Forgoing a pair of shoes, cigarettes, & a tooth does not enable people to afford medical care.
Besides, where does this mentality end? If we see someone eating a steak at a restaraunt - or eating out at all - does that mean s/he is taking advantage of government benefits? What other things should preclude people from receiving government benefits? Failing to use coupons at the grocery store? Buying their children birthday gifts? Going out of town? Getting their nails done? Getting haircuts? Buying Oreos? Having a computer at home? Buying a drink? Should they first have to sell their wedding rings & any valuables? If they give $5 to a homeless guy does that mean they have money to spare and therefore are milking the system?
I'd also like to point out, once again, that we really don't know these individuals we judge or what their circumstances are. As has already been said, maybe some things we think they shouldn't be able to afford were purchased before they were down on their luck, or were gifts or trades, or were on super sale or are knock-offs. We just really don't know.
I get what your saying. Do you think there should be any standards for receiving handouts?
Forgoing a pair of shoes, cigarettes, & a tooth does not enable people to afford medical care.
Besides, where does this mentality end? If we see someone eating a steak at a restaraunt - or eating out at all - does that mean s/he is taking advantage of government benefits? What other things should preclude people from receiving government benefits? Failing to use coupons at the grocery store? Buying their children birthday gifts? Going out of town? Getting their nails done? Getting haircuts? Buying Oreos? Having a computer at home? Buying a drink? Should they first have to sell their wedding rings & any valuables? If they give $5 to a homeless guy does that mean they have money to spare and therefore are milking the system?
I'd also like to point out, once again, that we really don't know these individuals we judge or what their circumstances are. As has already been said, maybe some things we think they shouldn't be able to afford were purchased before they were down on their luck, or were gifts or trades, or were on super sale or are knock-offs. We just really don't know.
I get what your saying. Do you think there should be any standards for receiving handouts?
Depends on what you mean by standards & handouts. I believe we should have universal health coverage. But I also think it's reasonable to require people to demonstrate financial need in order to receive food stamps, for instance. If you are saying you don't have enough income to afford food, you should have to demonstrate that your claim is true. But I don't think we should impose our values onto other people, judge that "if they can afford that they should be able to afford this," or assume we know the details of people's lives.
What I get out of the OP is quite different than the rest of you. Granted the Dr. was judgmental, but he assessed this lady, who's on Medicaid yet can smoke over a pack/day and have a gold tooth, expensive sneaks, etc. Taking advantage of govt benefits is nothing new, and is quite a problem. I see families milk the system all the time. There's no self accountability taught when you're approved for govt support.
that is what I actually like about medicaid. The idea that now that he government has passed this healthcare bill and because of that they will tell you how to live is a very scary notion to me. Just because she is on government assistance doesn't mean she shouldn't be able to smoke, drink, bungie jump...whatever. If the government wants to provide healthcare they should not be able to tell me how to live as well. That is the price you pay. If this doctor doesn't like the idea then he/she needs to become more involved in the political process.
Yet, they do have to meet financial income requirements. Since we know nothing about the patient, the least we actually CAN go on, is that she can't afford to buy insurance, and she POSSIBLY has Medicaid because she already has health issues, which leads one to apply for Medicaid in the first place. Being perfectly healthy does not lead one to apply for Medicaid benefits (although it's certainly possible).
Yeah, she may have had all that bling prior to getting on Medicaid...and she may have bought it all since. It's all just stupid speculation. I agree with your last sentence; if the doc cares more about his duty to simply treat, he can get more involved in the political process.
she POSSIBLY has Medicaid because she already has health issues, which leads one to apply for Medicaid in the first place. Being perfectly healthy does not lead one to apply for Medicaid benefits (although it's certainly possible).
Most adults I know of get on Medicaid not because they're unhealthy, but because they're pregnant.
she POSSIBLY has Medicaid because she already has health issues, which leads one to apply for Medicaid in the first place. Being perfectly healthy does not lead one to apply for Medicaid benefits (although it's certainly possible).
Most adults I know of get on Medicaid not because they're unhealthy, but because they're pregnant.
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I disagree. No warning needed. It needs an outright banning.
I get what your saying. Do you think there should be any standards for receiving handouts?
Turns out I was right:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/starner.asp
No surprise it comes from back-water redneck-ville Mississippi.
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Depends on what you mean by standards & handouts. I believe we should have universal health coverage. But I also think it's reasonable to require people to demonstrate financial need in order to receive food stamps, for instance. If you are saying you don't have enough income to afford food, you should have to demonstrate that your claim is true. But I don't think we should impose our values onto other people, judge that "if they can afford that they should be able to afford this," or assume we know the details of people's lives.
:roll:
What is with everyone's hatred of the south around here?? :?
Yet, they do have to meet financial income requirements. Since we know nothing about the patient, the least we actually CAN go on, is that she can't afford to buy insurance, and she POSSIBLY has Medicaid because she already has health issues, which leads one to apply for Medicaid in the first place. Being perfectly healthy does not lead one to apply for Medicaid benefits (although it's certainly possible).
Yeah, she may have had all that bling prior to getting on Medicaid...and she may have bought it all since. It's all just stupid speculation. I agree with your last sentence; if the doc cares more about his duty to simply treat, he can get more involved in the political process.
A drug test isn't a bad idea.
just terrible.
Most adults I know of get on Medicaid not because they're unhealthy, but because they're pregnant.
I demand drug testing for corporate welfare!
100% AGREE!! Totally! Allowing people to accept goverment help without it is fucked...
Help those who help themselves period.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Tell the truth, sister!
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deny medicaid to all catholics!!!
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