The Smashing Pumpkins-Teargarden By Kaleidyscope updates

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Teargarden by Kaleidyscope is the eighth studio album by American alternative rock band The Smashing Pumpkins, released as free MP3 downloads, and as a series of physical limited-edition EPs, culminating in a single box set release. The album will have 44 new songs, released one at a time, and will also be issued as eleven four-song EPs.

Announced by the frontman Billy Corgan on September 16, 2009, the concept album, "a new kind of album [...] you can hear as it's being made," will be released over the Internet, from the band's official website for free, one song at a time. Each time a set of four tracks has been made available for download, it will then be made available for purchase in two formats: a physical limited edition EP on CD and digital format—beginning with Teargarden by Kaleidyscope Vol. 1: Songs for a Sailor, released on May 25, 2010. All eleven records will culminate as a box set with entirely new packaging and exclusive content.

All of the songs will be released free as 192-kbps, DRM-free MP3 files, available from direct links on the band's website.Meanwhile, the songs will be released as eleven four-song limited edition CD EP box sets. The first physical EP, Teargarden by Kaleidyscope Vol. 1: Songs for a Sailor, consisting of a wooden box with the 4-song CD, a 7" vinyl record with one additional song, and a hand-carved stone obelisk, was released May 25 by Rocket Science Music.Finally, the complete forty-four song album will be released as a complete box set, accompanied by an art film and a making-of documentary entitled The Making of Teargarden.Corgan is also considering a single-CD compilation of the best of the forty-four tracks.

Release history:

Volume 1: Songs For A Sailor
1) December 8/09 - A Song For A Son
2) January 18/10 - Widow Wake My Mind
3) March 2/10 - A Stitch In Time
4) April 16/10 - Astral Planes

Physical EP release date: May 25/10. Includes 7" vinyl of one song: "Teargarden Theme"

Volume 2:The Solstice Bare
1) July 6/10 - Freak
2) September 14/10 - Spangled
3) October 6/10 (I think) - The Fellowship
4) November 24/10- Tom Tom

Physical EP release date: November 23/10, includes b-side Cottonwood Symphony.

Volume 3: ???
1) March 18/11 - Lightning Strikes
2) May 4/11 - Owata
3)
4)

Oceania release date is now November 1/11. **EDIT** New release date is June 2012

A tentative track list has been posted via Corgan's Twitter account. Song titles and track order are "subject to change".

"Pale Horse"
"Panopticon"
"The Chimera"
"Four Winds Chime"
"Glissandra"
"Inkless"
"My Love is Winter"
"The Celestials" (formerly titled "Special K" & "Helios")
"Pinwheels"
"Oceania"
"Violet Rays"
"Quasar/Stellar Polaris/The People Mover"
"Pretty Boy"

The final track list has been posted by William himself. It goes as follows:

"Quasar"
"Panopticon"
"The Celestials"
"Violet Rays"
"My Love Is Winter"
"One Diamond, One Heart"
"Pinwheels"
"Oceania"
"Pale Horse"
"The Chimera"
"Glissandra"
"Inkless"
"Wildflower"

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... z1tJ75g7DL

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I'll be updating this whether anyone cares or not!

HeavyHands

*cricket* *cricket*

Hugh Freaking Dillon

HeavyHands wrote:

*cricket* *cricket*

HeavyHands

Thanks Paul for bumping this thread. It reminded me to go post in the "Bands you've soured on" thread.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I have to admit myself, as an avid SP fan, that the last few free tunes from this album haven't been to my liking. Spangled is my least favourite so far.

I was super pumped when he released the GLOW 2 song single. Both those songs kicked serious ass. I even liked the American Gothic EP. But this stuff, aside from Astral Planes, is not that good so far.

HeavyHands wrote:

Thanks Paul for bumping this thread. It reminded me to go post in the "Bands you've soured on" thread.

Bushleaguer28

I thought Song for A Son was great. Since then . . . meh

justam

Paul David wrote:

I'll be updating this whether anyone cares or not!

I care.

intodeep

I actually downloaded spangled last night

I've heard worse. It seems okay. I'll keep listening. Song for a Son was really cool and I liked Freak. I hope some other good ones will come of this.

justam

I downloaded it at lunchtime while I was at work the other day but I forgot to listen to it when I got home. Maybe tonight I'll remember to listen to it? :? :geek:

craigb

I like "Song For a Son" and "A Stitch in Time" but the others, to me, are kind of...bleh.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

the new song The Fellowship is, well, um, not my cup of tea. It starts out like something you'd hear in a club.

EESH.

1STmammal2wearPants

everyone will be dead by the time the album is finished.....

didn't bands used to release a couple of albums a year?

Drowned Out

Which Billy are we getting on these new songs? Starry eyed dreamer Billy or the rocker Billy? I only like the latter, really.
Let me know if any of these songs are anywhere near as good as United States.
haven't been crazy about much of the 'new' SP stuff, but that song kicks ass.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

unfortunately, so far, the former. My fave is Superchrist. What a fucking awesome song that is. United States kills as well.

Drowned Out wrote:

Which Billy are we getting on these new songs? Starry eyed dreamer Billy or the rocker Billy? I only like the latter, really.
Let me know if any of these songs are anywhere near as good as United States.
haven't been crazy about much of the 'new' SP stuff, but that song kicks ass.

guypjfreak

ah soz before i get told i just put the same flipping thing up good init :oops: :oops:

g under p

I hope I can get my hands on this album...

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Hugh Freaking Dillon

what is that?

g under p wrote:

I hope I can get my hands on this album...

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goldrush

Paul David wrote:

Release history:

Volume 1: Songs For A Sailor
1) December 8/09 - A Song For A Son
2) January 18/10 - Widow Wake My Mind
3) March 2/10 - A Stitch In Time
4) April 16/10 - Astral Planes

Physical EP release date: May 25/10.

Volume 2:The Solstice Bare
1) July 6/10 - Freak
2) September 14/10 - Spangled
3) October 6/10 (I think) - The Fellowship
4) TBA

Where do you think "Teargarden Theme" from the first 7" fits on 'Songs For A Sailor'? As song 0 or as song 5?

I really liked Song For A Son but the rest is ok at best. I'll probably end up getting all of the songs though, as much out of curiosity as hope that we get something like the old Billy back.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I don't think the theme released on the 7" technically counts towards the 44 song total. I also hope to hear more Superchrist/G.L.O.W. type stuff.

goldrush wrote:

Paul David wrote:

Release history:

Volume 1: Songs For A Sailor
1) December 8/09 - A Song For A Son
2) January 18/10 - Widow Wake My Mind
3) March 2/10 - A Stitch In Time
4) April 16/10 - Astral Planes

Physical EP release date: May 25/10.

Volume 2:The Solstice Bare
1) July 6/10 - Freak
2) September 14/10 - Spangled
3) October 6/10 (I think) - The Fellowship
4) TBA

Where do you think "Teargarden Theme" from the first 7" fits on 'Songs For A Sailor'? As song 0 or as song 5?

I really liked Song For A Son but the rest is ok at best. I'll probably end up getting all of the songs though, as much out of curiosity as hope that we get something like the old Billy back.

Kilgore_Trout

Bushleaguer28 wrote:

I thought Song for A Son was great. Since then . . . meh

same

not even a fan of the whole one song at a time concept... how do you go from sprawling ALBUMS like mellon collie and siamese dream to this single-centric nonsense??

great for impatient fan boys... terrible for people that still believe in the sanctity of the album as a whole body of work

and without that kind of focus i think billy is floundering a bit

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I would say in the face of the obliteration of the business model of the music industry we've known for decades, he's actually a visionary. he doesn't care about money, he just wants his music to be heard. most people hear one single on the radio and buy the one single off iTunes and dismiss the rest of the album. it's a singles market now. and he's giving them away for free in hopes that people who would normally not bother will give it a listen and maybe come to a show. I say he's right up there with Radiohead and Trent Reznor with running with the evolution of the industry and coming up with new ways to get your music heard.

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

Bushleaguer28 wrote:

I thought Song for A Son was great. Since then . . . meh

same

not even a fan of the whole one song at a time concept... how do you go from sprawling ALBUMS like mellon collie and siamese dream to this single-centric nonsense??

great for impatient fan boys... terrible for people that still believe in the sanctity of the album as a whole body of work

and without that kind of focus i think billy is floundering a bit

Kilgore_Trout

Paul David wrote:

I would say in the face of the obliteration of the business model of the music industry we've known for decades, he's actually a visionary. he doesn't care about money, he just wants his music to be heard. most people hear one single on the radio and buy the one single off iTunes and dismiss the rest of the album. it's a singles market now. and he's giving them away for free in hopes that people who would normally not bother will give it a listen and maybe come to a show. I say he's right up there with Radiohead and Trent Reznor with running with the evolution of the industry and coming up with new ways to get your music heard.

definitely wouldn't put him in the same category as NIN and radiohead

i havent really heard any positive buzz surrounding teargarden... or any buzz at all... theres too much time between singles... the songs are pretty disappointing... and all over the place thematically...

its just got kindof a defeated attitude to it IMO... whereas NIN and radiohead genuinely seemed to be starting something new... maybe its just billy's attitude that makes it seem whiney... "no ones buying music anymore... shame on my fans... maybe my musics not worth buying... BOO HOO"

Kilgore_Trout

also... BULLSHIT to the singles mentality

legitimate music fans are still interested in complete albums

lets stop pandering to the itunes generation and mentality... thats more of a pop music thing anyway

Hugh Freaking Dillon

it USED to be. the legitimate fan is slowly becoming extinct. why not put him in the same category as NIN or RH? He's trying something compltely different, very risky, etc. Maybe you don't like the music (I'm not a huge fan of it so far either), but you have to admit, it's quite creative.

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

also... BULLSHIT to the singles mentality

legitimate music fans are still interested in complete albums

lets stop pandering to the itunes generation and mentality... thats more of a pop music thing anyway

Hugh Freaking Dillon

that's just it. people dismiss him because they don't like his personality. if Trent did it this way he'd be a fucking genius. BC does it and he's a whiny bitch.

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

Paul David wrote:

I would say in the face of the obliteration of the business model of the music industry we've known for decades, he's actually a visionary. he doesn't care about money, he just wants his music to be heard. most people hear one single on the radio and buy the one single off iTunes and dismiss the rest of the album. it's a singles market now. and he's giving them away for free in hopes that people who would normally not bother will give it a listen and maybe come to a show. I say he's right up there with Radiohead and Trent Reznor with running with the evolution of the industry and coming up with new ways to get your music heard.

definitely wouldn't put him in the same category as NIN and radiohead

i havent really heard any positive buzz surrounding teargarden... or any buzz at all... theres too much time between singles... the songs are pretty disappointing... and all over the place thematically...

its just got kindof a defeated attitude to it IMO... whereas NIN and radiohead genuinely seemed to be starting something new... maybe its just billy's attitude that makes it seem whiney... "no ones buying music anymore... shame on my fans... maybe my musics not worth buying... BOO HOO"

2-feign-reluctance

Paul David wrote:

that's just it. people dismiss him because they don't like his personality. if Trent did it this way he'd be a fucking genius. BC does it and he's a whiny bitch.

Kilgore_Trout wrote:

Paul David wrote:

I would say in the face of the obliteration of the business model of the music industry we've known for decades, he's actually a visionary. he doesn't care about money, he just wants his music to be heard. most people hear one single on the radio and buy the one single off iTunes and dismiss the rest of the album. it's a singles market now. and he's giving them away for free in hopes that people who would normally not bother will give it a listen and maybe come to a show. I say he's right up there with Radiohead and Trent Reznor with running with the evolution of the industry and coming up with new ways to get your music heard.

definitely wouldn't put him in the same category as NIN and radiohead

i havent really heard any positive buzz surrounding teargarden... or any buzz at all... theres too much time between singles... the songs are pretty disappointing... and all over the place thematically...

its just got kindof a defeated attitude to it IMO... whereas NIN and radiohead genuinely seemed to be starting something new... maybe its just billy's attitude that makes it seem whiney... "no ones buying music anymore... shame on my fans... maybe my musics not worth buying... BOO HOO"

I agree with both of your points. BC is flesh and blood and as imperfect as anybody, and as is the business he's navigating. I am thankful that one of my favorite artists is still doing music, even if I have to wait through whatever.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

update:

THE SMASHING PUMPKINS will release "Teargarden By Kaleidyscope Vol. II: The Solstice Bare" on November 23 via Martha's Music/Rocket Science Ventures. This physical-only four-song EP is a limited-edition, beautifully packaged CD and deluxe 12-inch vinyl picture disc with the four songs — "The Fellowship", "Freak", "Tom Tom" and "Spangled" as well as an unreleased B-side track, "Cottonwood Symphony". The lid covering the 12-inch box is a metallic/foil wallpaper motif, with a 1970s design by The Flavor Paper Co. As with the band's EP "Teargarden By Kaleidyscope Vol. 1: Songs For A Sailor", which was released in May of this year, quantities are limited worldwide.

"Teargarden By Kaleidyscope Vol. II: The Solstice Bare" marks the second EP to emerge from the band's in-progress 44-song project "Teargarden By Kaleidyscope", from which songs are being released online, one at a time for free (with four-song physical EPs being issued along the way). Thus far, two singles have been released from "Vol. II: The Solstice Bare". The first single, "Freak", is quickly ascending the U.S. Alternative radio charts. With a cumulative audience of over 20 million, "Freak" is receiving national airplay at the biggest Alternative rock stations in the country. And the second release, "Spangled" — described by mainman Billy Corgan quite simply as "just a pretty song" — is also earning critical attention.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

just ordered The Solstice Bare through my local indie shop. can't wait!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

anyone else get the new second volume? I really dig it, and the bonus track on the record is good.

prytocorduroy

my interest in the pumpkins has severely declined over the years. i still hang on in vain because of the potential that was present over a decade ago.