ahmadinejad sparks mass UN walk out

Cosmo

Isn't this the same Iranian President Aheemkareemaginadad that said there were no homosexuals in Iran?

TriumphantAngel

Jason P wrote:

It seems to me that there are more then a few of my fellow pit members that would enjoy living in Iran more then America. There's nothing wrong with that, to each their own.

jlew is that you?

what a ridiculous thing to say.

anyway, feel free to actually contribute something to the thread like others here have done rather than just taking cheap shots.

cincybearcat

Would anyone defend a leader of a country claiming that another country was specifically involved in a terrorist attack on it's own people?

Oh wait...I guess so.

Seriously this is bat crazy shit.

Commy

TriumphantAngel wrote:

Jason P wrote:

It seems to me that there are more then a few of my fellow pit members that would enjoy living in Iran more then America. There's nothing wrong with that, to each their own.

jlew is that you?

what a ridiculous thing to say.

anyway, feel free to actually contribute something to the thread like others here have done rather than just taking cheap shots.

agreed. no one is defending iranian policies, they are simply presenting a more accurate view of reality.



to demonize iran at this point only serves 1 purpose: to gain public consent for a push to war, the worst possible outcome in this situation.

yosi

Yes, it is the very same homosexuality denying man. Apparently, he believes that Iran is such an "enlightened" society that there are no gay people there (which of course also assumes that the presence of homosexuals in our own society is the manifestation of some sort of perversion). But I'm sure B can explain that this was only meant as a way of criticizing Zionism, and we are all simply misunderstanding him yet again. :roll:

TriumphantAngel

cincybearcat wrote:

Would anyone defend a leader of a country claiming that another country was specifically involved in a terrorist attack on it's own people?

Oh wait...I guess so.

Seriously this is bat crazy shit.

i'm not defending.

but like i already said, at the same time i will not sit back and give this push for war any credibility.

yosi

So your opinion is that no one should voice any criticism of Iran, because in your opinion it is all just a "push for war"? No matter what Iran does, they should be immune from criticism? That seems a very selective departure from your normal stance on the importance of criticizing.

Commy

yosi wrote:

So your opinion is that no one should voice any criticism of Iran, because in your opinion it is all just a "push for war"? No matter what Iran does, they should be immune from criticism? That seems a very selective departure from your normal stance on the importance of criticizing.

what can you do about the iranian government's faults?


aside from war, NOTHING.


focus on your own government, that is something you can affect.

yosi

Would you apply the same logic to Israel? If so, I'd like to see you shut up about that issue as well. Or do you hold the two countries to entirely different standards?

TriumphantAngel

yosi wrote:

So your opinion is that no one should voice any criticism of Iran, because in your opinion it is all just a "push for war"? No matter what Iran does, they should be immune from criticism? That seems a very selective departure from your normal stance on the importance of criticizing.

i don't believe i have said anywhere at anytime that no one should voice criticism of Iran.

so i have no idea what you are taking about.

yosi

Well you seem to dismiss all criticism as a "push for war."

Commy

yosi wrote:

Would you apply the same logic to Israel? If so, I'd like to see you shut up about that issue as well. Or do you hold the two countries to entirely different standards?

my country's aid to Israel maybe the only reason they are able to continue with their atrocities.

things like cast lead would have been impossible were it not for US support.



The US is almost an exception to that rule, being an empire and all.

gimmesometruth27

yosi wrote:

Well you seem to dismiss all criticism as a "push for war."

because both the us and israel have stated they WILL go to war with iran...

the push is on, just watch a half hour of tv news...

Drowned Out

FiveB247x wrote:

I find it very ironic that all the people who call for the "truth" and similar on these matters completely throw out all the basic aspects of a fair, balanced and judicious court system applied to the issue simply in order to get their own answer, which in many respects, they already believe. Why do you think that is?? Perhaps a lack of real fact? In case you don't recall, in the actual justice system, you have to prove why someone is guilty, not actually merely provide hearsay, accusation or motive.. but actual details to show guilt and once that is proven, we say justice is done. Perhaps "truthers" just heed their own advice.

Does this not perfectly describe what the commision did? They threw out all aspects of a fair, balanced, and judicious court system in order to get answers they already believed. Unless I'm mistaken, that is what Byrnzie, myself, that demon spawn Ahmadinejad, and all other 'truthers' are looking for - an independant investigation that is not corrupted and stonewalled by the people accused by some of involvement.
Given the questions Byrnzie listed, can you actually say that you feel Al Qaeda's guilt was proven, and justice was done?....I doubt it...THAT is why people demand another investigation. Not because they didn't get the result they want, but because there was NEVER a PROPER investigation done!
The truthers should heed their own advice, because their unproven accusations result in....what? overuse of the internet? Overactive imaginations?
What did the unproven accusations against Al Qaeda result in?

Cosmo wrote:

Isn't this the same Iranian President Aheemkareemaginadad that said there were no homosexuals in Iran?

Well....they don't have juice boxes in Iran, now do they?

yosi

Juice boxes?

Dude Al Qaida claimed credit for the attack. On video. Repeatedly. They were really, really happy about it.

Great essay called "The Paranoid Style in American Politics." I think about it more and more every day. Especially when I'm on this site.

TriumphantAngel

yosi wrote:

Well you seem to dismiss all criticism as a "push for war."

all?

that's a lie.

TriumphantAngel

Drowned Out wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Isn't this the same Iranian President Aheemkareemaginadad that said there were no homosexuals in Iran?

Well....they don't have juice boxes in Iran, now do they?

lol. i got it.


haha.

catefrances

Jason P wrote:

It seems to me that there are more then a few of my fellow pit members that would enjoy living in Iran more then America. There's nothing wrong with that, to each their own.

cant beat that logic.

Drowned Out

TriumphantAngel wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Isn't this the same Iranian President Aheemkareemaginadad that said there were no homosexuals in Iran?

Well....they don't have juice boxes in Iran, now do they?

lol. i got it.


haha.

yosi wrote:

Juice boxes?

Dude Al Qaida claimed credit for the attack. On video. Repeatedly. They were really, really happy about it.

Great essay called "The Paranoid Style in American Politics." I think about it more and more every day. Especially when I'm on this site.

sigh....you avoided every point I made to focus on the one to which you knew my response. Those videos are disputed by truthers.
Anything to say about the way your statement applies equally to the only investigation undertaken regarding the attacks?

TriumphantAngel

catefrances wrote:

Jason P wrote:

It seems to me that there are more then a few of my fellow pit members that would enjoy living in Iran more then America. There's nothing wrong with that, to each their own.

cant beat that logic.

logic? maybe i'm missing something? anyone wanna fill me in? people really think some people here would prefer to live in Iran. really?