Homelessness-Change It

Halifax2TheMax

Just saw a post regarding homeless folks in Atlantic City. May I suggest being the force of change that you want to see? Educate yourself on the issue and try to help out, and it doesn't have to be by opening your wallet. I suggest reading Dinner at Six, Voices from the Soup Kitchen by Helen Hudson, who interviewed homeless people in and around New Haven, Ct. Her son, Tom Lane, is my next door neighbor and he has decided that in order to help out the homeless, you can order the aforementioned book from him, free of charge, as long as you promise to offer it to someone else, paying whatever they will, or not paying anything, in an effort to increase awareness and maybe raise some money. All he asks is that if you do order and pass on the book(s), or sell them, you report back to him the dollars raised and what homeless charity the money went to for tax filing purposes or what happened to the books. For more information regarding the book and his initiative, send him an email at: <!-- e --><a href="mailto:thomaselane@sbcglobal.net">thomaselane@sbcglobal.net</a><!-- e --> and tell him that George and Storm sent you.

Oh, he has sent books all over the world so don't be shy you international Jammers!

I intend to set up a table at our local farmer's market and bakery some Saturday to raise money for a homeless charity and to increase awareness of homelessness. You could to.

Peace!

PS: The book is a good read on a tough subject.

BinauralJam

In Manhatten i've been seeing middle aged men in business attire begging for hand outs, the type of guys who have been working for 30 years and all of sudden lost everything. You can just tell they don't know what there gona do.

usamamasan1

don't worry our gubment gonna take care of errbody

Cosmo

usamamasan1 wrote:

don't worry our gubment gonna take care of errbody

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That comment and that avatar fit together perfectly.
Good job.

redrock

Cosmo wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

don't worry our gubment gonna take care of errbody

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That comment and that avatar fit together perfectly.
Good job.

And so it should. So should we. It's appalling that there are homeless people, those that depend on soup kitchens, etc. in our western world. It should not be.

Cosmo

redrock wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

don't worry our gubment gonna take care of errbody

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That comment and that avatar fit together perfectly.
Good job.

And so it should. So should we. It's appalling that there are homeless people, those that depend on soup kitchens, etc. in our western world. It should not be.

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I agree. In a country where people have health problems from eating too much... and others with too little to eat... don't seem right.
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Also.. I just thought that comment was something you'd hear coming from 'Cornholio'.

WhyNotSweden

redrock wrote:

It's appalling that there are homeless people, those that depend on soup kitchens, etc. in our western world. It should not be.

Your goverment shouldnt go to war so much, all those money could be used for better health in the USA. But, it has to be both poor and rich people to make the economy to work. Like animals some one has to be on top of the chain, you just have to make the poor, less pore and the rich, less rich. To find that balance is hard.

Commy

WhynotSweden wrote:

redrock wrote:

It's appalling that there are homeless people, those that depend on soup kitchens, etc. in our western world. It should not be.

Your goverment shouldnt go to war so much, all those money could be used for better health in the USA. But, it has to be both poor and rich people to make the economy to work. Like animals some one has to be on top of the chain, you just have to make the poor, less pore and the rich, less rich. To find that balance is hard.

it takes an active citizenry, something that is non-existent in the US, not on issue's that matter.

the anti-war movement is struggling.
the anti-poverty movement is nonexistent


this while the
support "the troops" and "they tuk r jobs" movement are doing well.

redrock

Cosmo wrote:

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Also.. I just thought that comment was something you'd hear coming from 'Cornholio'.

Had to look this up:

"After consuming large amounts of sugar or caffeine, Beavis sometimes undergoes a radical personality change. He will raise his forearms in a 90-degree angle next to his chest, pull his shirt over his head, and then begin to yell or scream erratically, producing a stream of gibberish and strange noises, his eyes wide. This is an alter-ego named ‘Cornholio"

Ummm.... not too sure how I'm supposed to take this :?

TriumphantAngel

WhynotSweden wrote:

redrock wrote:

It's appalling that there are homeless people, those that depend on soup kitchens, etc. in our western world. It should not be.

Your goverment shouldnt go to war so much, all those money could be used for better health in the USA. But, it has to be both poor and rich people to make the economy to work. Like animals some one has to be on top of the chain, you just have to make the poor, less pore and the rich, less rich. To find that balance is hard.

It's a sad statement for the Country, that the surest way to be housed and fed in the US, is to be in jail.

shame on the leaders for being more concerned about world domination than about taking care of their own citizens.

redrock

WhynotSweden wrote:

Your goverment shouldnt go to war so much, all those money could be used for better health in the USA. But, it has to be both poor and rich people to make the economy to work. Like animals some one has to be on top of the chain, you just have to make the poor, less pore and the rich, less rich. To find that balance is hard.

Not my government, my all governements. Of course some countries have better strategies in place to combat homelessness but this is an issue in all the western world.

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redrock wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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Also.. I just thought that comment was something you'd hear coming from 'Cornholio'.

Had to look this up:

"After consuming large amounts of sugar or caffeine, Beavis sometimes undergoes a radical personality change. He will raise his forearms in a 90-degree angle next to his chest, pull his shirt over his head, and then begin to yell or scream erratically, producing a stream of gibberish and strange noises, his eyes wide. This is an alter-ego named ‘Cornholio"

Ummm.... not too sure how I'm supposed to take this :?

I think he was referring to usamamasan1's post and Cornholio avatar.

redrock

scb wrote:

redrock wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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Also.. I just thought that comment was something you'd hear coming from 'Cornholio'.

Had to look this up:

"After consuming large amounts of sugar or caffeine, Beavis sometimes undergoes a radical personality change. He will raise his forearms in a 90-degree angle next to his chest, pull his shirt over his head, and then begin to yell or scream erratically, producing a stream of gibberish and strange noises, his eyes wide. This is an alter-ego named ‘Cornholio"

Ummm.... not too sure how I'm supposed to take this :?

I think he was referring to usamamasan1's post and Cornholio avatar.

Phew!

fife

This a bigger issue than saying the government has to do this or the government has to do that. I can't speak for American but where i work with homeless people in Toronto and I was a part of a research project that showed the real cost of homelessness to a city and we were able to show that it would be cheaper to place people in government housing than to have them in the streets or shelters. when we went up to city worker they all told us the same thing. we know this to be true but we can't do this if we want to keep our jobs. they told us that the citizens would be upset that these "people" would be able to live in an apartment for like $150 because they refuse to work and do crack.

Commy

TriumphantAngel wrote:

It's a sad statement for the Country, that the surest way to be housed and fed in the US, is to be in jail.

shame on the leaders for being more concerned about world domination than about taking care of their own citizens.

this is a good point. the excuse "its to expensive" to feed/clothe even house homeless is just bull. the country has the resources to take care of them all, that it chooses not to do so is a sure sign our priorities are not at all where they should be.

haffajappa

Did you know that a lot of homeless people where I come from (and trust me, in Vancouver its a big problem) are a result of the provincial government shutting down a good portion of our biggest mental hospital, putting those who had no where to go on the street?

Not saying that all of homeless people aren't drug abusers/addicts, but maybe there is more to the picture than you think.

Mikeack

Unfortunately most of mankind are not advanced enough mentally to think others deserve to be saved! Ironically in poorer countries the divide is not so marked or people not so callous as to leave others dying of total hunger (unless in war zone).

arthurdent

fife wrote:

This a bigger issue than saying the government has to do this or the government has to do that..

agreed. If this was a problem that could be "solved" simply by throwing money at it, there would be no homeless. But it's a much broader problem than just resources. It's a societal and cultural problem, too. And at the very heart of it is our humanity itself. The need to "have" is basically hard-wired into our genetics.

Mikeack

arthurdent wrote:

fife wrote:

This a bigger issue than saying the government has to do this or the government has to do that..

agreed. If this was a problem that could be "solved" simply by throwing money at it, there would be no homeless. But it's a much broader problem than just resources. It's a societal and cultural problem, too. And at the very heart of it is our humanity itself. The need to "have" is basically hard-wired into our genetics.

We used to "share" because we belonged to a tribe which could not survive unless everyone pitching in. Western society has be atomised for the benefit of the ruling party/ government, as we are easy to control if we don't know our neighbour. Not helping another man is all part of the scare mongering to stop people forming strong social groups. Helping others still exists (and without religion) in many countries but not really in the West.