pack your bags earthlings... new planet found

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edited October 2010 in A Moving Train
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/8 ... near-earth

'Habitable' planet found near earth

US astronomers said Wednesday they have discovered an Earth-sized planet that they think might be habitable, orbiting a nearby star, and believe there could be many more planets like it in space.

The planet, found by astronomers at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and the Carnegie Institution of Washington, is orbiting in the middle of the "habitable zone" of the red dwarf star Gliese 581, which means it could have water on its surface.

The scientists determined that the planet, named Gliese 581g, has a mass three to four times that of Earth and an orbital period of just under 37 days.

Its mass indicates that it is probably a rocky planet and has enough gravity to hold on to an atmosphere, according to Steven Vogt, professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and one of the leaders of the team that discovered the planet.

If Gliese 581g has a rocky composition similar to Earth's, its diameter would be about 1.2 to 1.4 times that of the Earth, the researchers said.

The surface gravity would be about the same or slightly higher than Earth's, so that a person could easily walk upright on the planet, Vogt said.

Gliese 581g was discovered by scientists working on the Lick-Carnegie Exoplanet Survey, during 11 years of observing the red dwarf star Gliese 581, which is only 20 light years from Earth.

For astronomers, eleven years of observation is considered a short time and 20 light years, which is roughly 117.5 trillion miles, rather close. The sun is around eight and a half light minutes from Earth.

"The fact that we were able to detect this planet so quickly and so nearby tells us that planets like this must be really common," said Vogt.

The planet is tidally locked to its star, meaning that one side is always facing the star and basking in perpetual daylight, and the other is in perpetual darkness because it faces away from the star.

This would make the line between darkness and light the most habitable part of the new planet, which is known as the "terminator".

The researchers estimate that the average surface temperature of the planet would be between -31 to -12 degrees Celsius.

But actual temperatures would range from "blazing hot on the side facing the star, to freezing cold on the dark side," they said.

The findings, which will be published in the Astrophysical Journal and posted online at arXiv.org, "offer a very compelling case for a potentially habitable planet," said Vogt.

In their report, the scientists in fact announce the discovery of two new planets around Gliese 581, bringing the total number of known planets around this star to six.

Two previously detected planets around Gliese lie at the edges of the habitable zone, one on the hot side and one on the cold side of the star, and are probably not habitable.

The newly discovered planet g, however, lies right in the middle of the habitable zone.

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  • VERY cool. I also read recently scientists believe that there could be an infinite amount of universes, which means there could be an infinite amount of planets exactly like our own.

    It blows my mind. Given infinite possibilities, it's likely there are an infinite amount of planets that evolved human life.. Crazy stuff.

    Where's my spaceship? 8-)
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    that new planet doesnt spin. i need day AND night in rotation. not one or the other. forget it... im not going.
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    yeah, and even after we develop light-speed technology, it'll still take 20 years to get there. not worth it. there's gotta be a nicer, closer planet out there...
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    i wanna live on the terminator
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Haven't we screwed up our own planet enough that we should just stay here and not spread ourselves through the galaxy like the disease we are?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Haven't we screwed up our own planet enough that we should just stay here and not spread ourselves through the galaxy like the disease we are?

    no. were like the spoilt child at xmas who is surrounded by discarded presents......... what else did you get me?
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Great... another planet we can fuck up. Awesome.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    Great... another planet we can fuck up. Awesome.

    its ok cosmo... we wont ever make it. a guy will be driving the rocketship and well get lost and he wont stop and ask for directions and well end up out near the dagobah system.
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  • Cosmo wrote:
    Great... another planet we can fuck up. Awesome.

    its ok cosmo... we wont ever make it. a guy will be driving the rocketship and well get lost and he wont stop and ask for directions and well end up out near the dagobah system.

    that's my location!

    help him i won't.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cosmo wrote:
    Great... another planet we can fuck up. Awesome.

    its ok cosmo... we wont ever make it. a guy will be driving the rocketship and well get lost and he wont stop and ask for directions and well end up out near the dagobah system.


    they got good weed in dagobah :think: :thumbup:
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    I'm sending my mother in law there!!! that Suns good for her.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    norm wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Great... another planet we can fuck up. Awesome.

    its ok cosmo... we wont ever make it. a guy will be driving the rocketship and well get lost and he wont stop and ask for directions and well end up out near the dagobah system.


    they got good weed in dagobah :think: :thumbup:

    indeed they do. screws up your syntax no matter how intelligent you are.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Cosmo wrote:
    Great... another planet we can fuck up. Awesome.

    its ok cosmo... we wont ever make it. a guy will be driving the rocketship and well get lost and he wont stop and ask for directions and well end up out near the dagobah system.
    ...
    And what happens if when we get there... the beings there treat us like we would treat travelers to our planet and kill us to see how we work?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Great... another planet we can fuck up. Awesome.

    its ok cosmo... we wont ever make it. a guy will be driving the rocketship and well get lost and he wont stop and ask for directions and well end up out near the dagobah system.
    ...
    And what happens if when we get there... the beings there treat us like we would treat travelers to our planet and kill us to see how we work?


    ok then...you go first, check on that and get back to us on that. ;):mrgreen:
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    And what happens if when we get there... the beings there treat us like we would treat travelers to our planet and kill us to see how we work?

    ok then...you go first, check on that and get back to us on that. ;):mrgreen:
    ...
    I'm a-okay where in the Hell on Earth we've created here, thank you.
    I'm also wondering if the top of the food chain over there are descended from bears and we are nothing more than food to them. I ain't gonna run the risk of being the main course of their Thanksgiving dinner.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    And what happens if when we get there... the beings there treat us like we would treat travelers to our planet and kill us to see how we work?

    ok then...you go first, check on that and get back to us on that. ;):mrgreen:
    ...
    I'm a-okay where in the Hell on Earth we've created here, thank you.
    I'm also wondering if the top of the food chain over there are descended from bears and we are nothing more than food to them. I ain't gonna run the risk of being the main course of their Thanksgiving dinner.

    not sure what lifeforms could inhabit a planet that is either, and i quote,"blazing hot on the side facing the star" and "freezing cold on the dark side."
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    not sure what lifeforms could inhabit a planet that is either, and i quote,"blazing hot on the side facing the star" and "freezing cold on the dark side."
    ...
    Flying rattlesnakes that shoot laser beams from their eyes on one side... heavily armed Polar Bears with natural forming kevlar fur one the other?
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Cosmo wrote:
    Great... another planet we can fuck up. Awesome.

    its ok cosmo... we wont ever make it. a guy will be driving the rocketship and well get lost and he wont stop and ask for directions and well end up out near the dagobah system.
    :lol: so true
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    space is so cool
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    haffajappa wrote:
    space is so cool
    Very cool, indeed . . .
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Is this new planet near my favorite galaxy where I like to have some fun.

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  • MrMerkinballMrMerkinball Posts: 1,978
    With our fastest known spaceship, a trip there would take 87,000 years. In order for humans to get there, they would have to procreate about 3000 generations.

    With all that pro-creatin', that would be one funky ride!
  • ONCE DEVIDEDONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    they got good weed in dagobah :think: :thumbup:[/quote]
    its great stuff
    only drawback is it stunts your growth, turns u green and you get your sentances mixed up
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  • can someone please explain to me the point of this science? I mean, really, why are we looking for habitable planets that we can't even get to? "hey, Bob, I found a new planet!" "really? awesome! how far is it?" "only 8 million light years away!" "so, we can never get there or contact the habitants if someone is even there?" "nope!" "cool anyway!" "Yeah, and it only cost the taxpayer $500 million dollars for us to get our jollies!"

    Seriously, this is junk. As someone said above, if it would take us 3000 generations to get there, and the main purpose is a quick fix because it's "too difficult" for us to fix this planet, that makes as much sense to me as going on a trip to Africa with a stopover on Mars.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Paul David wrote:
    can someone please explain to me the point of this science? I mean, really, why are we looking for habitable planets that we can't even get to? "hey, Bob, I found a new planet!" "really? awesome! how far is it?" "only 8 million light years away!" "so, we can never get there or contact the habitants if someone is even there?" "nope!" "cool anyway!" "Yeah, and it only cost the taxpayer $500 million dollars for us to get our jollies!"

    Seriously, this is junk. As someone said above, if it would take us 3000 generations to get there, and the main purpose is a quick fix because it's "too difficult" for us to fix this planet, that makes as much sense to me as going on a trip to Africa with a stopover on Mars.


    imagine if they put all that money they use for space exploration into health care or education... or both, cause they use so much of it.
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  • that's what's always bothered me the most. mankind's egotism/stupidity won't let him focus on the real needs of his own species. "Fuck poverty! Let's go chase ET!"
    Paul David wrote:
    can someone please explain to me the point of this science? I mean, really, why are we looking for habitable planets that we can't even get to? "hey, Bob, I found a new planet!" "really? awesome! how far is it?" "only 8 million light years away!" "so, we can never get there or contact the habitants if someone is even there?" "nope!" "cool anyway!" "Yeah, and it only cost the taxpayer $500 million dollars for us to get our jollies!"

    Seriously, this is junk. As someone said above, if it would take us 3000 generations to get there, and the main purpose is a quick fix because it's "too difficult" for us to fix this planet, that makes as much sense to me as going on a trip to Africa with a stopover on Mars.


    imagine if they put all that money they use for space exploration into health care or education... or both, cause they use so much of it.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    If anyone is half-way interested in space, an easy target right now is Jupiter in the SE sky around 9 pm (by 11pm is almost due south). Jupiter is easy to spot as it is one of the brightest objects in the SE sky. With a set of binoculars (10x or better) you will be able to see up to four of Jupiter's moons circling her (last night I could spot three of them).
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    that new planet doesnt spin. i need day AND night in rotation. not one or the other. forget it... im not going.

    :lol::lol::lol:

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Paul David wrote:
    can someone please explain to me the point of this science? I mean, really, why are we looking for habitable planets that we can't even get to? "hey, Bob, I found a new planet!" "really? awesome! how far is it?" "only 8 million light years away!" "so, we can never get there or contact the habitants if someone is even there?" "nope!" "cool anyway!" "Yeah, and it only cost the taxpayer $500 million dollars for us to get our jollies!"

    Seriously, this is junk. As someone said above, if it would take us 3000 generations to get there, and the main purpose is a quick fix because it's "too difficult" for us to fix this planet, that makes as much sense to me as going on a trip to Africa with a stopover on Mars.


    imagine if they put all that money they use for space exploration into health care or education... or both, cause they use so much of it.
    Science is education. And $500M may seem like a lot, but it is a mere drop in the overall fiscal budget. This project is a extremely cheap method for mankind to probe the unknown of the universe, much cheaper then flying to the moon and as expensive as four (4) F-22 Raptors.

    You may rally against the money spent on the stimulus, defense, welfare, healthcare, etc, but please leave NASA and their meager budget alone. Thank you. :wave:
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jason P wrote:
    Paul David wrote:
    can someone please explain to me the point of this science? I mean, really, why are we looking for habitable planets that we can't even get to? "hey, Bob, I found a new planet!" "really? awesome! how far is it?" "only 8 million light years away!" "so, we can never get there or contact the habitants if someone is even there?" "nope!" "cool anyway!" "Yeah, and it only cost the taxpayer $500 million dollars for us to get our jollies!"

    Seriously, this is junk. As someone said above, if it would take us 3000 generations to get there, and the main purpose is a quick fix because it's "too difficult" for us to fix this planet, that makes as much sense to me as going on a trip to Africa with a stopover on Mars.


    imagine if they put all that money they use for space exploration into health care or education... or both, cause they use so much of it.
    Science is education. And $500M may seem like a lot, but it is a mere drop in the overall fiscal budget. This project is a extremely cheap method for mankind to probe the unknown of the universe, much cheaper then flying to the moon and as expensive as four (4) F-22 Raptors.

    You may rally against the money spent on the stimulus, defense, welfare, healthcare, etc, but please leave NASA and their meager budget alone. Thank you. :wave:

    well i agree science is education. im just questioning the probing of the unknown and never will be. in this instance whats the point of knowing theres a planet out there thats habitable(and i use that term loosely) if we cant ever inhabit it or get there. sounds like a tease to me. or is this a case of us just knowing cool shit?
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