....when asked after the election he only said something like "that's old news" and wouldn't comment furtherdon't compete; coexist
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when Helen Thomas asked Obama if he could name all the countries in the Middle-East that have nuclear weapons and Obama avoided it because he didn't want to 'speculate'
Thomas claimed that knowledge of Israeli nukes is very public in DC and Obama's answer showed a lack of credibility.
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he knows. but how can he come out and outright accuse those countries of being nuclear when officially it is "unknown"? that is speculation, and if he said a country had nukes and they didn't he would have to defend those comments to the leaders of that country.
it is all about politics and maintaining relationships and alliances..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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he knows, and it shouldn't be that hard to be truthful. he could just come out and be honest about it.gimmesometruth27 wrote:he knows. but how can he come out and outright accuse those countries of being nuclear when officially it is "unknown"? that is speculation, and if he said a country had nukes and they didn't he would have to defend those comments to the leaders of that country.
it is all about politics and maintaining relationships and alliances...
if he said a country had nukes and they didn't, he wouldn't have to defend those comments to the leaders of that country. they'd just get their asses blown to pieces anyway. like Iraq. when has the US ever given a shit about mistakes.
it's so fucked up that he is protecting Israel and being all secret about the fact they have nukes and yet Iraq didn't have them and they got attacked because it was thought they did.
makes no sense at all.0 -
TriumphantAngel wrote:
he knows, and it shouldn't be that hard to be truthful. he could just come out and be honest about it.gimmesometruth27 wrote:he knows. but how can he come out and outright accuse those countries of being nuclear when officially it is "unknown"? that is speculation, and if he said a country had nukes and they didn't he would have to defend those comments to the leaders of that country.
it is all about politics and maintaining relationships and alliances...
if he said a country had nukes and they didn't, he wouldn't have to defend those comments to the leaders of that country. they'd just get their asses blown to pieces anyway. like Iraq. when has the US ever given a shit about mistakes.
it's so fucked up that he is protecting Israel and being all secret about the fact they have nukes and yet Iraq didn't have them and they got attacked because it was thought they did.
makes no sense at all.
do you really think he is going to throw israel under the bus like that???? he has not before and he will not now. wake up.
and obama never supported the iraq war before he ran for president, so he was not responsible for attacking them in 2003..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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don't tell me to wake up. i'm wide awake thanks.
i'm merely suggesting he be honest and do what's right. nothing wrong speaking out about it.0 -
he is not going to do that. what happens if he says that and then israel backs out of the peace talks because if it? he is in a no win situation. people like you will be pissed if he says nothing, while he has a whole other population that will be pissed if he does say something. politics 101....TriumphantAngel wrote:don't tell me to wake up. i'm wide awake thanks.
i'm merely suggesting he be honest and do what's right. nothing wrong speaking out about it."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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if he backs out of the FAKE peace talks that were never going to solve anything??gimmesometruth27 wrote:
he is not going to do that. what happens if he says that and then israel backs out of the peace talks because if it? he is in a no win situation. people like you will be pissed if he says nothing, while he has a whole other population that will be pissed if he does say something. politics 101....TriumphantAngel wrote:don't tell me to wake up. i'm wide awake thanks.
i'm merely suggesting he be honest and do what's right. nothing wrong speaking out about it.
uhm yeah.
right.
here's a thought,
Obama needs to grow some fucking balls. stop unconditionally supporting Israel and their rogue Government. he needs to stop simply condemning them for their actions and do something about it. stop with the billions of dollars in support and demand that they abide by International Law.
it's shouldn't be THAT hard.
as to you're people like me comment. i assume you mean people that care right?0 -
i agree he needs to stop supporting them. i have said it a hundred times.TriumphantAngel wrote:
if he backs out of the FAKE peace talks that were never going to solve anything??gimmesometruth27 wrote:
he is not going to do that. what happens if he says that and then israel backs out of the peace talks because if it? he is in a no win situation. people like you will be pissed if he says nothing, while he has a whole other population that will be pissed if he does say something. politics 101....TriumphantAngel wrote:don't tell me to wake up. i'm wide awake thanks.
i'm merely suggesting he be honest and do what's right. nothing wrong speaking out about it.
uhm yeah.
right.
here's a though,
Obama needs to grow some fucking balls. stop unconditionally supporting Israel and their rogue Government. he needs to stop simply condemning them for their actions and do something about it. stop with the billions of dollars in support and demand that they abide by International Law.
it's shouldn't be THAT hard.
maybe you should write him a nice letter and tell him that, because he is not going to do anything different than the presidents before him."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
i've written him plenty of letters.
the fact he doesn't reply doesn't mean i'll give up fighting for what i believe in and what i think is right. the rest of you can give up and do whatever the hell you want. that's up to you.
i won't give up fighting for a fair and just peace for all the people in Palestine and Israel.0
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