Having Obama as President has decreased crime

unsung
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edited September 2010 in A Moving Train
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/gun-owne ... -down.html

Gun ownership at an all-time high as people rushed out to stock up, now violent crime is at a 35 year low. No real surprise to me.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Crimes per 100,000 population
    Year
    Total Violent Crime
    Murder
    Rape
    Robbery

    Aggravated Assault

    1991
    758.1
    9.8
    42.3
    272.7
    433.3

    2008
    457.5
    5.4
    29.7
    145.7
    276.7

    2009
    429.4
    5.0
    28.7
    133.0
    262.8

    Trend, 2008-2009
    -6%
    -8%
    -4%
    -9%
    -5%

    Trend, 1991-2009
    -43%
    -49%
    -32%
    -51%
    -39%

    So with this formula of gun ownership and The President...if more Americans owned a gun we would virtually elinminate crime from this country. That appears to be a good thing but why do I feel there's a disaster waiting to happen with more and more guns in every American's hands.

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Taking two facts and piecing them together doesn't mean they're related.
    unsung wrote:
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/gun-ownership-up-crime-down.html

    Gun ownership at an all-time high as people rushed out to stock up, now violent crime is at a 35 year low. No real surprise to me.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,337
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Taking two facts and piecing them together doesn't mean they're related.

    Yes it does.
    I've been wearing the same belt for the last 2 years, and crime has gone down nationally.
    I've also been wearing pants for the last 3 years, and I still have the same job!!!!

    Facts are facts!!!!
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Global Temperatures have gone up since the decline of pirates worldwide. Does that mean Pirates keep the planet cool?
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    keeponrockin wrote:
    Global Temperatures have gone up since the decline of pirates worldwide. Does that mean Pirates keep the planet cool?

    Well maybe can lower temperatures but they sure made it cool 8-)
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    are there any statistics to say if death by firearms has actually decreased or increased as i couldn't see any on the link?

    seems an important stat to leave off.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    People buying guns in droves because Obama is going to outlaw them = one of the countless "boy cried wolf" things that right wing radio has drummed up that none of their followers care to call them on when it doesn't happen.

    I just can't figure out how every time we turn around, there is some immediate issue that will take away our freedoms or destroy our country etc etc etc, that never pan out, but the listeners keep falling for the next one and the next one...
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Correlation does not imply causation...
  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    Nobody can afford bullets anymore
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    UpSideDown wrote:
    Nobody can afford bullets anymore

    really...?

    anyway, I see this as a good thing...
  • acoustic guy
    acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Hey you know me, I am all for gun ownership. I own many guns, for safety and as a hobby.
    Rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it I always say.
    Think about this, you cant stop illegal guns from getting into the wrong hands really, so wouldnt you rather have one also to keep it an even playing field?
    I remember reading that in states where you are allowed to carry a hand gun like Texas, the crime numbers are much lower then others....I wonder how thrue that is.

    The only way you can have my guns is if you pry them from my cold dead hands. :P
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    acoustic guy wrote:
    The only way you can have my guns is if you pry them from my cold dead hands. :P
    ...
    I've always wondered about this phrase... doesn't it mean the cops shot and killed you because you failed to comply?
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/gun-ownership-up-crime-down.html

    Gun ownership at an all-time high as people rushed out to stock up, now violent crime is at a 35 year low. No real surprise to me.
    ...
    Facts: The rooster crows and the sun rises...
    Conclusion: Therefore, if the rooster does not crow... the sun will not rise.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Well, it may not prove that the guns have contributed to the low crime...But does this imply that more people owning guns didn't correlate to crime rising? hmmm :) If it had, I'm sure that everyone on the anti-gun side would be saying "it's the gun's fault"! Just got my CHL in the mail, btw!

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