Voting out ALL Incumbents

Jason P

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

Why not focus on one area where government action takes money to subsidize something terribly wrong, and try to eliminate it? Addition by subtraction. Why couldn't environmentalists agree to call themselves the (Green) Tea Party, and argue against government forcefully taking money from them to subsidize oil and ethanol instead of the same environmentalists pushing for money to have windmills built? The goal is no more special favors for any industry, and it's very black and white.

I'm working on projects for the biodiesel market right now and the plant manager for one of the largest plants in the world would prefer that the government stay the hell out and end the subsidies. The subsidies do not allow for the market to adjust and it makes the industry entirely dependent on congress (especially because the energy bill must be renewed on an annual basis). In particular, during the past year the energy bill was held hostage behind the healthcare scrum (it still hasn't passed and is unlikely to). Obama did mandate that a certain amount of biodiesel had to be utilized by the oil giants OR they can just pay for credits at 70% of the cost of buying a gallon of biodiesel. So the giants just write a check to the government instead of buying the biodiesel. And the market has stalled because no one can anticipate the next mandate or regulation that the government will hand out. Thankfully for me, the plant I'm working with has agreements with smaller distributors that allow them to still run the plant and provide a rural community with 200 jobs.

know1

Jason P wrote:

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

Why not focus on one area where government action takes money to subsidize something terribly wrong, and try to eliminate it? Addition by subtraction. Why couldn't environmentalists agree to call themselves the (Green) Tea Party, and argue against government forcefully taking money from them to subsidize oil and ethanol instead of the same environmentalists pushing for money to have windmills built? The goal is no more special favors for any industry, and it's very black and white.

I'm working on projects for the biodiesel market right now and the plant manager for one of the largest plants in the world would prefer that the government stay the hell out and end the subsidies. The subsidies do not allow for the market to adjust and it makes the industry entirely dependent on congress (especially because the energy bill must be renewed on an annual basis). In particular, during the past year the energy bill was held hostage behind the healthcare scrum (it still hasn't passed and is unlikely to). Obama did mandate that a certain amount of biodiesel had to be utilized by the oil giants OR they can just pay for credits at 70% of the cost of buying a gallon of biodiesel. So the giants just write a check to the government instead of buying the biodiesel. And the market has stalled because no one can anticipate the next mandate or regulation that the government will hand out. Thankfully for me, the plant I'm working with has agreements with smaller distributors that allow them to still run the plant and provide a rural community with 200 jobs.

Our government has gotten incredibly large and controlling...unbeknown to most of the population. This has happened at the expense of our freedoms.

cajunkiwi

Anything that gives the so-called third parties a chance in an election is fine by me. If there were more people from outside the Democratic and Republican parties who had a legitimate shot at winning, then everyone would have to work harder and clean up their act.

81

None of the above

Commy

81 wrote:

None of the above

give us something then, TO. most of us offer something

aerial

NICE to see you guys are finally understanding the Tea Party!

g under p

know1 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

Why not focus on one area where government action takes money to subsidize something terribly wrong, and try to eliminate it? Addition by subtraction. Why couldn't environmentalists agree to call themselves the (Green) Tea Party, and argue against government forcefully taking money from them to subsidize oil and ethanol instead of the same environmentalists pushing for money to have windmills built? The goal is no more special favors for any industry, and it's very black and white.

I'm working on projects for the biodiesel market right now and the plant manager for one of the largest plants in the world would prefer that the government stay the hell out and end the subsidies. The subsidies do not allow for the market to adjust and it makes the industry entirely dependent on congress (especially because the energy bill must be renewed on an annual basis). In particular, during the past year the energy bill was held hostage behind the healthcare scrum (it still hasn't passed and is unlikely to). Obama did mandate that a certain amount of biodiesel had to be utilized by the oil giants OR they can just pay for credits at 70% of the cost of buying a gallon of biodiesel. So the giants just write a check to the government instead of buying the biodiesel. And the market has stalled because no one can anticipate the next mandate or regulation that the government will hand out. Thankfully for me, the plant I'm working with has agreements with smaller distributors that allow them to still run the plant and provide a rural community with 200 jobs.

Our government has gotten incredibly large and controlling...unbeknown to most of the population. This has happened at the expense of our freedoms.

Friendly all warm and snuggly.

Peace

g under p

aerial wrote:

NICE to see you guys are finally understanding the Tea Party!

Oh they are understood alright...Tradition.

Peace

SolarWorld

Moronic idea... have you seen come of the people running against incumbents this year?