why isn't anyone up in arms over the $1 trillion spent on the war in Iraq?
remember we were lied to to start this war.
any tea partiers have an answer as to why this huge part of our budget is overlooked when it comes to spending cuts?
don't we spend close to that on other un-necessary thing's here in the US ? we could get mad about that also bring me a hat made of tea .
Godfather.
corporate handouts probably exceed $1 trillion, hundreds of billions i know that. thank reagan.
but this is a huge part of our budget, you can't deny that. its 20% before war....and the war spending is usually not included in that budget, its just money they come up with later. like the bailouts
I agree with you, I think that spending has been out of control for years before this war and as bad as war is is that what it takes to open eyes to the amount of money being thrown down the toilet ? my earlier post is only a few examples of where our money goes,it's spent on bullshit like that then our taxes go up to cover some the money our government pisss's away on that kind of crap.
Dozens arrested in health care fraud schemesBy Terry Frieden, CNN Justice Producer
October 13, 2010 3:55 p.m. EDT
The Justice Department indicted 73 individuals in New York and four other states for allegedly defrauding Medicare and other health care programs of an estimated $163 million.
The government said 44 defendants were indicted in New York, along with 10 in California, seven in New Mexico, six in Ohio and six in Georgia.
Indictments said the schemes included billing Medicare from phantom clinics for unnecessary medical services, or services never performed.
"The emergence of international organized crime in domestic health care fraud schemes signals a dangerous expansion that poses a serious threat to consumers as these syndicates are willing to exploit almost any program, business, or individual to earn an illegal profit," said Acting Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler.
By midday Wednesday, federal agents had taken at least 52 of the suspects into custody.
According to a multiple-agency announcement, the charges ranged from fraud and conspiracy to money laundering, identity theft and immigration fraud.
Maximum penalties upon conviction range from 10 years to life in prison.
Justice prosecutors said the defendants would be tried in the five states where they were indicted.
I don't necessarily agree with the decision to invade Iraq, though I think removing Saddam Hussein from office was ultimately a great thing. Just ask the Kurds - I'm sure they would agree. Don't make assumptions.
http://report2009.amnesty.org/en/region ... frica/iraq
The MNF and the Iraqi authorities both held thousands of detainees; most were held without charge or trial, some for up to five years. Government security forces, including prison guards, were reported to have committed torture, including rape, and unlawful killings. The authorities made extensive use of the death penalty. More than 4 million Iraqis were displaced; 2 million were refugees abroad and others were internally displaced within Iraq. The Kurdistan region remained less affected by the conflict but there were continuing reports of abuses by the security forces and violence against women.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 541123.ece
West turns blind eye as police put Saddam's torturers back to work
From James Hider in Baghdad
IRAQI security forces, set up by American and British troops, torture detainees by pulling out their fingernails, burning them with hot irons or giving them electric shocks, Iraqi officials say. Cases have also been recorded of bound prisoners being beaten to death by police.
In their haste to put police on the streets to counter the brutal insurgency, Iraqi and US authorities have enlisted men trained under Saddam Hussein’s regime and versed in torture and abuse, the officials told The Times. They said that recruits were also being drawn from the ranks of outlawed Shia militias.
http://baltimorechronicle.com/2010/100410Lendman.shtml
Many detainees are held arbitrarily, "without charge or trial, for seven years" or longer. For some, it's despite Iraqi courts ordering them released for lack of evidence, and the 2008 Amnesty Law requiring it after six or 12 months, depending on the circumstances. Yet thousands remain lawlessly imprisoned, many held incommunicado, tortured or abused without access to counsel, and for some, no family visits. Many aren't told where their relatives are held.
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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I agree with you, I think that spending has been out of control for years before this war and as bad as war is is that what it takes to open eyes to the amount of money being thrown down the toilet ? my earlier post is only a few examples of where our money goes,it's spent on bullshit like that then our taxes go up to cover some the money our government pisss's away on that kind of crap.
Godfather.
October 13, 2010 3:55 p.m. EDT
The Justice Department indicted 73 individuals in New York and four other states for allegedly defrauding Medicare and other health care programs of an estimated $163 million.
The government said 44 defendants were indicted in New York, along with 10 in California, seven in New Mexico, six in Ohio and six in Georgia.
Indictments said the schemes included billing Medicare from phantom clinics for unnecessary medical services, or services never performed.
"The emergence of international organized crime in domestic health care fraud schemes signals a dangerous expansion that poses a serious threat to consumers as these syndicates are willing to exploit almost any program, business, or individual to earn an illegal profit," said Acting Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler.
By midday Wednesday, federal agents had taken at least 52 of the suspects into custody.
According to a multiple-agency announcement, the charges ranged from fraud and conspiracy to money laundering, identity theft and immigration fraud.
Maximum penalties upon conviction range from 10 years to life in prison.
Justice prosecutors said the defendants would be tried in the five states where they were indicted.
yeah, i wonder what the kurds would say?
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset ... 2010en.pdf
"New Order, Same Abuses: Unlawful Detentions and Torture in Iraq"
http://report2009.amnesty.org/en/region ... frica/iraq
The MNF and the Iraqi authorities both held thousands of detainees; most were held without charge or trial, some for up to five years. Government security forces, including prison guards, were reported to have committed torture, including rape, and unlawful killings. The authorities made extensive use of the death penalty. More than 4 million Iraqis were displaced; 2 million were refugees abroad and others were internally displaced within Iraq. The Kurdistan region remained less affected by the conflict but there were continuing reports of abuses by the security forces and violence against women.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 541123.ece
West turns blind eye as police put Saddam's torturers back to work
From James Hider in Baghdad
IRAQI security forces, set up by American and British troops, torture detainees by pulling out their fingernails, burning them with hot irons or giving them electric shocks, Iraqi officials say. Cases have also been recorded of bound prisoners being beaten to death by police.
In their haste to put police on the streets to counter the brutal insurgency, Iraqi and US authorities have enlisted men trained under Saddam Hussein’s regime and versed in torture and abuse, the officials told The Times. They said that recruits were also being drawn from the ranks of outlawed Shia militias.
http://baltimorechronicle.com/2010/100410Lendman.shtml
Many detainees are held arbitrarily, "without charge or trial, for seven years" or longer. For some, it's despite Iraqi courts ordering them released for lack of evidence, and the 2008 Amnesty Law requiring it after six or 12 months, depending on the circumstances. Yet thousands remain lawlessly imprisoned, many held incommunicado, tortured or abused without access to counsel, and for some, no family visits. Many aren't told where their relatives are held.
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
And we build our Igloos like fuckin' bomb shelters, what can i say, we know how to keep 'em out.